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    • bmeeksB
      bmeeks
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      @condector:

      he "duplicate entry" error is a problem with Barnyard 2.1.3 and the fix is to clear out the entire sig_reference table.  It will be repopulated when Barnyard2 starts up again.

      Stop all Barnyard2 processes.
      Login to the MySQL server and login to the database in question.
      Issue the command:
      Code: [Select]
      DELETE FROM sig_reference;
      Restart a single Barnyard2 process first and let it completely start up.
      Now start any additional processes.

      Bill

      This work for few moments and go down…

      There are lots of complaints on the Google lists about these kinds of Barnyard2 errors.  I'm not a Barnyard2 expert, but apparently some significant database changes were made with the last Barnyard2 update (which Snort and Suricata are now using on pfSense).  These changes result in these kinds of errors.  I will research some more to see if I can come up with a solution.  In the meantime, do some Google searches on those errors and you should come across several solutions posted by the Barnyard2 developers.  The solutions involve running some complicated SQL scripts directly in the database.

      I posted some links a couple of months ago to an excellent set of scripts that fixed the problem for me.  I will see if I can find my old post and update this thread with it.  The root cause here is having old Barnyard2 tables and data in the MySQL database but using the new Barnyard2 binary.

      I think this also is a problem when multiple Barnyard2 processes are sharing the same DB.  I don't know what the Barnyard2 developers did to cause this, but I agree it is irritating.

      Bill

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        gscasny
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        @armouredking:

        So, having issues with Snort again. Been running rather well up until the 2.1.2 update. Now it's back to not working at all.

        At first the issue was the same as before, that being the signature errors I mentioned in a previous thread. So I used truncate, that helped but didn't fix, so I did what I did last time to correct it and wiped the DB clean again. Now the communication begins again, everything looks clean, I reboot for a sanity check and….

        
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84684]: Barnyard2 exiting 
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84684]: database mysql_error: Access denied for user 'root'@'domain.com' (using password: YES) 
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84684]: Writing PID "84684" to file "/var/run/barnyard2_em055759.pid" 
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84684]: PID path stat checked out ok, PID path set to /var/run 
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84684]: Daemon initialized, signaled parent pid: 84444 
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84444]: Daemon parent exiting 
        Apr 13 01:13:56 barnyard2[84444]: Initializing daemon mode 
        
        

        This happens.

        Okay, whiskey-tango-foxtrot. Why you use root, pfSense? Root is not a configured user. Anywhere. Seems like a really simple error, but the error has me table bashing my skull as I can't figure out where the directive is coming from. I won't allow root to connect to my MySQL production server unless I'm physically needing it. So that's why it isn't working now. However, pfSense is absolutely determined that it will never connect under anything else. I have checked manually the files ( both Snort's pbi barnyard config files and pfSense overall config ), and they match what is currently shown in the webgui ( that is to say, with the normal dbuser configured for the Snort db ).

        In desperation following a remove / install of Snort still facing the same issues, I cleanwiped the drive and reinstalled pfSense from scratch - that is to say, clean from a CD with no imports from a previous config file, everything reentered by hand - and the error remains the same. pfSense is determined to use root only root and nothing but root, and I'm not gonna let it; especially when everything says it should be using the proper user that for some reason it is ignoring.

        I had this exact issue (along with continuing "Duplicate Entry" issues), but to fix it, I removed the "Sensor Name" in the Barnyard2 portion of the web gui. This corrected barnyard2 logging in as root. I was able to repeat the issue and correct it by adding a name to the "Sensor Name" - broke, and then removing it.. fixed.

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          gscasny
          last edited by

          @bmeeks:

          @condector:

          he "duplicate entry" error is a problem with Barnyard 2.1.3 and the fix is to clear out the entire sig_reference table.  It will be repopulated when Barnyard2 starts up again.

          Stop all Barnyard2 processes.
          Login to the MySQL server and login to the database in question.
          Issue the command:
          Code: [Select]
          DELETE FROM sig_reference;
          Restart a single Barnyard2 process first and let it completely start up.
          Now start any additional processes.

