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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      if .180 is just now an AP, why would you be doing a dns query to it?

      ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.180#53(192.168.1.180)

      So are you having issues with any of the other forwards?  I can tell from looking at the rules that your understanding of network protocols is lacking.  Telnet for example is not a UDP protocol, nor is http or https, etc.  But you have your forwards and rules listed for both tcp and udp.

      For example does 22 ssh work from outside your network?  If you PM my your domain I would be happy to look into if dns works for it or not, where its pointing, etc.

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        eiger3970
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        I didn't do a DNS query to the old router 192.168.1.180 on purpose.
        I simply ssh'ed into the webserver and ran the dig command.
        I guess the webserver is still using a default gateway of 192.168.1.180?

        Maybe my port forwards aren't right? Should I have the IP address in Destination IP in the port forwards?

        Thank you for the reply.
        LAN devices cannot SSH pfSense.

        I have two NATs and it's confusing.
        Cable modem WAN IP from ISP xxx.xxx.xx.xx.
        Cable modem WAN IP 192.168.0.2.
        Cable modem LAN IP 192.168.0.50.
        pfSense WAN DHCP 192.168.0.2.
        pfSense LAN IP 192.168.1.155.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          Dude lets schedule a time for me to teamviewer in again.

          And you got some typo here - cuse how does your cable modem have the same wan IP as pfsense?

          Cable modem WAN IP 192.168.0.2.
          Cable modem LAN IP 192.168.0.50.
          pfSense WAN DHCP 192.168.0.2.

          Did you TURN off all the other forwards you had setup in your cable gateway?  Next step is to yes double check your forwards, but need to verify that traffic actually gets to pfsense.  Simple enough to do a sniff and send some traffic and verify that pfsense gets it.

          Now we need to get your setup correct so you can forward stuff sure - but I highly suggest you Don't run your own DNS!!!  And that your register let you point both your name servers to the same IP is beyond me!

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            eiger3970
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            Maybe I should have written:
            Cable modem DMZ IP 192.168.0.2.

            Yes, I turned off all the other forwards in the cable modem (there was only one to 192.168.0.2).

            All port forwards in pfSense are the same as my old router.

            I am now working out the sniffing which I haven't used on pfSense before.
            pfSense 2.1 > Diagnostics > Packet Capture, shows packets

