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    Can ping to LAN but not Web Configurator

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      I have setup pfsense I don't know how many times going back to very early version 1.x - running devolpment versions, etc. etc.  Hardware and VM from everything to virtualbox, to vmware server 1, vmware server 2, esxi version 3.5 through 5.5

      Have never seen it not just work out of the box.  So here is the thing - is anything else connected to this switch, does the switch have an IP on it or just dumb switch.

      Validate the MAC address pfsense has for its lan interface, and the mac address your pinging.  On pfsense do a netstat do you see the web gui running?

      [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(7): ps -ax | grep lighty
      46888  ??  S      0:17.64 /usr/local/sbin/lighttpd -f /var/etc/lighty-webConfigurator.conf

      [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(9): netstat -an | grep .80
      tcp6      0      0 *.80                  .                    LISTEN
      tcp4      0      0 *.80                  .                    LISTEN

      [2.1.5-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root(10): ifconfig

      vmx3f1: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
              options=403bb <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,jumbo_mtu,vlan_hwcsum,tso4,tso6,vlan_hwtso>ether 00:0c:29:1e:18:ae
              inet 192.168.1.253 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255

      And again - run wireshark on the box your trying to connect to pfsense on.. What does it show?  I would really look to your browser being setup to use a proxy, and not set to bypass for local network, or infected.  You don't have anything installed on this pfsense install like squid or snort, etc.?  Its clean - and your saying its routing internet traffic - but you can not connect to even run the first setup wizard and change the pfsense password, etc.</rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,jumbo_mtu,vlan_hwcsum,tso4,tso6,vlan_hwtso></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>

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        kejianshi
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        Interesting idea that maybe something else is interfering…

        Unplug the switch.  Plug the computer directly into the pfsense LAN with nothing else attached then give it a try.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          ^ for all we know for his switch he is using some soho routers switch ports and it has an IP of 192.168.1.1, which you would think he would get that web gui.  But when something doesn't work that you think should be working, it takes 2 seconds to validate your actually talking to the correct something.  Have run into duplicate IPs too many times to not validate the mac.

          I would think more likely reason is that his browser is just using some proxy..

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Some devices do not redirect to https when you try to use http and behave like this.
            If you had two devices trying to be 192.168.1.1 would you get ping response in both directions? Especially if one of them was the switch.

            Steve

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              no you could get answer to ping

              so from 192.168.1.100 I ping 192.168.1.1 but get mac of say the switch IP..  He answers.  When you ping the 100 from pfsense .1 he pings the mac of .100 and .100 send answer to the mac that asked.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Hmm, yes layer 2/3 difference. The MAC would show though as you've been saying.

                Steve

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                  SKT174
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for all the input guys, really appreciated.

                  As suggested, I've taken out the switch, now directly connect my notebook to LAN interface (white cable , UE1 on pfsense), WAN (UE0) still the same Red Cable

                  I followed the instructions as shown to me

                  I can't confirm the MAC address as the J5 creator doesn't print the MAC on the unit nor the package it came with

                  I've checked my Proxy setting to make sure

                  I've installed Wireshark and as soon as I go to the pfsense box (192.168.1.1) I get the RED text on Black shown in Wireshark

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                    SKT174
                    last edited by

                    Oh I forgot to mentioned . Yes I've connected to another pfsense box to that address in the past.

                    And .. I've also tried connecting using another Desktop PC, same results.

                    It is a clean install, it doesn't route internet traffic yet, WAN interface is connected but I can't access internet on my notebook.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Hmm, weird. Looks like the pfSense box is replying but your laptop is ignoring the replies. Perhaps.  :-\

                      Are you able to browse other external sites? Ping external addresses? In other words is routing working?

                      I notice your WAN interface has auto-negotiated to 10Mb which is odd but shouldn't be causing this.

                      Steve

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        I've installed Wireshark and as soon as I go to the pfsense box (192.168.1.1) I get the RED text on Black shown in Wireshark

                        SYN from you
                        SYN,ACK from pfSense
                        ACK from you should be next.  It's not there so you aren't getting the webConfigurator.

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                          SKT174
                          last edited by

                          So .. just to be sure I'm not doing anything stupid…

                          I've wipe & Re-Install PFsense again.

                          I selected option 1

                          I selected option I

                          And it is still not working for some strange reason.

                          The routing isn't working either as I can't access external internet.

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                            kejianshi
                            last edited by

                            More USB ethernet…

                            Trouble shooting these setups is always hard when they are so simple and yet things refuse to work, but I don't like USB ethernet, and I'm sure its working for some people in some installations, but up to this point, its the most likely culprit I've noticed.  You don't have even a single built in NIC?

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                              SKT174
                              last edited by

                              I'm thinking whether it's those USB ethernet adapter is causing it.  I'll see if I can try another brand and see if it makes any difference.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Hard to believe it would work with ICMP but not TCP.
                                As Derelict said your client is not responding. This appears to be a client side issue. Yet you say you tried a different client? Different browser?

                                Steve

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                  You want to check that "Block private networks" is unchecked on your WAN interface.  I don't know if the installer does that by default if it detects a private WAN address.

                                  Is that wireshark capture a few messages back taken from the 192.168.1.100 windows client?  If so, you need to figure out why it is not sending an ACK in reply to the SYN,ACK sent by pfSense in the connection process before you waste any more time looking at pfSense.

                                  Or, as has been mentioned, USB ethernet interfaces: not a fan.  BUT if they're mucking up the works, it should show in the SYN,ACK captured by wireshark.

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                                  • ?
                                    Guest
                                    last edited by

                                    If you look at "Valid interfaces are" the answer is:

                                    Probably not…

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah.  More likely some software firewall or antivirus or ? on the windows pc.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        You will notice that the connection just kind of dies.. Not only do you see retrans from pfsense you call see retrans from .100 to .1

                                        It is not answering dns queries either..

                                        Juts for be complete - how you would verify the mac your pinging is to look in your arp table on the .100 box

                                        So

                                        C:>arp -a

                                        Interface: 192.168.1.100 –- 0xc
                                          Internet Address      Physical Address      Type
                                          169.254.7.80          00-26-24-08-8a-ed    dynamic
                                          169.254.82.185        00-1c-c3-09-05-7a    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.3          00-0c-29-c8-f2-dc    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.7          00-0c-29-dd-02-ba    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.8          00-0c-29-55-4f-95    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.40          00-1f-29-54-17-14    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.97          00-26-24-08-8a-ed    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.98          00-1c-c3-09-05-7a    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.99          00-06-dc-43-ad-78    dynamic
                                          192.168.1.253        00-0c-29-1e-18-ae    static
                                          192.168.1.255        ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff    static
                                          224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16    static
                                          239.255.255.250      01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa    static

                                        You notice from my workstation that is the mac I saw on my ifconfig..

                                        Your sniff is odd.. You see 3 different connections to 80..  And yes you see the syn-ack back, but you never send ack?  And actually start the conversation..  And then you just see a bunch of retrans

                                        You see retrans from pfsense sending his syn-ack because he never got back the ack.. And you see .100 sending back his syn because seems he thinks he never got the syn-ack.

                                        Need to figure out why your client .100 did not send back ACK to the syn-ack he was clearly sent and seen by wireshark for the 3 different connections you tried to create to http (80)

                                        Do you have another client you can try?

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                          MACs will also be in your wireshark captures.

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            yeah in there it looks right

                                            to where he is sending the request for 80

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