          Bill

          This work for few moments and go down…

          There are lots of complaints on the Google lists about these kinds of Barnyard2 errors.  I'm not a Barnyard2 expert, but apparently some significant database changes were made with the last Barnyard2 update (which Snort and Suricata are now using on pfSense).  These changes result in these kinds of errors.  I will research some more to see if I can come up with a solution.  In the meantime, do some Google searches on those errors and you should come across several solutions posted by the Barnyard2 developers.  The solutions involve running some complicated SQL scripts directly in the database.

          I posted some links a couple of months ago to an excellent set of scripts that fixed the problem for me.  I will see if I can find my old post and update this thread with it.  The root cause here is having old Barnyard2 tables and data in the MySQL database but using the new Barnyard2 binary.

          I think this also is a problem when multiple Barnyard2 processes are sharing the same DB.  I don't know what the Barnyard2 developers did to cause this, but I agree it is irritating.

          Bill

          Is there any fix for the duplicate entry mysql issue with Barnyard2? I have started with a fresh Snorby install and DB, and after 5 minutes barnyard2 stops with the duplicate entry. I have cleared the sig_reference table and still get the same issue.

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          • bmeeksB
            bmeeks
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            @gscasny:

            Is there any fix for the duplicate entry mysql issue with Barnyard2? I have started with a fresh Snorby install and DB, and after 5 minutes barnyard2 stops with the duplicate entry. I have cleared the sig_reference table and still get the same issue.

            I posted a new thread last evening containing links to two potential solutions.  Those worked for me on my Snorby install, but admittedly I only have a home network's traffic being logged so not very many events at all.  Here is link to that thread:  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=75357.0

            Also, I'm a bit confused by your two successive posts.  The first one at 8:51 AM says you fixed the problem by removing the sensor name, but then your newer one at 8:55 AM implies the problem still exists.  What underlying DB engine is your MySQL install using?  The Barnyard2 developers say it must be InnoDB.

            Bill

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              gscasny
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              @bmeeks:

              @gscasny:

              Is there any fix for the duplicate entry mysql issue with Barnyard2? I have started with a fresh Snorby install and DB, and after 5 minutes barnyard2 stops with the duplicate entry. I have cleared the sig_reference table and still get the same issue.

              I posted a new thread last evening containing links to two potential solutions.  Those worked for me on my Snorby install, but admittedly I only have a home network's traffic being logged so not very many events at all.  Here is link to that thread:  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=75357.0

              Also, I'm a bit confused by your two successive posts.  The first one at 8:51 AM says you fixed the problem by removing the sensor name, but then your newer one at 8:55 AM implies the problem still exists.  What underlying DB engine is your MySQL install using?  The Barnyard2 developers say it must be InnoDB.

              Bill

              Bill - thanks.. I am trying your fixes now.. I have a production firewall/IDS in place that I can generate a ton of events from so I can put it to a good test in a few..

              Im using InnoDB with the mysql install - it's actually a fresh Security Onion install that I am logging to.

              The issue I fixed with removing the sensor name was not the duplicate entry problem. It was the problem of Barnyard2 wanting to log into mysql with the "root" user instead of whatever user you put in as the mysql username in the barnyard2 tab. If I put in a sensor name (versus leaving it blank) then barnyard always tries to login as 'root'. If I leave the sensor name blank, it logs in properly. It does this with multiple sensors.

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              • bmeeksB
                bmeeks
                last edited by

                @gscasny:

                @bmeeks:

                @gscasny:

                Is there any fix for the duplicate entry mysql issue with Barnyard2? I have started with a fresh Snorby install and DB, and after 5 minutes barnyard2 stops with the duplicate entry. I have cleared the sig_reference table and still get the same issue.

                I posted a new thread last evening containing links to two potential solutions.  Those worked for me on my Snorby install, but admittedly I only have a home network's traffic being logged so not very many events at all.  Here is link to that thread:  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=75357.0

                Also, I'm a bit confused by your two successive posts.  The first one at 8:51 AM says you fixed the problem by removing the sensor name, but then your newer one at 8:55 AM implies the problem still exists.  What underlying DB engine is your MySQL install using?  The Barnyard2 developers say it must be InnoDB.