            
            15:32:05.957029 IP 80.73.4.1.11974 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:05.990893 IP 80.73.4.1.20446 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:05.994305 IP 80.73.4.1.16531 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.020875 IP 192.168.0.2 > 192.168.0.50: ICMP echo request, id 60499, seq 57094, length 44
            15:32:06.022187 IP 192.168.0.50 > 192.168.0.2: ICMP echo reply, id 60499, seq 57094, length 44
            15:32:06.035289 IP 192.168.0.2.28288 > 8.8.8.8.53: UDP, length 46
            15:32:06.208647 IP 8.8.8.8.53 > 192.168.0.2.28288: UDP, length 76
            15:32:06.211065 IP 74.125.224.63.443 > 192.168.0.2.44342: tcp 65
            15:32:06.212140 IP 74.125.224.63.443 > 192.168.0.2.44342: tcp 45
            15:32:06.212276 IP 192.168.0.2.44342 > 74.125.224.63.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.212482 IP 192.168.0.2.44342 > 74.125.224.63.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.212520 IP 74.125.224.63.443 > 192.168.0.2.44342: tcp 0
            15:32:06.212575 IP 192.168.0.2.44342 > 74.125.224.63.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.340727 IP 74.125.189.16.51332 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 37
            15:32:06.378925 IP 74.125.224.63.443 > 192.168.0.2.44342: tcp 0
            15:32:06.685704 IP 80.73.4.1.9241 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.713699 IP 80.73.4.1.14926 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.716480 IP 80.73.4.1.47377 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.719723 IP 80.73.4.1.62501 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.742865 IP 80.73.4.1.38217 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.745647 IP 80.73.4.1.50471 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:06.801138 IP 192.168.0.2.50950 > 74.125.129.84.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.857137 IP 192.168.0.2.49948 > 74.125.224.89.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.952081 IP 74.125.239.14.443 > 192.168.0.2.42534: tcp 65
            15:32:06.952411 IP 74.125.239.14.443 > 192.168.0.2.42534: tcp 45
            15:32:06.952612 IP 192.168.0.2.42534 > 74.125.239.14.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.952732 IP 74.125.239.14.443 > 192.168.0.2.42534: tcp 0
            15:32:06.952848 IP 192.168.0.2.42534 > 74.125.239.14.443: tcp 0
            15:32:06.997880 IP 74.125.129.84.443 > 192.168.0.2.50950: tcp 0
            15:32:07.020887 IP 192.168.0.2 > 192.168.0.50: ICMP echo request, id 60499, seq 57350, length 44
            15:32:07.022216 IP 192.168.0.50 > 192.168.0.2: ICMP echo reply, id 60499, seq 57350, length 44
            15:32:07.022828 IP 74.125.224.89.443 > 192.168.0.2.49948: tcp 0
            15:32:07.124205 IP 74.125.239.14.443 > 192.168.0.2.42534: tcp 0
            15:32:08.020887 IP 192.168.0.2 > 192.168.0.50: ICMP echo request, id 60499, seq 57606, length 44
            15:32:08.022235 IP 192.168.0.50 > 192.168.0.2: ICMP echo reply, id 60499, seq 57606, length 44
            15:32:08.222384 IP 80.73.4.1.63144 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:08.248429 IP 80.73.4.1.25708 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:08.251729 IP 80.73.4.1.25328 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:08.256460 IP 80.73.4.1.21083 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:08.259361 IP 80.73.4.1.52333 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:08.281641 IP 80.73.4.1.63732 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:09.020886 IP 192.168.0.2 > 192.168.0.50: ICMP echo request, id 60499, seq 57862, length 44
            15:32:09.022223 IP 192.168.0.50 > 192.168.0.2: ICMP echo reply, id 60499, seq 57862, length 44
            15:32:09.069953 IP 192.168.0.2.51754 > 117.20.45.131.443: tcp 34
            15:32:09.321877 IP 117.20.45.131.443 > 192.168.0.2.51754: tcp 34
            15:32:09.322050 IP 192.168.0.2.51754 > 117.20.45.131.443: tcp 0
            15:32:09.450342 IP 74.125.239.31.443 > 192.168.0.2.36462: tcp 65
            15:32:09.453065 IP 74.125.239.31.443 > 192.168.0.2.36462: tcp 45
            15:32:09.453207 IP 192.168.0.2.36462 > 74.125.239.31.443: tcp 0
            15:32:09.453418 IP 192.168.0.2.36462 > 74.125.239.31.443: tcp 0
            15:32:09.453450 IP 74.125.239.31.443 > 192.168.0.2.36462: tcp 0
            15:32:09.453503 IP 192.168.0.2.36462 > 74.125.239.31.443: tcp 0
            15:32:09.618327 IP 74.125.239.31.443 > 192.168.0.2.36462: tcp 0
            15:32:09.709451 IP 80.73.4.1.39502 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:09.714635 IP 80.73.4.1.54104 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:09.731944 IP 80.73.4.1.33951 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:09.740454 IP 80.73.4.1.11774 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:09.759855 IP 80.73.4.1.14301 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            15:32:09.762640 IP 80.73.4.1.34165 > 192.168.0.2.53: UDP, length 48
            
            

            I checked my website and the DNS still isn't found when going via pfSense. Works when old router is used, so you said pfSense won't stop DNS in my settings, so maybe the website needs some settings adjusted.

            The TeamViewer ID is the same as yesterday.
            The TeamViewer password is: 2046 today.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              "so maybe the website needs some settings adjusted."

              No it would not be your website - but yes the box/vm it runs on.  What is the gateway of that machine..  From our session the other day before I had to run to work.  It was clear that pfsense was forwarding traffic to the IP you say is your dns .163 - but there were no answers from that machine.

              And from the vm I was on, I could not query that local IP for dns..  But since I could ping it??  Not sure if was pinging a NAT or not.. Since the VM was on a 10.x address and your dns is on 192.168.1 address

              As I asked you in the chat from the last tv session - show me a dns query from something on your network that can talk to your nameserver. Cuz pfsense is clearly forwarding the traffic too it.  But there were no answers from it.

