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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      You have bridge0 containing both em1 and em2. They both have static IP addresses in different subnets. Are they both running dhcp? (Is that possible?). You have bridged the two subnets so that they both exist across both network segments. I'm fairly sure you don't want to do that.

      Steve

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        doktornotor Banned
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        I cannot see any pfSense anywhere on the networking diagrams you posted. Really dunno what you are trying to do there. When nothing's connected, nothing will work. Other than that - flush the mess you have created down the drain, and produce a barebones basic setup with 3 NICs. No "teaming", "bridging" and similar nonsense.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          Good catch.. Didn't even get that far in his listing

          bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                  ether 02:1b:ed:00:ce:00
                  id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                  maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                  root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                  member: em2 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 20000
                  member: em1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000

          I just don't get it.. You really just click click and pfsense works out of the box – its like these users go out of their way to have issues.. Why would he have created a bridge??  When clearly he mentions multiple segments.  And he seems to have a hard time posting actual info that is what his network is..  How do you not notice that what you posts shows NOTHING connected to your vswitches? ;)</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>

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            Jamerson
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            @stephenw10:

            You have bridge0 containing both em1 and em2. They both have static IP addresses in different subnets. Are they both running dhcp? (Is that possible?). You have bridged the two subnets so that they both exist across both network segments. I'm fairly sure you don't want to do that.

            Steve

            Hi Stephen
            LAN2 has a DHCP enable and the machines recieves the IP from the DHCP server
            192.168.6.11
            255.255.255.0
            192.168.6.1

            @doktornotor:

            I cannot see any pfSense anywhere on the networking diagrams you posted. Really dunno what you are trying to do there. When nothing's connected, nothing will work. Other than that - flush the mess you have created down the drain, and produce a barebones basic setup with 3 NICs. No "teaming", "bridging" and similar nonsense.

            ASA Firewall is the PFSENSE on the diagrame,
            i havent created any Teaming yet. i am just trying to get the VM to access the internet without Physical NIC attached to the Vswitch on the ESXI
            @johnpoz:

            Good catch.. Didn't even get that far in his listing

            bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                    ether 02:1b:ed:00:ce:00
                    id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                    maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                    root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                    member: em2 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 20000
                    member: em1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000

            I just don't get it.. You really just click click and pfsense works out of the box – its like these users go out of their way to have issues.. Why would he have created a bridge??  When clearly he mentions multiple segments.  And he seems to have a hard time posting actual info that is what his network is..  How do you not notice that what you posts shows NOTHING connected to your vswitches? ;)</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>

            i have created a vm and attached to LAN2 with LAN2 NIC of PFSENSE
            and still can't get to the internet
            i didnt really created any bridg connection, probably it out of the box ?

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              doktornotor Banned
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              @Jamerson:

              i didnt really created any bridg connection, probably it out of the box ?

              No, there is absolutely NO bridge created out of the box. As already suggested quite some time ago, reset the config to factory defaults and start from scratch, with a simple setup, and do not do anything else until you understand the consequences.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                @Jamerson:

                i didnt really created any bridg connection, probably it out of the box ?

                Not any time I've installed pfSense.  ;) Though I've never used the OVA preconfigured VM.
                I too would not expect to see a bridge interface unless you have deliberately created one.

                Steve

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  There is NO bridge out of the box that is for SURE!!  You must of created it - delete that!!

                  And your saying your clients are getting this via dhcp

                  192.168.6.11
                  255.255.255.0
                  192.168.6.1

                  Well so 6.1 is your gateway?  But pfsense doesn't have an IP on 6.1 via your ifconfig – it has .0 as its address.. Which is the WIRE and not a valid host IP for your mask of /24

                  em2: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                          options=9b <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum>ether 00:50:56:8c:a6:3b
                          inet 192.168.6.0 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255
                          inet6 fe80::250:56ff:fe8c:a63b%em2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                          nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                          status: active</full-duplex></performnud></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>

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                    Jamerson
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                    @johnpoz:

                    There is NO bridge out of the box that is for SURE!!  You must of created it - delete that!!