                Bill

                Bill - thanks.. I am trying your fixes now.. I have a production firewall/IDS in place that I can generate a ton of events from so I can put it to a good test in a few..

                Im using InnoDB with the mysql install - it's actually a fresh Security Onion install that I am logging to.

                The issue I fixed with removing the sensor name was not the duplicate entry problem. It was the problem of Barnyard2 wanting to log into mysql with the "root" user instead of whatever user you put in as the mysql username in the barnyard2 tab. If I put in a sensor name (versus leaving it blank) then barnyard always tries to login as 'root'. If I leave the sensor name blank, it logs in properly. It does this with multiple sensors.

                Thanks for the feedback on the sensor name anomaly.  I will look into that.  Could be I have a mistake in the code someplace.  I know I never coded "root" by design, but I do have fat fingers when typing… :(

                Bill

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                  gscasny
                  last edited by

                  @bmeeks:

                  @gscasny:

                  @bmeeks:

                  @gscasny:

                  Is there any fix for the duplicate entry mysql issue with Barnyard2? I have started with a fresh Snorby install and DB, and after 5 minutes barnyard2 stops with the duplicate entry. I have cleared the sig_reference table and still get the same issue.

                  I posted a new thread last evening containing links to two potential solutions.  Those worked for me on my Snorby install, but admittedly I only have a home network's traffic being logged so not very many events at all.  Here is link to that thread:  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=75357.0

                  Also, I'm a bit confused by your two successive posts.  The first one at 8:51 AM says you fixed the problem by removing the sensor name, but then your newer one at 8:55 AM implies the problem still exists.  What underlying DB engine is your MySQL install using?  The Barnyard2 developers say it must be InnoDB.

                  Bill

                  Bill - thanks.. I am trying your fixes now.. I have a production firewall/IDS in place that I can generate a ton of events from so I can put it to a good test in a few..

                  Im using InnoDB with the mysql install - it's actually a fresh Security Onion install that I am logging to.

                  The issue I fixed with removing the sensor name was not the duplicate entry problem. It was the problem of Barnyard2 wanting to log into mysql with the "root" user instead of whatever user you put in as the mysql username in the barnyard2 tab. If I put in a sensor name (versus leaving it blank) then barnyard always tries to login as 'root'. If I leave the sensor name blank, it logs in properly. It does this with multiple sensors.

                  Thanks for the feedback on the sensor name anomaly.  I will look into that.  Could be I have a mistake in the code someplace.  I know I never coded "root" by design, but I do have fat fingers when typing… :(

                  Bill

                  Anytime, and anything I can do to help…

                  The first link you posted fixed the duplicate entry issue - BUT - although I now see events in Snorby, the dashboard is not showing any events, but when I look at events or sensors is shows all the events (I have a few thousand events now).. any ideas?

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                  • BBcan177B
                    BBcan177 Moderator
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                    Hi gscasny,

                    Did you do a full Security Onion install or is this a Virtual Machine ISO boot?

                    Would be interested to know the steps you took to get pfSense to SO working?

                    Are the alerts visible in SGUIL or just Snorby?

                    Appreciate any info you can share.

                    Thanks in advance.

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                      gscasny
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                      @BBcan17:

                      Hi gscasny,

                      Did you do a full Security Onion install or is this a Virtual Machine ISO boot?

                      Would be interested to know the steps you took to get pfSense to SO working?

                      Are the alerts visible in SGUIL or just Snorby?

                      Appreciate any info you can share.

                      Thanks in advance.

                      It's a full install. It's a "Server" install from the "Advanced" install as I run Snort on our edge FW's as sensors. I am logging only to Snorby at the moment, as SGUIL is on my list after OSSEC as we currently use OSSEC at client sites but not via Sec onion…. it bums me a little that SGUIL X windows application only... But I am happy to share any/all info I find out..

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                      • BBcan177B
                        BBcan177 Moderator
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                        S.O. is great. I have OSSEC running on all of my Windows and Linux servers (Works really slick) Let me know if you need any help with that.

                        I run Snort on our edge FW's as sensors.