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                eiger3970
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                So, I disconnected the Switch and connected pfSense LAN direct to the server.
                I used another Internet connection to try to bring up the website (default gateway 192.168.1.180 to old router settings) and nothing. The VoIP phone (default gateway 192.168.1.155 to pfSense LAN) also on the server didn't work.

                I connected pfSense LAN back into the Switch and the server's cable from the switch back into the server and my LAN was able to ping it and the VoIP phone (default gateway 192.168.1.155 to pfSense LAN) worked, but website (default gateway 192.168.1.180 to old router settings) still won't show via pfSense.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Dude I have been busy with RL last view days – this is NOT freaking rocket science.. When I was on your system your nameser, what you keep calling virtualmin was NOT answering a query from your own local network.. So nothing that we do on pfsense is going to fix that.

                  virtualmin is just some freaking software to help host websites for clients..  It dos NOT provide dns - your underlaying dns software would do that - I would assume BIND if running on linux

                  http://www.virtualmin.com/
                  Install your Operating System

                  Start with a freshly installed, Grade A supported Operating System on your server or VPS. CentOS and Ubuntu LTS are popular OS's for hosting..

                  So lets forget that, lets forget using it to toubleshoot basic network and applications.  Does your your OS your running virtualmin on point to pfsense to for a gateway for starters?  Is Bind Running for another - where is a query from a box on the 192.168 local network of yours doing a query to your nameserver??

                  Also - I am more than happy to help..  But give me something on the actual network your nameserver is on - not some vm behind a NAT on some 10.x network.

                  Lets schedule a time tmrw maybe?  I am home all day and happy to teamviewer in and get this working..  But needs some basics to work.. So whatever OS we are going to use for TV - the mouse has to work.. Lets not do a vm running on a vm, running on some other vm software under a VM ;)

                  Do you not have a hard machine on the same network as your pfsense lan, and your nameserver - There should be no problem with it being linux based – but I think the problem is the nested vms I believe you were using.  And whatever OS your virtualmin is runing on we are going to need access to that - be it ssh, be it remote desktop, but it another TV session - but I am not going to troubleshoot virtualmin in this situation since it has NOTHING to do with the actual problem,.

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                    eiger3970
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                    Hi, yes, CentOS Linux 6.4 is using BIND.

                    I checked CentOS and the network configuration is:
                    Address: 192.168.1.163.
                    Netmask: 255.255.255.0.
                    Gateway: 192.168.1.155.
                    DNS: 192.168.180.

                    I changed the DNS to 8.8.8.8.

                    So yes, CentOS is pointing automatically to pfSense's LAN 192.168.1.155.

                    Happy for some online work. I have an updated TV, so that might help with the mouse click problem, which was on a real machine. (only the 2nd time I went to  a VM to try and fix the mouse click problem, which it did (but caused the network issue on 10.x.x.x)).

                    I'm online in about 30 minutes.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      So why would a dns server running bind not point to itself for dns?  Is bind not allow recursive?  Why would you not point it to pfsense if that is the case - how are you going to resolve your on local domain pointing to 8.8.8.8?

                      So can you query your bind server and resolve your domain now?  Because I couldn't last time I was on your network.  So lets see your query - because if that works then it will work from the outside since pfsense port forwards are setup, and we saw the traffic being sent to your .163 address via the sniff on pfsense lan remember.

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                        eiger3970
                        last edited by

                        I'm getting a bit confused with all the settings now with pfSense router and Proxmox server with Virtualmin (and Virtualmin running off CentOS (CentOS then having its own DNS settings).

                        So I changed the CentOS DNS from 192.168.1.180 to 8.8.8.8 and now to 192.168.1.155.

                        Website still not showing.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          ARGGH dude what that box uses for dns has NOTHING to do with your issue.

                          Your running BIND as you stated, this hosts up your domain.tld, this is not answering a simple query from computer on the same network as it.

                          Say 192.168.1.162 – so how does pfsense have anything to do with it?

