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    Changing my apu 1c to something else, suggestions - 500mbit fiber.

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    • ?
      Guest
      last edited by

      Greetings Lars,

      I am assuming that you are talking about a corporate network and not a home install. Right?
      Assuming so:

      In order to handle 500 Mb/s comfortably (in sustained flow) you would probably need a 1.5 to 2 GHz processor to begin with.
      For a system like pfSense which is built on top of FreeBSD you would probably want to have a quad core to handle your traffic and firewall operations more smoothly. (There are some other factors like the non-multiplexed memory and system interface buses, etc. but I'll spare you the pain)

      Now, this is assuming that your box is not doing additional things like proxy cashing, virus scanning, etc.

      You might also want to throw in as much RAM as possible, starting with 4GB, which by today's standards is not a big thing.

      If I had to build such a router/firewall I would start with a barebones PC in a standard chassis and experiment a bit with more or less memory, different processor speeds etc.

      Why not to throw in the best and the most of everything along with the kitchen sink you may ask?
      Well, more clock speed, more memory, more CPU cores come at a price in terms of energy consumption. You might want to minimize that.

      One thing I can tell you almost for sure, you're not going to drive your 500 megabit per second with a box that consumes 10 watts. And the problem is that the performance curve is not linear but exponential. Meaning that if a 100 Mb/s router box requires x processing power and energy, a 200 Mb/s box requires more than twice x (typically an additional 10 to 15% which grows with the performance level)

      In turn a question for you: I am curious to know how much they charge you for a 300 Mb/s or 500 Mb/s fiber connection in your area and what kind of CPE (customer premises equipment) they are installing.

      Good luck,
      Halea

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        n3c
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        Hello good people,

        thanks for fast reply. been away but saw the post now.

        This is for my home connection, planning on 1gbit in a half year / year I guess.

        They have just put everything up here atm and I couldnt be promised a 1gbit yet.

        Yeah thats the thing why im wondering about the quad core. 
        Because I want to have a freenas aswell or server in my network as well.

        I need it to atleast push 500mbit stable. The router that followed delievers over 530mbit ( zyxxel ) but its optimized for 1 pc and several TV`s, I do NOT like the interface on the router.
        Its very limited.

        But the thing is, I find it quite "wasteful" to use a tower pc just for using as a router. Living in a kinda small apartment so trying to save a little bit space and sound levels down.

        Saw an upgrade package with i5 quad , 8gb ram -  Going to order intel nics used from server @ ebay.

        Suggestion? Maybe I just need to step up and buy a midi tower and just get some good hardware, kinda guess its good for the future.

        1u server is out of the question because of the fan noise =/

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Here's a thread detailing a 1Gbps capable build:
          https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=45439.0
          As you'll see the cpu requirements just to firewall/NAT 1Gbps are not too stringent. If you are running packages or VPNs etc that would put the requirements up considerably.

          Steve

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            fragged
            last edited by

            Would pfSense 2.2's faster pf be enough to push the APU1C to ~500 Mbps range?

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            • ?
              Guest
              last edited by

              @fragged:

              Would pfSense 2.2's faster pf be enough to push the APU1C to ~500 Mbps range?

              450Mbps or so with raw FreeBSD.  400Mbps or so with pfSense (ALTQ has its price).

              Might want to look at these in about 10 weeks: http://store.netgate.com/Production-Boards-C209.aspx

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                As others have commented the 430Mbps figure given in the first post is significantly higher than most people have acheived. I believe most reported something around 350Mbps so 400 under 2.2 is a step up.

                Steve

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                • ?
                  Guest
                  last edited by

                  I have a 1Gbps/1Gbps fiber circuit to my house.  I run a 7551 currently (soon one of the ADI boards).

                  1Gbps/1Gbps is nice.  If I ran an APU I would get less than 1/2 that.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    @gonzopancho:

                    1Gbps/1Gbps is nice.

                    Ha! I can only dream of that sort of bandwidth at home.  :)

                    Steve

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                    • GruensFroeschliG
                      GruensFroeschli
                      last edited by

                      I'm about to get 1gbit fiber at home as well.
                      I'll still be using the APU but with an intel dual gbit mini pcie card.
                      The measurements i did show me about 650mbit/s without any tuning.
                      I guess with the intel cards i should be able to use some hardware offload features.

                      We do what we must, because we can.

                      Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Impressive. That's running 2.2?

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                        • GruensFroeschliG
                          GruensFroeschli
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                          Yes. With one of the early alphas.

                          https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=59555.msg405522#msg405522

                          I should retest this again with a newer version ^^;

                          We do what we must, because we can.

                          Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                            yaw
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                            @gonzopancho:

                            I have a 1Gbps/1Gbps fiber circuit to my house.  I run a 7551 currently (soon one of the ADI boards).

                            1Gbps/1Gbps is nice.  If I ran an APU I would get less than 1/2 that.

                            How's the 7551 handle the gigabit connection? Is there much headroom left on the CPU?

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                              Guest
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                              not a ton, at least, not the way I test things (very small packets).

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