                        Are these SO sensors or pfSense snort?

                        I'm not sure what you mean by "SGUIL X windows application only"?

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                          gscasny
                          last edited by

                          @BBcan17:

                          S.O. is great. I have OSSEC running on all of my Windows and Linux servers (Works really slick) Let me know if you need any help with that.

                          I run Snort on our edge FW's as sensors.

                          Are these SO sensors or pfSense snort?

                          I'm not sure what you mean by "SGUIL X windows application only"?

                          The sensors are our build of pfsense.

                          SGUIL X win only - meaning I have to run the interface in X, instead of via a web interface like Snorby or ELSA (which I don't use..we use a SIEM product for log storage and correlation)..

                          I really like OSSEC as a host ids.. we have a few installs, but I am looking to standardize the deployment and monitoring of OSSEC along with our IDS sensors and SIEM…

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                          • BBcan177B
                            BBcan177 Moderator
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                            ok. I am using Xrdp for Sguil. Another option is just to load a VM from the live ISO cd and map the ports from there?

                            pfSense

                            What did you use as the Database name and credentials? I thought that SO uses "root" without a password?

                            Enable Barnyard

                            Add Dump payload ?
                            Sensor name = pfsense

                            Enable MySQL

                            hostname = x.x.x.x
                            Database name =
                            Database User =
                            Database password =

                            Advanced Settings ?

                            S.O.

                            In Security Onion, what port do you need to open up in UFW? 8000?

                            I understood that SO only listens on the local host only?

                            Can you detail what you changed in SO?

                            This is my /etc/nsm/<sensor>/barnyard2.conf file

                            config logdir: /nsm/sensor_data/ <sensor>config classification_file: /etc/nsm/<sensor>/classification.config
                            config reference_file:      /etc/nsm/<sensor>/reference.config
                            config sid_file:            /etc/nsm/<sensor>/sid-msg.map
                            config gen_file:            /etc/nsm/<sensor>/gen-msg.map
                            config hostname: <sensor>config interface: eth1
                            input unified2
                            output sguil: sensor_name= <sensor>agent_port=8000
                            output database: alert, mysql, user=root dbname=snorby host=127.0.0.1
                            output alert_syslog: LOG_LOCAL6 LOG_ALERT

                            I predominantly use SGUIL as I think its a total Workhorse of a tool. Ver 0.9.0 was recently released a few weeks ago. I have the Server setup as a single sensor installation and one remote sensor. Wouldn't the pfense Barnyard2 info overlap into the existing sensors info?

                            Wouldn't it be better to setup a separate sensor for pfsense?
                            As I don't use Snorby, I wonder if I could disable events from SO and use that for pfSense? Getting it all into SGUIL would ultimately be the best setup. Wonder if SO iptables could forward the pfsense incoming port to the local host of SO? I dont think I would want to re-compile the SO Barnyard2 application to listen on its actual interface.</sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor>

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                              gscasny
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                              @BBcan17:

                              ok. I am using Xrdp for Sguil. Another option is just to load a VM from the live ISO cd and map the ports from there?

                              pfSense

                              What did you use as the Database name and credentials? I thought that SO uses "root" without a password?

                              Enable Barnyard

                              Add Dump payload ?
                              Sensor name = pfsense

                              Enable MySQL

                              hostname = x.x.x.x
                              Database name =
                              Database User =
                              Database password =

                              Advanced Settings ?

                              S.O.

                              In Security Onion, what port do you need to open up in UFW? 8000?

                              I understood that SO only listens on the local host only?

                              Can you detail what you changed in SO?

                              This is my /etc/nsm/<sensor>/barnyard2.conf file

                              config logdir: /nsm/sensor_data/ <sensor>config classification_file: /etc/nsm/<sensor>/classification.config
                              config reference_file:      /etc/nsm/<sensor>/reference.config
                              config sid_file:            /etc/nsm/<sensor>/sid-msg.map
                              config gen_file:            /etc/nsm/<sensor>/gen-msg.map
                              config hostname: <sensor>config interface: eth1
                              input unified2
                              output sguil: sensor_name= <sensor>agent_port=8000
                              output database: alert, mysql, user=root dbname=snorby host=127.0.0.1
                              output alert_syslog: LOG_LOCAL6 LOG_ALERT

                              I predominantly use SGUIL as I think its a total Workhorse of a tool. Ver 0.9.0 was recently released a few weeks ago. I have the Server setup as a single sensor installation and one remote sensor. Wouldn't the pfense Barnyard2 info overlap into the existing sensors info?