                          So my local domain is local.lan -- if I ask my dns server for a simple A record, lets call it my printer I call brother.local.lan

                          C:>nslookup                       
                          Default Server:  pfsense.local.lan 
                          Address:  192.168.1.253

                          brother.local.lan               
                          Server:  pfsense.local.lan         
                          Address:  192.168.1.253

                          Name:    brother.local.lan         
                          Address:  192.168.2.50

                          See how I get a response..  So on your network.. Do a simple nslookup for a record that should be there say www.yourdomain.tld

                          Do you get a response??  If NOT then nothing you do on pfsense or the rest of your network is going to fix that.. That is a problem with BIND running on your host, is it even running?  Have you looked in its log?  Does this centos box have a local host firewall? etc.. etc..

                          You need to fix that before we have to worry about people on the internet being able to resolve www.yourdomain.tld.

                          See attached - I am on my workstation on the 192.168.1.0/24 network, my dns (pfsense in this case) has a record for all my local devices in the local.lan domain.  If I query it for a record - it answers.  Lets see this from your workstation doing a query to your .163 server running bind.  You can change the host you query via server command in nslookup.  So make sure you change server to your .163 address and do a query for records you created in yourdomain

                          Let us see these queries!!  Then if not working from the internet I will be happy to TV in again and take a look at your forwards.  But they were working last time I was in.

                          If your using dig, you can do same sort of command with @serverIP fqdn

                          C:>dig @4.2.2.2 www.pfsense.org

                          ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-W1 <<>> @4.2.2.2 www.pfsense.org                   
                          ; (1 server found)                                                   
                          ;; global options: +cmd                                             
                          ;; Got answer:                                                       
                          ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56986           
                          ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

                          ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:                                               
                          ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096                               
                          ;; QUESTION SECTION:                                                 
                          ;www.pfsense.org.              IN      A

                          ;; ANSWER SECTION:                                                   
                          www.pfsense.org.        1800    IN      A      192.207.126.26

                          ;; Query time: 221 msec                                             
                          ;; SERVER: 4.2.2.2#53(4.2.2.2)                                       
                          ;; WHEN: Wed Feb 26 07:54:13 Central Standard Time 2014             
                          ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 60

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                            eiger3970
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                            Yes, I have checked that the BIND server is running.

                            Here are the results:

                            
                            192.168.1.120 > Terminal > nslookup www.domain.tld
                            Server:		8.8.8.8
                            Address:	8.8.8.8#53
                            ** server can't find www.domain.tld: SERVFAIL
                            
                            192.168.1.120 > Terminal > dig www.domain.tld
                            ; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-rpz2+rl.13214.22-P2-Ubuntu-1:9.9.3.dfsg.P2-4ubuntu1.1 <<>> www.domain.tld
                            ;; global options: +cmd
                            ;; Got answer:
                            ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 63678
                            ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                            
                            ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                            ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512
                            ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                            ;www.domain.tld.		IN	A
                            
                            ;; Query time: 3177 msec
                            ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
                            ;; WHEN: Sat Mar 01 15:37:10 EST 2014
                            ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 48
                            
                            192.168.1.163 > Terminal > nslookup www.sk8parks.org.au
                            Server:		192.168.1.155
                            Address:	192.168.1.155#53
                            ** server can't find www.domain.tld: NXDOMAIN
                            
                            192.168.1.163 > Terminal > dig www.domain.tld
                            ; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.17.rc1.el6_4.6 <<>> www.domain.tld
                            ;; global options: +cmd
                            ;; Got answer:
                            ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 52297
                            ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
                            
                            ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                            ;www.domain.tld.		IN	A
                            
                            ;; Query time: 3192 msec
                            ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.155#53(192.168.1.155)
                            ;; WHEN: Sat Mar  1 15:41:56 2014
                            ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 37
                            
                            
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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              ARRRGGHHHH!!!!!

                              Query your freaking bind server and does it return an answer??

                              How hard is that to understanding – I have stated like a million times already.  You query google and pfsense..  WTF?? From the DNS box itself even??

                              Neither of those are going to work - because your BIND server is Not Answering!!

                              dig @192.168.1.163 www.sk8parks.org.au

                              or nslookup

                              server 192.168.1.163
                              www.sk8parks.org.au

                              If your BIND server does not respond, since that is where you point to for this sk8parks.org.au then no other dns server on the planet is going to resolve sk8parks.org.au..  And that has nothing to do with a port forwarding or pfsense.

