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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      You shouldn't have a gateway on the LAN interface. Putting one in is the common mistake.  ;)
      If you try to ping, say, google.com and 8.8.8.8 from the pfSense console what is the error given?

      Steve

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        cpjitservices
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        ok if I set it up how I did it before with just a GW on the WAN from my ISP, if I ping google I get failed pings.

        Ping output:
        PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) from 77.86.33.157: 56 data bytes

        –- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
        3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

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          cpjitservices
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          At present the only interface that has a GW is WAN, to get internet access I have to set the WAN IP to '192.168.1.253' with a GW of '192.168.1.254' then I get internet access… but I'd rather have pfsense do all of the routing and only have the Thomson as a Modem.

          When my Static External address is set via DHCP still no internet access.

          Puzzled :S :o

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            verigoth
            last edited by

            Wait your WAN IP is 192.168.1.x? Then you need to uncheck the box on the WAN interface that says, "Block private networks" AND use a different subnet (e.g. 192.168.2.x) on the LAN interface.

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              cpjitservices
              last edited by

              ^^^^ done both of those… using 192.168.2.0/24 on my lan and have unchecked the box ... it works its only when I use DHCP on the WAN and get my EXTERNAL IP when it doesnt.

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                verigoth
                last edited by

                Is it a static address or is it DHCP? If it is static you need to assign a gateway. If it's DHCP verify that it gets a gateway and DNS servers (Status -> Interfaces - Gateway IPv4 and ISP DNS servers).

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  @cpjitservices:

                  if I ping google I get failed pings.

                  So it resolves google.com to it's IP? DNS is working?

                  Steve

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                    cpjitservices
                    last edited by

                    Hi,

                    If I ping - It fails. I posted the output in a previous post.

                    I'm using DHCP when it doesnt work.. My IP (External Static from ISP) gets assigned to WAN interface, My ISP's gateways also appear in Gateways and I also receive the DNS Server IP's.

                    IF I set a manual address of '192.168.1.253' on my WAN and a GW of '192.168.1.254' I get Internet access.

                    As setup in the images - my Internet works - As soon as I set my WAN to DHCP I no longer get internet access and no idea why.

                    Thanks in advance for all of your help - I appreciate it.

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                      cpjitservices
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                      Hi all,

                      I have done some screenshots of DHCP on WAN side.

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                        cpjitservices
                        last edited by

                        For some reason when DHCP is set on WAN, i get IP on interface and receive gateway from ISP but that gateway cannot be reached.

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                          cpjitservices
                          last edited by

                          Any help most appreciated guys!!

                          Thanks!!

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            The reason I asked you to ping google.com as well as 8.8.8.8 was to determine if DNS was working. At this point it's probably not relevent since pinging by IP didn't work but the first thing that you see when pinging by URL is:

                            [2.1.3-RELEASE][root@pfsense.fire.box]/root(1): ping google.com
                            PING google.com (173.194.34.174): 56 data bytes
                            64 bytes from 173.194.34.174: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=13.773 ms
                            
                            

                            You can see that it has resolved the url to an IP.

                            I notice that the IP you're given when set to DHCP on WAN is still a private address in the 10.0.0.0/8 range. Is that the same type of address that the Thompsom router gets if it's connecting without pfSense?

                            Steve

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              If your ISP really is handing out 10/8 IPs, if it's doing CGN for example, then you may have to disable the firewall in the ST510. You probably want to do that anyway.

                              http://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0000210.htm

                              If having selected to assign the public IP to a device in the router you can still access the internet by using the routers lan side subnet details manually then I would suggest it has not correctly assigned the public IP.

                              Steve

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                                cpjitservices
                                last edited by

                                Yes, My ISP's gateway is in the 10. range. (Private range) my thomson router has a 10.0.0.138 IP but this cannot be reached at all when I set my WAN to DHCP.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  What subnet is your ISP handing the WAN?
                                  Some ISPs are now handing out /32 subnets via DHCP which is not a standards compliant configuration. Other OSes allow this configuration (Windows, some Linux distros) but FreeBSD does not. There is a workaround.

                                  Steve

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                                    cpjitservices
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                                    I believe it's a /30.

                                    Not entirely sure - you've got to realize that the ISP we are dealing with here isn;t your usual ISP, they do things very differently.

                                    I'm within this range.

                                    https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?searchtext=77.86.33.157&searchSubmit=search#resultsAnchor

                                    I'll be honest I think it's a slash /30 but it COULD be A /32

                                    Anyway I can find out ??

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah, the broadband principality of Hull!  ;)

                                      The address in that link is not handed to you then?

                                      Go to Status: Interfaces: in the webgui. All the details handed to you should be there.

                                      Steve

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                                        cpjitservices
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                                        Screenies:

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                                          cpjitservices
                                          last edited by

                                          Any Ideas ?

                                          And thanks by the way I appreciate the help - I'd love to get this working… If I can!!!

                                          I'm lost, I cant think of anything else to try!!

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                                            cpjitservices
                                            last edited by

                                            Would the following work.

                                            I assign an IP on my WAN for example 77.86.33.156….

                                            And my Gateway set that to... the actual IP that I get from DHCP from my ISP ?

                                            Would/Should that work  ?

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