                              Wouldn't it be better to setup a separate sensor for pfsense?
                              As I don't use Snorby, I wonder if I could disable events from SO and use that for pfSense? Getting it all into SGUIL would ultimately be the best setup. Wonder if SO iptables could forward the pfsense incoming port to the local host of SO? I dont think I would want to re-compile the SO Barnyard2 application to listen on its actual interface.</sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor></sensor>

                              Ok - Ill start from the top and work my way down :)

                              xrdp is ok if you are local, but we support alot of customers all over the country and alot don't have the fastest inet connections, so tunneling x win over their links isn't feasible. :)

                              As far as database credentials, SO uses root with no password for local only logins… you can't login a remote sensor with root, nor would you want to, so we create a user per sensor - i.e. location-fw-interface in mysql and only give them privs on the snorby DB.

                              after that we open port 3306 (mysql) ONLY from the sensor to  the security onion box (we delete all other ufw rules except port 444 for snorby), I don't like that SO allows connections from anywhere.

                              You also have to go into /etc/mysql/my.conf  and change the  'bind address' to 0.0.0.0  and then do a 'service restart mysql' - it defaults to 127.0.0.1 which will not allow your remote sensors to connect.

                              We run our main sensors at the perimeter via our build of PFsense as we use the block function of snort on the WAN and LAN via a cutomized ET Pro ruleset and we use pfblocker with several customized ip block lists.. but since snort runs in userspace, we get reports on the blocked ip's via snort. It's important to us to catch, log an block any attacks at the perimeter, which Pfsense is amazingly efficient at.

                              We dont run any sensors on SO at the moment..though I would not mind testing Bro in conjunction with snort as it doesn't use signatures from what we have read.

                              The biggest thing for us is to be able to monitor and alerts exception (high severity) alerts as we monitor alot of networks (hundreds) along with our SIEM to keep any breach attempts to a minimum.

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                              • BBcan177B
                                BBcan177 Moderator
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                                @gscasny:

                                Ok - Ill start from the top and work my way down :)

                                xrdp is ok if you are local, but we support alot of customers all over the country and alot don't have the fastest inet connections, so tunneling x win over their links isn't feasible. :)

                                As far as database credentials, SO uses root with no password for local only logins… you can't login a remote sensor with root, nor would you want to, so we create a user per sensor - i.e. location-fw-interface in mysql and only give them privs on the snorby DB.

                                I found this link    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/466735-security-onion-and-pfsense

                                Does this look correct?

                                ===========================

                                Open the terminal run the following commands

                                This will allow your pfsense to connect through Security Onions firewall to mysql

                                sudo ufw allow proto tcp from xx.xx.xx.xx/32 to any port 3306

                                mysql
                                This should open the prompt for mysql, run the following commands here

                                show databases;
                                Make sure the database snorby exists.

                                This part will setup a user for Barnyard2 to use

                                create user 'sensorname'@'xx.xx.xx.xx' IDENTIFIED BY 'SENSORPASSWORD'

                                grant all privileges on snorby. to 'sensorname'@'xx.xx.xx.xx' with grant option;*

                                flush privileges;

                                exit
                                You should be out of the mysql prompt now, run these commands in terminal

                                This will allow any device to connect to mysql as MySQL will be listening for connections on any IP instead of just the loopback address (assuming its allowed through Security Onions firewall)

                                sudo vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf

                                You should have the mysql config open, use the down arrows to move down until you see the part that says bind-address
                                Move the cursor (The one in the terminal window that indicates where you're typing) to where it says "= 127.0.0.1" and type 'i' (Without the ' )
                                It should say "– INSERT --" at the the bottom of the terminal window
                                Delete 127.0.0.1 and replace it with 0.0.0.0
                                Press 'esc' so that "– INSERT --" is gone, then type ':wq!' and hit return (Without the ' but with the Colon )
                                This should save and exit vi

