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    • bmeeksB
      bmeeks
      last edited by

      @priller:

      ** Problem - Cannot Disable Interface **

      Problem:  Cannot disable Suricata on an interface, it faults to "The following input errors were detected: The value for Maximum-Pending-Packets must be between 1 and 65,000!"

      Steps to Reproduce:

      1. Have Suricata enable and running on an interface.  Max Pending Packets is at the default 1024.

      2. Uncheck "Enable" and hit "Save".

      3. The error box "The following input errors were detected: The value for Maximum-Pending-Packets must be between 1 and 65,000!"  pops up.

      4. Go back to interfaces and the disable action did not take.

      I will fix it.  I screwed up the order of input validation and also forgot to skip it all when just disabling the interface.  My bad… :-[

      I will post the Pull Request today, and hopefully one of the Core Team devs will have a chance to review and approve.

      Bill

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      • bmeeksB
        bmeeks
        last edited by

        @priller:

        Very minor thing, but passing it along.  When the widget gets an IPv6 alert, it causes the right side border to extend past the normal alignment.  The Snort widget wraps the address.

        Here it is with only IPv4 alerts and with an IPv6 alert changing the alignment.

        I will try to get this fixed in the next update as well.  The only way I've found around this is to insert zero-length spaces next to every colon in an IPv6 address.  These don't display, but they offer the browser a "line break" opportunity.  This makes the prettiest line break (breaking on a colon, that is).  The other option is a forced wrap, but that can happen in odd places and makes readability more difficult.

        Related to this, what is the preference among users for how to delimit ports when displaying IPv6 addresses?  The IPv4 standard is a colon at the end of the address, but since IPv6 already has colons, things are more confusing.

        Bill

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        • AhnHELA
          AhnHEL
          last edited by

          @bmeeks:

          Related to this, what is the preference among users for how to delimit ports when displaying IPv6 addresses?  The IPv4 standard is a colon at the end of the address, but since IPv6 already has colons, things are more confusing.

          I believe square brackets around the address portion of the address is the standard.

          AhnHEL (Angel)

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          • bmeeksB
            bmeeks
            last edited by

            @AhnHEL:

            @bmeeks:

            Related to this, what is the preference among users for how to delimit ports when displaying IPv6 addresses?  The IPv4 standard is a colon at the end of the address, but since IPv6 already has colons, things are more confusing.

            I believe square brackets around the address portion of the address is the standard.

            Thanks!  I will make the adjustment in the widget display.

            Bill

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks
              last edited by

              Bug Fix Update

              Just FYI.  A new Pull Request was posted today containing fixes for the bugs reported thus far with the Suricata package.  The version number will remain the same for now, but I will post an update when the pull request is merged and then interested parties can do a quick reinstall of the Suricata package GUI components to pick up the fixes.

              Here is a link to the Pull Request with the details:  https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense-packages/pull/622

              Bill

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                priller
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                What are the possibilities of adding in some log file rotation routines?  alerts.log and http.log have grown to the point that it's not practical to view them in the Logs Browser.

                1041187808 Mar 13 21:52 alerts.log    ( a very unhappy checksum rule filled this up rather quickly )
                47180176    Mar 14 07:31 http.log

                Even just a daily rotation with date in the file name (ex: alerts_20140314.log) would be nice.

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                • bmeeksB
                  bmeeks
                  last edited by

                  @priller:

                  What are the possibilities of adding in some log file rotation routines?  alerts.log and http.log have grown to the point that it's not practical to view them in the Logs Browser.

                  1041187808 Mar 13 21:52 alerts.log    ( a very unhappy checksum rule filled this up rather quickly )
                  47180176    Mar 14 07:31 http.log

                  Even just a daily rotation with date in the file name (ex: alerts_20140314.log) would be nice.

                  I can do that.  I also noticed that Suricata can be quite chatty.  I will make the rotation a configurable cron job so the user can select from several rotation options.

                  Bill

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                  • BBcan177B
                    BBcan177 Moderator
                    last edited by

                    ET has finally killed the RBN rulesets.

                    http://www.emergingthreats.net/2014/03/14/daily-ruleset-update-summary-03142014-%CF%80-edition/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=daily-ruleset-update-summary-03142014-%25cf%2580-edition

                    "Emerging Threats would like to remind and/or inform everyone that this ruleset does not contain the Russian Business Network (RBN) rules. These rules are obsolete and will not be distributed in future releases."

                    Another feature for Snort/Suricata that would help is to have two Alert screens.

                    One for the noisy alerts like Scans/CINS/DROP/MYSQL/SQL etc.
                    One for all other alerts which would make it easier to see from the Alert screen without all of the other alerts on the same log.

                    "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                    Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                    Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                    Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by

                      Time to update the blueprint with the removed rules then. Open to suggestions for lists to replace those.