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                                eiger3970
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                                Thank you for the clarification.
                                I think the results are showing that from my computer 192.168.1.120, I can connect to BIND.

                                
                                192.168.1.120 ~ $ dig @192.168.1.163 www.domain.tld
                                
                                ; <<>> DiG 9.9.3-rpz2+rl.13214.22-P2-Ubuntu-1:9.9.3.dfsg.P2-4ubuntu1.1 <<>> @192.168.1.163 www.domain.tld
                                ; (1 server found)
                                ;; global options: +cmd
                                ;; Got answer:
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 31480
                                ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 3
                                
                                ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;www.domain.tld.		IN	A
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                www.domain.tld.	38400	IN	A	xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
                                
                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                domain.tld.	38400	IN	NS	localhost.localdomain.
                                
                                ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                localhost.localdomain.	86400	IN	A	127.0.0.1
                                localhost.localdomain.	86400	IN	AAAA	::1
                                
                                ;; Query time: 3 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.163#53(192.168.1.163)
                                ;; WHEN: Mon Mar 03 10:02:26 EST 2014
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 143
                                
                                192.168.1.120 ~ $ nslookup
                                > server 192.168.1.163
                                Default server: 192.168.1.163
                                Address: 192.168.1.163#53
                                > www.domain.tld
                                Server:		192.168.1.163
                                Address:	192.168.1.163#53
                                
                                Name:	www.domain.tld
                                Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
                                
                                
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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  And what is your bind config?

                                  Because I can understand why you would change out the IP address of your record, but that stays your Nameserver is 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain?

                                  And why was I not able to query it when I was teamviewered in and on your windows box.  Does your bind config not allow answer to network outside of 192.168.1.0/24?

                                  Please post your bind config.

                                  should be named.conf.

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                                    eiger3970
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                                    Ok, here's the BIND configuration on the webserver.

                                    
                                    //
                                    // named.conf
                                    //
                                    // Provided by Red Hat bind package to configure the ISC BIND named(8) DNS
                                    // server as a caching only nameserver (as a localhost DNS resolver only).
                                    //
                                    // See /usr/share/doc/bind*/sample/ for example named configuration files.
                                    //
                                    
                                    options {
                                            listen-on port 53 {
                                                    any;
                                                    };
                                            listen-on-v6 port 53 {
                                                    any;
                                                    };
                                            directory       "/var/named";
                                            dump-file       "/var/named/data/cache_dump.db";
                                            statistics-file "/var/named/data/named_stats.txt";
                                            memstatistics-file "/var/named/data/named_mem_stats.txt";
                                            recursion yes;
                                    
                                            dnssec-enable yes;
                                            dnssec-validation yes;
                                            dnssec-lookaside auto;
                                    
                                            /* Path to ISC DLV key */
                                            bindkeys-file "/etc/named.iscdlv.key";
                                    
                                            managed-keys-directory "/var/named/dynamic";
                                    };
                                    
                                    logging {
                                            channel default_debug {
                                                    file "data/named.run";
                                                    severity dynamic;
                                            };
                                    };
                                    
                                    zone "." IN {
                                            type hint;
                                    file "named.ca";
                                    };
                                    
                                    include "/etc/named.rfc1912.zones";
                                    include "/etc/named.root.key";
                                    
                                    zone "domain.tld" {
                                            type master;
                                            file "/var/named/domain.tld.hosts";
                                            allow-transfer {
                                                    127.0.0.1;
                                                    localnets;
                                                    };
                                            };
                                    
                                    

                                    I think you weren't able to query the BIND server when in the Windows OS, as the Windows OS was on a network of 10.0.0.1, being different from BIND server's network 192.168.1.0/24.

                                    I tested if the pfSense firewall is blocking port 53 with the following results:

                                    
                                    192.168.1.163# lsof -ni tcp:53
                                    COMMAND  PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
                                    named   1300 named   20u  IPv6   9350      0t0  TCP *:domain (LISTEN)
                                    named   1300 named   21u  IPv4   9355      0t0  TCP 127.0.0.1:domain (LISTEN)
                                    named   1300 named   25u  IPv4  10525      0t0  TCP 192.168.1.163:domain (LISTEN)
                                    
                                    192.168.1.163# netstat -nat | grep :53
                                    tcp        0      0 192.168.1.163:53            0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      
                                    tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:53                0.0.0.0:*                   LISTEN      
                                    tcp        0      0 :::53                       :::*                        LISTEN
                                    
                                    192.168.1.120# lsof -ni tcp:53
                                    
                                    192.168.1.120# netstat -nat | grep :53
                                    
                                    

                                    If I understand the results, then my LAN computer 192.168.1.120 can't get through pfSense 192.168.1.155 to the webserver 192.168.1.163's DNS port 53.