                                Now run the command

                                sudo mysql restart
                                Wait for the MySQL Service to restart

                                Setup Barnyard2 on pfSense in Snort

                                In web interface for pfSense goto Services > Snort, Under Snort Interfaces Click the Edit button and open the Barnyard2 tab

                                Change and input the following settings in the Log to MySQL Database field

                                output database: alert, mysql, dbname=snorby user=sensorname host=xx.xx.xx.yy password=SENSORPASSWORD
                                Save
                                goto Services > Snort > Snort Interfaces
                                Click the start Icon next under the Barnyard 2 Column, wait for it to go green.

                                ===========================

                                We run our main sensors at the perimeter via our build of PFsense as we use the block function of snort on the WAN and LAN via a cutomized ET Pro ruleset and we use pfblocker with several customized ip block lists.. but since snort runs in userspace, we get reports on the blocked ip's via snort. It's important to us to catch, log an block any attacks at the perimeter, which Pfsense is amazingly efficient at.

                                As SO is using "SALT", it would be good to try to incorporate that into the mix to mange the rules update process. But I guess as pfSense Snort is not using Pulled Pork that might not work? Salt is on the Freebsd ports.

                                Snort now has the IPrep processor which could replace pfBlocker functionality. The current pfsense integration doesn't reload the blocklists automatically when they are updated so will need to wait for the next release to see if that is fixed.

                                We don't run any sensors on SO at the moment..though I would not mind testing Bro in conjunction with snort as it doesn't use signatures from what we have read.

                                The biggest thing for us is to be able to monitor and alerts exception (high severity) alerts as we monitor alot of networks (hundreds) along with our SIEM to keep any breach attempts to a minimum.

                                Will changing mysql to 0.0.0.0 affect SO at all?

                                Getting the pfSense snort into Sguil would make this a whole lot better. The BRO integration would be much better.

                                I need to see if I can get Snorby to only listen to the pfSense boxes and not the local sensor installations.

                                Does pfSense push the full pcaps of the alert to SO Snorby? or just the alert?

                                Thanks for your help.

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                                  bmeeks
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                                  @gscasny:

                                  Anytime, and anything I can do to help…

                                  The first link you posted fixed the duplicate entry issue - BUT - although I now see events in Snorby, the dashboard is not showing any events, but when I look at events or sensors is shows all the events (I have a few thousand events now).. any ideas?

                                  I have seen other posts on Google relative to Snorby and the disappearing of the Dashboard events.  It's something with the background cache jobs if I recall.  I had that problem once several months ago, and some protracted Google searches led me to the fix.  Sorry, but I don't remember exactly what fixed it or I would readily share.

                                  Bill

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                                    bmeeks
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                                    @BBcan17:

                                    Getting the pfSense snort into Sguil would make this a whole lot better. The BRO integration would be much better.

                                    Thanks for your help.

                                    I would love to send Snort's unified2 output to Squil.  The problem is that currently, for some unknown reason, Barnyard2 will only connect to a local Sguil sensor.  I was thinking about submitting a request to the upstream Barnyard2 guys to see if they would make it a remote connection option.  You can set the port, but it always defaults to 127.0.0.1 for the IP address.  That is hard-coded into the Barnyard2 source code.

                                    Bill

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                                    • BBcan177B
                                      BBcan177 Moderator
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                                      @bmeeks:

                                      @BBcan17:

                                      Getting the pfSense snort into Sguil would make this a whole lot better. The BRO integration would be much better.

                                      Thanks for your help.

                                      I would love to send Snort's unified2 output to Squil.  The problem is that currently, for some unknown reason, Barnyard2 will only connect to a local Sguil sensor.  I was thinking about submitting a request to the upstream Barnyard2 guys to see if they would make it a remote connection option.  You can set the port, but it always defaults to 127.0.0.1 for the IP address.  That is hard-coded into the Barnyard2 source code.

