Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Can't Get It Working

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
    29 Posts 7 Posters 5.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • stephenw10S Offline
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      When you first configure pfSense the first interface is labelled WAN and the second is labelled LAN. Subsequent interfaces are labelled OPT1, OPT2, OPT3 etc. I point this out because yo can rename the interfaces anything you want and you have referred to both your internal interfaces as LAN. The first LAN interface has a firewall rule setup by default to allow out all traffic originating from that subnet, the "Default allow LAN to any rule". So you do not need to add any further rules to the LAN interface in order to get internet access. If you look at Firewall: Rules: LAN(tab) in the webgui you will see it as well as a rule to prevent you getting locked out of the webgui.

      Only the LAN has that default rule. All other traffic must be explicitly allowed by rules you've added.

      Steve

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • B Offline
        bluegrass
        last edited by

        @stephenw10:

        When you first configure pfSense the first interface is labelled WAN and the second is labelled LAN. Subsequent interfaces are labelled OPT1, OPT2, OPT3 etc. I point this out because yo can rename the interfaces anything you want and you have referred to both your internal interfaces as LAN. The first LAN interface has a firewall rule setup by default to allow out all traffic originating from that subnet, the "Default allow LAN to any rule". So you do not need to add any further rules to the LAN interface in order to get internet access. If you look at Firewall: Rules: LAN(tab) in the webgui you will see it as well as a rule to prevent you getting locked out of the webgui.

        Only the LAN has that default rule. All other traffic must be explicitly allowed by rules you've added.

        Steve

        Yeah, my second LAN is labeled OPT1. Specifically, what do I need to do to OPT1 to get it set up like the LAN port?

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • C Offline
          cthomas
          last edited by

          You'll need to add a firewall rule to OPT1 to permit traffic to egress that network;

          PASS
          IPv4
          source "OPT1 net"
          source port ANY
          destination ANY
          destination port ANY

          Keep in mind that LAN and OPT1 will be able to communicate because both the LAN and OPT1 have rules that "Permit ANY".  If you want to block this, you'll need to add a rule on LAN that says 'BLOCK LAN net to OPT1 net', and on OPT1 that says 'BLOCK OPT1 net to LAN net'.  These 'Block' rules will need to be placed ABOVE the Permit ANY rule.

          -ct

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • D Offline
            divsys
            last edited by

            You can probably get away with going into Firewall->Rules->LAN and clicking on the "+" besides the  "Default allow LAN to any rule", which will copy that rule and make a new one you can change. It will take you into the details and you can simply change the Interface from LAN to OPT1.

            Save it, Apply changes, then your good to go.

            Edit:
            As per cthomas, if you want to BLOCK traffic, you can add further rules to LAN,OPT1 or both.

            -jfp

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              @divsys:

              You can probably get away with going into Firewall->Rules->LAN and clicking on the "+" besides the  "Default allow LAN to any rule", which will copy that rule and make a new one you can change.

              Ah, it's never occurred to me that you could do that. You learn something everyday.  :)
              However you will also have to change the source address from LAN net to OPT1 net.

              Steve

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • D Offline
                divsys
                last edited by

                Yes, the source address change is one of those "oh yeah, don't forget to change that too…" I remember when I'm  looking at the rule sheet - not while I'm typing  :(

                Thanks for the catch  :)

                -jfp

                -jfp

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • B Offline
                  bluegrass
                  last edited by

                  Ok, I'm able to access the internet through both LAN ports on my firewall HOWEVER, I can also access the web GUI on either port using either IP address. No matter which LAN port I'm on I can sign in to the GUI with 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.3.1

                  That shouldn't be happening, right?

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    That is the expected behaviour if you have 'allow any' rules on each LAN interface.

                    Steve

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • B Offline
                      bluegrass
                      last edited by

                      I tried changing the "allow any" rule to "allow WAN subnet to LAN1 subnet" but then I can't access anything over that port. I put back the allow any rule and it works but I can also access both ports from either again.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • D Offline
                        divsys
                        last edited by

                        @bluegrass:

                        I tried changing the "allow any" rule to "allow WAN subnet to LAN1 subnet" but then I can't access anything over that port. I put back the allow any rule and it works but I can also access both ports from either again.

                        If you're just trying to stop LAN from seeing OPT1 (and vice versa), you can add a LAN1 rule:

                        "Allow LAN to NOT OPT1 subnet"

                        And similarly on OPT1

                        "Allow OPT1 to NOT LAN"

                        Depends on what you're trying to acheive

                        -jfp

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yep. Or you can explicitly block access to the OPT1 interface address from the LAN subnet with a block rule placed above the 'allow any' rule. Then you can still access devices on OPT1 from LAN.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • B Offline
                            bluegrass
                            last edited by

                            I'm not sure if I'm doing this right so here's a screen cap of what I did. There was no change.

                            fhgf.JPG
                            fhgf.JPG_thumb

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • johnpozJ Online
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              So you want to BLOCK going anywhere but that lan segment?  That is what that rule would do.

                              Post your lan rules so we can see exactly what other rules you have in place, etc.  That rule by itself would block everything but the lan segment.  So you would not be able to go to the internet..  Is that what your after?

                              An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                              Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                              SG-4860 25.07.1 | Lab VMs 2.8, 25.07.1

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • ? This user is from outside of this forum
                                Guest
                                last edited by

                                Enter firewall block rules on the "LAN" or "OPT1" for port 80 and 443 from "LAN" or "OPT1" to "IP of ROUTER", then nobody can reach the interface from this LAN / OPT1

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • stephenw10S Offline
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Hmm, that rule is definitely wrong. It will never (or should never) match any traffic as you will never see any packets going into the LAN interface that have source 'SERVER subnet'.

                                  What exactly are you trying to achieve?

                                  Steve

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • johnpozJ Online
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    I didn't even catch the server source ;)  Yeah that would never even trigger.

                                    An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                    If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                    Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                                    SG-4860 25.07.1 | Lab VMs 2.8, 25.07.1

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • B Offline
                                      bluegrass
                                      last edited by

                                      What I'm trying to do is keep the SERVER and LAN ports from being able to communicate with each other.

                                      I don't want anyone on my home network to accidently get access to my little web server and screw something up. And I don't want any traffic for the server getting onto my home network.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • B Offline
                                        bluegrass
                                        last edited by

                                        Ok I think I got it fixed. I looked in the 'Definitive Guide to PFSense' and it said: "Rules in PFSense are applied on a per-interface basis, always in the inbound direction on that interface. This means traffic initiated from the LAN is filtered using the LAN interface rules.Traffic initiated from the Internet is filtered with the WAN interface rules."

                                        So I changed the source on Server TO server and source on LAN to LAN and now the two ports don't appear to be able to access each other.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • stephenw10S Offline
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Sounds good.
                                          If you're in any doubt post up some screen shots of your rules.  :)

                                          Steve

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • B Offline
                                            bluegrass
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok, here's the rules for my LAN and SERVER ports.

                                            ![LAN Rules 2.JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/LAN Rules 2.JPG)
                                            ![LAN Rules 2.JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/LAN Rules 2.JPG_thumb)
                                            ![Server Rules 2.JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Server Rules 2.JPG)
                                            ![Server Rules 2.JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Server Rules 2.JPG_thumb)
                                            ![LAN Rules.JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/LAN Rules.JPG)
                                            ![LAN Rules.JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/LAN Rules.JPG_thumb)
                                            ![Server Rules.JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Server Rules.JPG)
                                            ![Server Rules.JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Server Rules.JPG_thumb)

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.