                                    pfSense does have port 53 forwarded to 192.168.1.163.

                                    I didn't know the Windows OS was on a different network…this must have happened by default with the Virtual Machine's bridge setting.
                                    I am trying to fix this.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      And do you have a firewall running on this server..  You must because that explains the problem.  Windows was pinging the IP, so should of worked unless firewall on the .163 box blocking?

                                      As to .120 can't get through - what???  You queried and got an answer..  And .120 does not NOT go through pfsense to get to .163 – they are on the same segment, pfsense is only used for on and off that 192.168.1.0/24 segment - boxes talking to each other on that network could give a shit if pfsense was even on.

                                      Lets be clear you are changing out domain.tld for your actual domain?

                                      And you think you did what with that netstat and lsof command?  That has Nothing to do with what pfsense is or isn't doing, your just showing if that box is listening on tcp 53..  What about UDP, most queries use UDP not TCP..  tcp would be used for zone transfers and large queries.

                                      And once you get queries working, you have to fix your zone file - you can not list localhost.localdomain as your NS with loopback as the IP and expect the zone to work ;)

                                      Can you run

                                      iptables --list

                                      On the centos box, the .163 so we can see the firewall rules on it.  Prob have to be root to run it.

                                      example

                                      root@ubuntu:/# iptables --list
                                      Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
                                      target    prot opt source              destination
                                      sshguard  all  --  anywhere            anywhere

                                      Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
                                      target    prot opt source              destination

                                      Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
                                      target    prot opt source              destination

                                      Chain sshguard (1 references)
                                      target    prot opt source              destination
                                      root@ubuntu:/#

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                                        eiger3970
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                                        There might be a default firewall running on the webserver, however before pfSense was installed, the website showed, so the only difference is pfSense added, not turning on (or off) any firewall on the webserver.

                                        Windows was on the wrong network, so that was another issue…I've fixed that now so Windows is on the same network.

                                        Yes, I'm changing the real website with domain.tld.

                                        Here's the iptables --list from the webserver 192.168.1.163

                                        
                                        # iptables --list
                                        Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
                                        target     prot opt source               destination         
                                        ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:ftp-data 
                                        ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:ftp 
                                        ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere            udp dpt:domain 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:dnp 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ndmp 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:https 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:http 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:imaps 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:imap 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:pop3s 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:pop3 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ftp-data 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ftp 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:domain 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:submission 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:smtp 
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ssh 
                                        ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            state RELATED,ESTABLISHED 
                                        ACCEPT     icmp --  anywhere             anywhere            
                                        ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            
                                        ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            state NEW tcp dpt:ssh 
                                        REJECT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            reject-with icmp-host-prohibited 
                                        
                                        Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
                                        target     prot opt source               destination         
                                        REJECT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere            reject-with icmp-host-prohibited 
                                        
                                        Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
                                        target     prot opt source               destination
                                        
                                        
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                                          eiger3970
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                                          So I researched and the IP table listed above seems to indicate that DNS packets on port 53 are not blocked.
                                          This would indicate pfSense blocking then I think?

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            well unless you changed something again pfsense was forwarding dns to your .163 box - but no answers were coming back..

                                            What version of bind are you running?  I don't see any allow statement for queries

                                            I see this

                                            zone "domain.tld" {
                                                    type master;
                                                    file "/var/named/domain.tld.hosts";
                                                    allow-transfer {
                                                            127.0.0.1;
                                                            localnets;
                                                            };
                                                    };

                                            But there should be a allow query statement like this

                                            allow-query {
                                            any;
                                            };

                                            Or there should be an ACL, setup - and the fact that you allow recursion - if you do get it working your dns will be used in an attack fairly quickly..

                                            Please email with a time to TV back in and we will put this to bed

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