New Alix board for 2013
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http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm work's for me…
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Note that this is a beta board. I don't know when they will be releasing the final version.
They weren't supposed to be resold.
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It looks like the production batch are due for delivery on 5 March 2014.
The new board does not have a CF card slot. But I really like the nanoBSD 2-boot-slice functionality, and don't need a Squid cache etc.
How can these be configured to still use the nanoBSD image? Put a baby SSD in it and flash the nanoBSD image direct onto that? or? -
It has an a USB connected SD slot. You should be able to boot Nano from that.
Then again it also claims 2 mini-PCIe slots but the picture clearly shows 3, am I missing something?
Steve
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2 miniPCIe slots and one mSATA slot.
PCIe and SATA are electrically the same (thus even the same connector) but run a different protocol. -
Ah, of course. I knew I was missing something. Thanks.
Steve
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The new Alix (apu1c) is expected on 5.3.2014:
http://www.pcengines.ch/order1.php?c=63124
Seems the entry on the page got removed.
Too bad that tomorrow isn't second christmas. ^^" -
Seems the entry on the page got removed.
Too bad that tomorrow isn't second christmas. ^^"according to my german provider, they're still expected this week… Already ordered two for tests! Hope to have em soon...
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Price increased and 4GB version listed:
2GB > 145
4GB > 165 -
Updated…
| Board | apu1c4 | $165 | http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1c4.htm | |
| Enclosure | case1d2redu | $9.3 | http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d2redu.htm | |
| US Plug | ac12vus | $4.5 | http://www.pcengines.ch/ac12vus.htm | |
| M-SATA SSD | msata16a | $20 | http://www.pcengines.ch/msata16a.htm | |
| Wireless Card | wle200nx | $18.7 | http://www.pcengines.ch/wle200nx.htm | |
| VPN Card | ?? | | | |
| CPU Info | | | http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-G%20Series%20G-T40E%20-%20GET40EFQB22GVE.html | |
| Order Page | | | http://www.pcengines.ch/order1.php?c=63124 | |
| | | $217.5 | | |
| | Shipping | $44 | | |
| | | $261.5 | | | -
You think that crypto card is going to actually accelerate anything on the new board?
More importantly the APU board doesn't have any mini-PCI slots! ;)Steve
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you are right..
My bad .. apologies
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I see that wireless card is (according to PC engines) unsupported by pfSense. Anyone know if that's true? Or if there's a miniPCIe card available that would work?
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I see that wireless card is (according to PC engines) unsupported by pfSense. Anyone know if that's true? Or if there's a miniPCIe card available that would work?
That is true, check this: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,70700.msg385961.html and this: https://redmine.pfsense.com/issues/3423
2.1.1 won't have updated Atheros drivers to support cards like this, so you'll have to wait for 2.2 to use any wireless on this board according to this https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,72763.msg396957.html#msg396957
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This is way too expensive.
Intel NUC Kit DCCP847DYE is merely $144 with case/power and , a much more powerful cpu
what's the point to stick to ALIX still?
Did I miss something?Updated…
| Board | apu1c4 | $165 | http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1c4.htm | |
| Enclosure | case1d2redu | $9.3 | http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d2redu.htm | |
| US Plug | ac12vus | $4.5 | http://www.pcengines.ch/ac12vus.htm | |
| M-SATA SSD | msata16a | $20 | http://www.pcengines.ch/msata16a.htm | |
| Wireless Card | wle200nx | $18.7 | http://www.pcengines.ch/wle200nx.htm | |
| VPN Card | ?? | | | |
| CPU Info | | | http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bobcat/AMD-G%20Series%20G-T40E%20-%20GET40EFQB22GVE.html | |
| Order Page | | | http://www.pcengines.ch/order1.php?c=63124 | |
| | | $217.5 | | |
| | Shipping | $44 | | |
| | | $261.5 | | | -
what's the point to stick to ALIX still?
Did I miss something?For starters:
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SSD / wireless card / RAM:
Your price point of $144 for the NUC does not include either SSD, RAM or wireless card (not yet supported on pfSense but elsewhere and this is talking about hardware price), while the quoted $217.50 for the APU does include wireless NIC, SSD and 2GB RAM -
Ethernet ports:
ALIX / APU features 3 ethernet ports.
DCCP847DYE kit has only one single ethernet port and there’s no way of adding another one internally (due to the case).
So how would you go about setting this up as a router? (USB ethernet just plain doesn’t work reliably on pfSense) -
APU has bootable SD card slot, which can act as even less expensive boot media than SSD
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APU is fanless while the NUC includes a fan (though, granted, this might also be taken as an advantage in some environments)
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APU has a serial interface which obviates need for a display
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APU allows for easier internal installation of supported 3G/4G (e.g. for backup connectivity)
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APU uses open source BIOS, whereas Intel probably uses some closed source firmware (and can you trust American companions not to put some backdoors in their kit?)
Don't get me wrong, I think the NUC is an interesting concept and I can see some applications for it - but I don't think it's particularly well-suited for pfSense or any firewalling/gateway use
This is way too expensive.
I think it depends on how you look at it:
Its price point may seem steep if compared to consumer-grade hardware in sheer price/performance ratio.
But it is relatively inexpensive compared to most embedded / network appliance hardware. -
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So how would you go about setting this up as a router? (USB ethernet just plain doesn’t work reliably on pfSense)
I've been using Apple USB Ethernet Adapters on multiple machines for a couple of years now with zero issues, a bit overpriced (about $30 now) but it works.
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For starters:
- SSD / wireless card / RAM:
Your price point of $144 for the NUC does not include either SSD, RAM or wireless card (not yet supported on pfSense but elsewhere and this is talking about hardware price), while the quoted $217.50 for the APU does include wireless NIC, SSD and 2GB RAM
The quoted board is even the version with 4GB ram.
The 2 GB version costs about 20$ less. - SSD / wireless card / RAM:
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;D just received my apu1c today. Upgrading from alix using export/import configuration worked just fine.
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;D just received my apu1c today. Upgrading from alix using export/import configuration worked just fine.
We want more!!!!!
Idle/Full load temperatures and power consumption?
Performance?