                    And your saying your clients are getting this via dhcp

                    192.168.6.11
                    255.255.255.0
                    192.168.6.1

                    Well so 6.1 is your gateway?  But pfsense doesn't have an IP on 6.1 via your ifconfig – it has .0 as its address.. Which is the WIRE and not a valid host IP for your mask of /24

                    em2: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=9b <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum>ether 00:50:56:8c:a6:3b
                            inet 192.168.6.0 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255
                            inet6 fe80::250:56ff:fe8c:a63b%em2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                            nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                            status: active</full-duplex></performnud></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>

                    the 192.168.6.0 i fixed it,
                    the LAN 2 NIC was assigned with the wrong IP 192.168.6.0 but now it's 192.168.6.1
                    can you direct me how to create the bridg between the two LAN ?

                    em0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=9b <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum>ether 00:50:56:a8:1a:4a
                            inet 192.168.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
                            inet6 fe80::250:56ff:fea8:1a4a%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                            nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                            status: active
                    em1: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=9b <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum>ether 00:50:56:8c:7e:c8
                            inet 192.168.4.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.4.255
                            inet6 fe80::250:56ff:fe8c:7ec8%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                            nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                            status: active
                    em2: flags=8943 <up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=98 <vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum>ether 00:50:56:8c:a6:3b
                            inet6 fe80::250:56ff:fe8c:a63b%em2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
                            inet 192.168.6.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.6.255
                            nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                            status: active
                    plip0: flags=8810 <pointopoint,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                    pflog0: flags=100 <promisc>metric 0 mtu 33144
                    lo0: flags=8049 <up,loopback,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 16384
                            options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
                            inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
                            inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
                            nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460
                            syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 syncok: 1
                    enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536
                    bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            ether 02:1b:ed:00:ce:00
                            id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                            maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                            root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                            member: em2 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 20000
                            member: em1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000
                    ovpns1: flags=8051 <up,pointopoint,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                            options=80000 <linkstate>inet6 fe80::250:56ff:fea8:1a4a%ovpns1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xa
                            inet 192.168.200.1 --> 192.168.200.2 netmask 0xffffffff
                            nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>Opened by PID 10306</performnud,accept_rtadv></linkstate></up,pointopoint,running,multicast></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,txcsum></up,loopback,running,multicast></promisc></pointopoint,simplex,multicast></full-duplex></performnud></vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast></full-duplex></performnud></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum></up,broadcast,running,promisc,simplex,multicast></full-duplex></performnud></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                    
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                      doktornotor Banned
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                      @Jamerson:

                      can you direct me how to create the bridg between the two LAN ?

                      Huh?! You already have one even though you should NOT have any as there's no reason for that!

                      
                      bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                              ether 02:1b:ed:00:ce:00
                              id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                              maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                              root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                              member: em2 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 20000
                              member: em1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                      

                      Are you actually listening to what people are writing here? WHY do you want to create yet another bridge?  :o

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                        Jamerson
                        last edited by

                        @doktornotor:

                        @Jamerson:

                        can you direct me how to create the bridg between the two LAN ?

                        Huh?! You already have one even though you should NOT have any as there's no reason for that!

                        
                        bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                ether 02:1b:ed:00:ce:00
                                id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                                maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                                root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                                member: em2 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 20000
                                member: em1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                        

                        Are you actually listening to what people are writing here? WHY do you want to create yet another bridge?  :o

                        i already answer this will be for testing, thank you .

                        LAN1 is production and LAN2 is for testing

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                          doktornotor Banned
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                          Well, dude… this goes nowhere. WHAT are you testing with a setup that is totally FUBARed and you refuse any advise to get it fixed? You already bridged 2 out of 3 LANs, so what else do you want to bridge and WHY? . Like, some real reason what you expect from that. No, "it's for testing" is NOT any reason that makes sense. You have already tested that your setup does not work.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            And you would not "bridge" between "production" and "testing"..  You might bridge between physical segment that you need to extend into different locations - using 1 address network block.  You would not bridge 2 different networks segments.  That is utter nonsense..

                            And as already pointed out you already have one - which you say you didn't create..  WTF dude??  delete it - or better yet.  Just wipe this pfsense vm completely and start over with a download iso you boot your new vm to and install.  You should have nice clean setup with what you want to do it like 5 minutes top..  Out of the box you have to do like 3 things - set your wan static, change your lan to your ip range you want to use vs the default 192.168.1.0/24 and then create your 2nd segment and put in the any any firewall rule on this lan2 segment.  There your done!!

                            Then you can start testing - what I have no idea..

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                              Jamerson
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz:

                              And you would not "bridge" between "production" and "testing"..  You might bridge between physical segment that you need to extend into different locations - using 1 address network block.  You would not bridge 2 different networks segments.  That is utter nonsense..