                                      Bill

                                      Couldn't IPTABLES forward a listening port to the local port to get that to work?

                                      I agree that recompiling Barnyard2 is not my first option….

                                      EDIT:

                                      Check this link

                                      https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/barnyard2-users/pfsense/barnyard2-users/xf5DMehbdsg/fvWRJZbsrYsJ

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                                        @BBcan17:

                                        @bmeeks:

                                        @BBcan17:

                                        Getting the pfSense snort into Sguil would make this a whole lot better. The BRO integration would be much better.

                                        Thanks for your help.

                                        I would love to send Snort's unified2 output to Squil.  The problem is that currently, for some unknown reason, Barnyard2 will only connect to a local Sguil sensor.  I was thinking about submitting a request to the upstream Barnyard2 guys to see if they would make it a remote connection option.  You can set the port, but it always defaults to 127.0.0.1 for the IP address.  That is hard-coded into the Barnyard2 source code.

                                        Bill

                                        Couldn't IPTABLES forward a listening port to the local port to get that to work?

                                        I agree that recompiling Barnyard2 is not my first option….

                                        EDIT:

                                        Check this link

                                        https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/barnyard2-users/pfsense/barnyard2-users/xf5DMehbdsg/fvWRJZbsrYsJ

                                        Yeah, that first link is the one I found while doing the Suricata package.  I was thinking about just modifying the BY2 source on pfSense, but the Core Team prefers to use plain vanilla ports whenever possible and I can understand why.  It would be better to have the BY2 guys just add an option for remote Sguil connectivity to their code.  It should be an easy option to add.

                                        Bill

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                                          @gscasny:

                                          Ok - Ill start from the top and work my way down :)

                                          xrdp is ok if you are local, but we support alot of customers all over the country and alot don't have the fastest inet connections, so tunneling x win over their links isn't feasible. :)

                                          As far as database credentials, SO uses root with no password for local only logins… you can't login a remote sensor with root, nor would you want to, so we create a user per sensor - i.e. location-fw-interface in mysql and only give them privs on the snorby DB.

                                          I found this link    http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/466735-security-onion-and-pfsense

                                          Does this look correct?

                                          ===========================

                                          Open the terminal run the following commands

                                          This will allow your pfsense to connect through Security Onions firewall to mysql

                                          sudo ufw allow proto tcp from xx.xx.xx.xx/32 to any port 3306

                                          mysql
                                          This should open the prompt for mysql, run the following commands here

                                          show databases;
                                          Make sure the database snorby exists.

                                          This part will setup a user for Barnyard2 to use

                                          create user 'sensorname'@'xx.xx.xx.xx' IDENTIFIED BY 'SENSORPASSWORD'

                                          grant all privileges on snorby. to 'sensorname'@'xx.xx.xx.xx' with grant option;*

                                          flush privileges;

                                          exit
                                          You should be out of the mysql prompt now, run these commands in terminal

                                          This will allow any device to connect to mysql as MySQL will be listening for connections on any IP instead of just the loopback address (assuming its allowed through Security Onions firewall)

                                          sudo vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf

                                          You should have the mysql config open, use the down arrows to move down until you see the part that says bind-address
                                          Move the cursor (The one in the terminal window that indicates where you're typing) to where it says "= 127.0.0.1" and type 'i' (Without the ' )
                                          It should say "– INSERT --" at the the bottom of the terminal window
                                          Delete 127.0.0.1 and replace it with 0.0.0.0
                                          Press 'esc' so that "– INSERT --" is gone, then type ':wq!' and hit return (Without the ' but with the Colon )
                                          This should save and exit vi

                                          Now run the command

                                          sudo mysql restart
                                          Wait for the MySQL Service to restart

                                          Setup Barnyard2 on pfSense in Snort

                                          In web interface for pfSense goto Services > Snort, Under Snort Interfaces Click the Edit button and open the Barnyard2 tab

                                          Change and input the following settings in the Log to MySQL Database field

                                          output database: alert, mysql, dbname=snorby user=sensorname host=xx.xx.xx.yy password=SENSORPASSWORD
                                          Save
                                          goto Services > Snort > Snort Interfaces
                                          Click the start Icon next under the Barnyard 2 Column, wait for it to go green.

