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    Wifi dual mode 2,4Ghz and 5Ghz

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      nscheffer
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      Currently using pfSense 2.1.2 on the APU1C. I am evaluating the 2.2 ALPHA and i try to understand how to use a miniPCI Express wifi card like the WLE200NX to have both 2,4Ghz and 5Ghz radio enabled at the same time :

      • may i need to create both interfaces under the Wireless pane into the Interfaces menu with one running bgn 2,4Ghz and the other an 5ghz ?
      • or i need to add a new interface on the Interfaces assignments for one radio like 2,4Ghz and add the other radio on the Wireless pane or Interfaces assignments ?

      I am confused how to setup this properly with the correct pfSense-FreeBSD behavior. My first test force in any case to have the same radio running for all interfaces created…

      Thanks in advance for your help.

      Regards

      Nicolas

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      • GruensFroeschliG
        GruensFroeschli
        last edited by

        You need two wireless cards in order to operate on 2.4GHz and 5GHz simultaneously.
        Simply assign the two cards as you would assign any other network card.

        We do what we must, because we can.

        Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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          nscheffer
          last edited by

          Ok, thank you.
          This why on the Enterprise AP with external antennas running 3x3 MIMO you have in fact 6 antennas (3x for 2,4ghz and 3x for 5Ghz) ?

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          • GruensFroeschliG
            GruensFroeschli
            last edited by

            Yes that is the reason.
            Often if you have consumer grade dual-band APs with only 3 antennas, then these antennas are only for 5GHz. The 2.4 GHz antennas are in such devices small onboard antennas (basically a wire on the circuit board).
            This is because you have 6db less attenuation over the air for the same distance on 2.4 than on 5.

            We do what we must, because we can.

            Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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              Guest
              last edited by

              In theory, the equivalent free space path loss exponents for the ISM and U-NII bands would be about 7 dB in favor of the ISM band for all distances.  In actual measurement, these tend to be about 4 dB, again in favor of the ISM band.  That 3 dB difference is directly attributable to the fact that for a given antenna aperture, that antenna is electrically "larger" to a signal at 5GHz than one at 2.4GHz.

              From memory, over a 1-10 m range the best fit path loss exponents for the two bands are both 1.9 for line-of-sight geometries.  In theory, this can't be better than 2.0 for LOS in a clear field.

              For non-LOS geometries, the best fit path loss exponents determined from actual measurements over a 3-14 m range are 3.7 and 4.6 for ISM and U-NII bands, respectively.

              Propagation losses caused by one wall are 4.2 dB greater for the U-NII bands than for the ISM band.

              Loss through flooring is typically 1.5 dB greater for the U-NII bands.

              None of this even begins to account for the overly-noisy spectrum in the ISM band.  When the noise floor is -88dBm for the ISM band, and still -105 dBm for the U-NII bands, you'll still be ahead running 802.11a over 802.11g.

              Note that 802.11ac (NO SUPPORT IN ANY VERSION OF PFSENSE) will be 3-6 dB better than any 802.11n mode (2.2 pfSense required) due to the inherent beamforming in 802.11ac.

              Not that I know anything about beamforming.

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                aekvulture
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                Hello everyone. Have a question about WiFi. I want to buy this WiFi card - "Compex WLE900VX Atheros QCA9880 minipci-e 802.11AC" with the future support 802.11ac standard. I think that sometime in the future support 802.11ac will appear in pfsense. If I put on ATH10K driver will it work normally in the range of 802.11n on pfsense 2.2?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  ath10k is a Linux driver and will not work at all for pfSense which is built on FreeBSD.
                  I don't believe there is any support for the QCA9880 chipset in FreeBSD currently.

                  Steve

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