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                      • BBcan177B
                        BBcan177 Moderator
                        last edited by

                        For ET changes, these three seem to still be online -

                        pfBlocker ET Blocker
                        http://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt
                        http://rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/compromised-ips.txt
                        http://doc.emergingthreats.net/pub/Main/RussianBusinessNetwork/RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt

                        For Snort/Suricta, I would always recommend that people start with as many rules as their box can handle (Memory and CPU) and start in non-blocking mode, remove all the false positives over several weeks of review. And then putting it into Blocking mode. With Bills new tweeks removing Rules from the Alert Page makes it easier. If we had the endablesid.conf and disablesid.conf files we could populate those files with our settings and it would be even easier to manage.

                        –-----------------------------------------

                        Here is a list for pfBlocker.

                        I like to keep the lists separate so I can see what is triggering a block. This helps to weed out False Positives.

                        pfblockerlists

                        pfBlocker iBlockList
                        http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=bt_hijacked&fileformat=p2p
                        http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=ficutxiwawokxlcyoeye&fileformat=p2p
                        http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=ghlzqtqxnzctvvajwwag&fileformat=p2p
                        http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=tbnuqfclfkemqivekikv&fileformat=p2p
                        http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=bt_spyware&fileformat=p2p
                        http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=bt_templist&fileformat=p2p

                        pfBlocker ET Blocker
                        http://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt
                        http://rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/compromised-ips.txt
                        http://doc.emergingthreats.net/pub/Main/RussianBusinessNetwork/RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt

                        Spamhaus
                        http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt
                        http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/edrop.txt

                        pfBlocker Other
                        http://www.ciarmy.com/list/ci-badguys.txt
                        http://danger.rulez.sk/projects/bruteforceblocker/blist.php
                        http://www.us.openbl.org/lists/base_30days.txt
                        http://malc0de.com/bl/IP_Blacklist.txt

                        pfBlocker Zeus/SpyEye/Palevo
                        https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=ipblocklist
                        https://spyeyetracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=ipblocklist
                        https://palevotracker.abuse.ch/blocklists.php?download=ipblocklist

                        pfBlocker dShield
                        http://feeds.dshield.org/top10-2.txt

                        pfBlocker Arbor Networks - Atlas
                        https://atlas.arbor.net/summary/attacks.csv
                        https://atlas.arbor.net/summary/botnets.csv
                        https://atlas.arbor.net/summary/fastflux.csv
                        https://atlas.arbor.net/summary/phishing.csv
                        https://atlas.arbor.net/summary/scans.csv
                        http://atlas-public.ec2.arbor.net/public/ssh_attackers

                        pfBlocker Malware Domain List
                        http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/ip.txt

                        pfBlocker No Think!
                        http://www.nothink.org/blacklist/blacklist_malware_http.txt
                        http://www.nothink.org/blacklist/blacklist_ssh_week.txt
                        http://www.nothink.org/blacklist/blacklist_malware_dns.txt

                        pfBlocker SRI
                        http://cgi.mtc.sri.com/download/attackers/01-17-2014/Get_Top-51_30-Day_Filterset.html
                        http://cgi.mtc.sri.com/download/cc_servers/01-17-2014/Get_Top-1_30-Day_Filterset.html

                        pfBlocker Infiltrated
                        http://www.infiltrated.net/blacklisted

                        pfBlocker AlienVault
                        https://reputation.alienvault.com/reputation.snort

                        DRG
                        http://www.dragonresearchgroup.org/insight/sshpwauth.txt
                        http://www.dragonresearchgroup.org/insight/vncprobe.txt
                        http://www.dragonresearchgroup.org/insight/http-report.txt

                        pfBlocker Feodo
                        https://feodotracker.abuse.ch/blocklist/?download=ipblocklist
                        https://feodotracker.abuse.ch/blocklist/?download=badips

                        pfBlocker Blocklist.de
                        http://lists.blocklist.de/lists/all.txt
                        http://www.senderbase.org/static/spam/#tab=2

                        pfBlocker StopForumSpam
                        Local List (.CSV script to convert)

                        pfBlocker Autoshun
                        Local List (.CSV script to convert)

                        "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                        Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                        Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                        Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                        • ?
                          A Former User
                          last edited by

                          http://doc.emergingthreats.net/pub/Main/RussianBusinessNetwork/RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt

                          I think that's the one that was causing problems for a number of people, so I switched from that to the "new" RBN list (now obsolete).

                          A couple of interesting lists there, will test them out. If you are ok with it, I'll add them in due time to the blueprint and credit you.

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                          • BBcan177B
                            BBcan177 Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I had that link with the other ET links and never noticed that it wasn't updating properly.

                            If you use the pffetch script that I wrote previously, you can add that to the script and add a link in pfBlocker to the local file.

                            fetch http://doc.emergingthreats.net/pub/Main/RussianBusinessNetwork/RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt
                            It will download as "RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt"

                            The more effort we all make the better off we all are. Open Source all the way!