                                          ===========================

                                          We run our main sensors at the perimeter via our build of PFsense as we use the block function of snort on the WAN and LAN via a cutomized ET Pro ruleset and we use pfblocker with several customized ip block lists.. but since snort runs in userspace, we get reports on the blocked ip's via snort. It's important to us to catch, log an block any attacks at the perimeter, which Pfsense is amazingly efficient at.

                                          As SO is using "SALT", it would be good to try to incorporate that into the mix to mange the rules update process. But I guess as pfSense Snort is not using Pulled Pork that might not work? Salt is on the Freebsd ports.

                                          Snort now has the IPrep processor which could replace pfBlocker functionality. The current pfsense integration doesn't reload the blocklists automatically when they are updated so will need to wait for the next release to see if that is fixed.

                                          We don't run any sensors on SO at the moment..though I would not mind testing Bro in conjunction with snort as it doesn't use signatures from what we have read.

                                          The biggest thing for us is to be able to monitor and alerts exception (high severity) alerts as we monitor alot of networks (hundreds) along with our SIEM to keep any breach attempts to a minimum.

                                          Will changing mysql to 0.0.0.0 affect SO at all?

                                          Getting the pfSense snort into Sguil would make this a whole lot better. The BRO integration would be much better.

                                          I need to see if I can get Snorby to only listen to the pfSense boxes and not the local sensor installations.

                                          Does pfSense push the full pcaps of the alert to SO Snorby? or just the alert?

                                          Thanks for your help.

                                          Everything looks good but I will make a few comments:
                                          You really don't need "GRANT" options with the sensor user from what I can see.. no need to add extra vulnerabilities if not needed, no matter how remote.
                                          Changing the mysql bind address to 0.0.0.0 just tell's mysql to listen on all interfaces… if you have more than 1 you can force it to listed on a specific interface by putting that interface's IP address as the bind address instead.

                                          SQUIL is good for looking at all alerts in detail, but we look more for exceptions and then if we see an issue dig into the SIEM for details, unless they are obvious from the snort alerts.

                                          If you install SO as a "Server" instead of a "Sensor" or "Both" it will run as a collector versus a sensor (no local instances of snort or suricata).

                                          PFsense just pushes the alerts, no pcap data from what we use.

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                                          • BBcan177B
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                                            @gscasny:

                                            SQUIL is good for looking at all alerts in detail, but we look more for exceptions and then if we see an issue dig into the SIEM for details, unless they are obvious from the snort alerts.

                                            If you install SO as a "Server" instead of a "Sensor" or "Both" it will run as a collector versus a sensor (no local instances of snort or suricata).

                                            PFsense just pushes the alerts, no pcap data from what we use.

                                            Once you F8 (categorize) events in SGUIL or Snorby you need ELSA or another SIEM to do the rest of the detective work. ELSA is really nice can pivot on Snort/Suricata/BRO/OSSEC/Sancp/pads and Syslogs. I push all of my pfSense syslogs (Firewall and Syslogs) to ELSA.

                                            pfSense needs a one-line patch to get it to work properly with ELSA.
                                            http://files.pfsense.org/jimp/patches/pf-log-oneline-option-2.1.1.diff

                                            If you arent getting the full pcap you are missing a lot of info. This is why I like Security Onions Distributed Architecture. The Sensors can be deployed anywhere. All of the local devices push their data to the remote SO Sensor and the sensor records all of the info locally. Than from the SO Server, it can pull as required from any of the sensors. So SGUIL or Snorby will be able to read the full packet capture from any of the remote sites without having a large footprint.

                                            Also SO uses SALT which can manage all of the RULES for all of the Sensors and it makes life a lot easier.

                                            If we can get the full Pcap from pfSense into SO, that would be a big help to manage False Positives. Managing several devices under one umbrella makes life a little easier so we can spend our time analyzing versus configuring and updated all over the place.

                                            Hopefully we can convince (nudge nudge) Mr. Meeks in helping get pfSense to work well with SO??  ;)  ;)

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