                              And as already pointed out you already have one - which you say you didn't create..  WTF dude??  delete it - or better yet.  Just wipe this pfsense vm completely and start over with a download iso you boot your new vm to and install.  You should have nice clean setup with what you want to do it like 5 minutes top..  Out of the box you have to do like 3 things - set your wan static, change your lan to your ip range you want to use vs the default 192.168.1.0/24 and then create your 2nd segment and put in the any any firewall rule on this lan2 segment.  There your done!!

                              Then you can start testing - what I have no idea..

                              John thank you so much for your continu support.
                              i will use a Physicall NIC to LAN 2.
                              really appreciate all your support guys.
                              and apologies if i caused any furstration !

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                Physical nic??  What??  Dude are you on medication or something?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Try to remain calm.  ;D

                                  We are somewhat going around in circles here.

                                  Jamerson, what is your final goal here? Could you describe, perhaps with a diagram, what you are hoping to achieve.

                                  Steve

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Dude this guy is just loopy..  He is either off his medication or on some, or english is not his native language is only thing that explains this nonsense.

                                    As to what he is trying to achieve, isn't it clear ;)  "i am using all my 3 NICS to use Teaming so all traffic will go thought the WAN."

                                    So either stoned or not a native speaker is my guess ;)  I really want to help the guy - but its getting a bit ridiculous, maybe he is just trolling and having a good laugh?

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                                      podilarius
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                                      I am sure he doesn't know what bridging and teaming are. So it would seem that others don't either. It looks like he is wanting a routed solution. teaming in VMWare, Windows, and linux is akin to LAGG in pfSense. Bridging is completely different.
                                      On LAN and LAN2, please unset the Gateways. Turn off blocking of private and bogons on LAN and LAN2. Not on WAN unless WAN network is private. Then if you changed from autoNAT, turn it back on unless you plan on some expert configuration.

                                      Create an two aliases. One that has the LAN subnet in there 10.0.10.0/24 and another Alias that has LAN2 subnet in it (192.168.2.0/24). Then create an rule in LAN (or modify the existing one) that states Any proto, from LAN subnet, any port ::: to ::: !LAN2 Subnet (the alias you created) on any port ::: Allow.
                                      Create a similar rule on LAN2 that allows any traffic NOT going to LAN to pass.
                                      This will block LAN and LAN2 from communicating.

                                      Hope that helps.

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                                        Jamerson
                                        last edited by

                                        John,
                                        yes English is not my First Language !
                                        what i want is explained on the attached Diagrams
                                        Vswitch 2 on the ESXI doesn't have a Physique NIC
                                        my Win7 can't reach the internet when the Vswitch 2 doesn't have a Physical NIC, when i connect a Physical NIC to the switch the internet start working,

                                        i used to use Vyatta for the laste 6 years, and it Always works fine like this way ( wihtout Physical NIC on the Vswitch ).
                                        with Vyatta i've bridged the LAN 1 and LAN 2 to each others to go over the WAN and reach the internet wihtout needing a Physical NIC on the Vswitch.
                                        i hope it clear to you what i want.

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                                          podilarius
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                                          Its clear to me. You just don't need to bridge unless you are going to run LAN and LAN2 in the same subnet. Routing will work just fine. You don't need as physical NIC in the vswitch. Everyone else is just saying that you have to have something in there that is part of pfsense and another machine. I have used this setup in a lab and it works just fine.

                                          Any more clarification would be good.

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                                            doktornotor Banned
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                                            @johnpoz:

                                            Physical nic??  What??

                                            Hopefully he's not going to try to physically hammer the physical NIC to the virtual machine.  :o

                                            @OP: Remove the bridges nonsense. We won't move anywhere while it's still there in place. Plus, bridging on FBSD does not exactly work like you'd think it does when it comes to firewall behaviour, at least not unless you've flipped a couple of system tunables and assigned the bridge interface itself instead of its members, e.g. like here:

                                            
                                            bridge0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                                    ether 02:5f:58:aa:bb:00
                                                    inet 10.20.31.254 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.20.31.255
                                                    inet6 2001:470:xx:xx::254 prefixlen 64
                                                    nd6 options=1 <performnud>id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15
                                                    maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200
                                                    root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0
                                                    member: vr0 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 55
                                                    member: vr2 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 3 priority 128 path cost 55
                                                    member: vr1 flags=143 <learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp>ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 55</learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></learning,discover,autoedge,autoptp></performnud></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                                            

                                            (the above being an Alix box which serves pretty much as a dumb WiFi AP plus hotspot with captive portal), other than that, no firewall, routing only, all the physical RJ45 ports being bridged on a WAN - which is attached to another pfSense box via a LAN interface - and basically acting just as a dumb switch.)

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