                            ** SORRY Bill for taking over this Thread… ***

                            "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                            Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                            Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                            Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                            • BBcan177B
                              BBcan177 Moderator
                              last edited by

                              I took another look at the RBN text document in VI, and noticed that each line has a "^M" carriage return. This is probably what was causing issues with pfBlocker not reading the file properly. The RBN list is out of date, but there are still alot of hits on my Router from Russia!!

                              You can filter the ^M with -

                              fetch http://doc.emergingthreats.net/pub/Main/RussianBusinessNetwork/RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt
                              returncode=$?
                              echo $returncode

                              if [ "$returncode" -eq "0" ]; then
                                      cat RussianBusinessNetworkIPs.txt | tr -d '\r' > RBN.txt
                              fi

                              and use the RBN.txt in pfBlocker local file.

                              "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                              Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                              Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                              Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
                                last edited by

                                The funny thing is that I personally never had a problem with that list. It downloaded and added the IPs in the table  (checked it myself, and the IPs were there), as well as updated for over a year with no issues at all. Some other people though always had problems with it.

                                That list belongs to the ET guys, so I'm assuming that it too will be made obsolete. I know that you should never assume but…

                                yea, sorry Bill for taking over the thread  :P

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                                  felesaerius
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                                  Not sure if this is the place to post, but I figure it's a good starting point if nothing else, is there an easy way to get Suricata to throw the logs to Kibana like Suricata shows on their site?
                                  http://idsips.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kibana300.png

                                  Per this walkthrough:
                                  https://redmine.openinfosecfoundation.org/projects/suricata/wiki/_Logstash_Kibana_and_Suricata_JSON_output

                                  It wants Suricata to have libjansson support enabled… the only thing they're missing is how to get Suricata and the install of Kibana, etc to talk to each other, but this all may be way too much to ask this early on in the game, not sure if anyone has any tips on it. Thank you for helping if possible!

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                                  • bmeeksB
                                    bmeeks
                                    last edited by

                                    @felesaerius:

                                    Not sure if this is the place to post, but I figure it's a good starting point if nothing else, is there an easy way to get Suricata to throw the logs to Kibana like Suricata shows on their site?
                                    http://idsips.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/kibana300.png

                                    Per this walkthrough:
                                    https://redmine.openinfosecfoundation.org/projects/suricata/wiki/_Logstash_Kibana_and_Suricata_JSON_output

                                    It wants Suricata to have libjansson support enabled… the only thing they're missing is how to get Suricata and the install of Kibana, etc to talk to each other, but this all may be way too much to ask this early on in the game, not sure if anyone has any tips on it. Thank you for helping if possible!

                                    I am not familiar with Kibana but will check it out.  So long as an external log stash package can accept data over a network connection then pushing Suricata logs should be possible.  It gets much more dicey to try and add another package to pfSense itself.  Besides, it's not a good idea to run a bunch of applications on your firewall because that increases the security vulnerability exposure substantially.

                                    Bill

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                                      simby
                                      last edited by

                                      any options to have suricata 2.0 and have options to block ip?

                                      can i have only to drop packet, not to block ip (snort or. suricata)?

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                                      • bmeeksB
                                        bmeeks
                                        last edited by

                                        @simby:

                                        any options to have suricata 2.0 and have options to block ip?

                                        can i have only to drop packet, not to block ip (snort or. suricata)?

                                        Suricata 2.0 was not in the FreeBSD ports repository last time I checked (about a week ago).  So we will need to wait for FreeBSD ports to update Suricata to 2.0 before it can come to pfSense.

                                        I am working on the blocking code for Suricata now.

                                        Bill

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                                          Supermule Banned
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                                          Thanks a billion Bill!! Youre SO much the man of this project right now!

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                                          • bmeeksB
                                            bmeeks
                                            last edited by

                                            @Supermule:

                                            Thanks a billion Bill!! Youre SO much the man of this project right now!

                                            Thank you.  One caveat for Suricata blocking.  Initially it will have to operate the same way as Snort does using libpcap.  Thus it won't be true inline-mode IPS.  Ermal has to make some changes in the ipfw code within pfSense in order to accommodate true inline IPS mode.  However, due to the problem of context switching between kernel mode and user-land, IPS mode when it comes won't be nearly as fast as the pseudo-IPS mode Snort uses (and that Suricata will use initially).  So true inline IPS is probably not going to be very useful for heavily loaded firewalls.  That's just the nature of the beast unless you go to highly customized code, and if you do that then you can't easily follow the upstream updates.

                                            The kernel changes to support true IPS may or may not make it into 2.2.  That is not up to me.  It is up to the pfSense team.  However, I can include the pseudo-IPS mode without those kernel changes.  That means pseudo-IPS can work with 2.1.x releases.  The pseudo-IPS mode is what I am working on now.

                                            Bill

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