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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      Yep, I'm running 2.2 on my XTM5, no problems.

      Sorry I was unclear about those options. It's the same file, both are from the ISO CD image.
      When you install you get given a choice of which kernel you'd like to use. The only difference between them is that the 'standard' kernel uses the monitor and keyboard for its console and the 'embedded' kernel uses the serial port.

      Choosing the embedded kernel seems like the right choice there, because the XTM5 has a serial console port, but that does mean that you can't boot the laptop into pfSense from the HD to test it, not necessarily a problem.

      If you choose the standard kernel you can still enable a serial console afterwards using an option in the gui.

      I have used both before, though not in the XTM5, and they work equally well.

      Steve

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        pglover19
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        @stephenw10:

        Yep, I'm running 2.2 on my XTM5, no problems.

        Sorry I was unclear about those options. It's the same file, both are from the ISO CD image.
        When you install you get given a choice of which kernel you'd like to use. The only difference between them is that the 'standard' kernel uses the monitor and keyboard for its console and the 'embedded' kernel uses the serial port.

        Choosing the embedded kernel seems like the right choice there, because the XTM5 has a serial console port, but that does mean that you can't boot the laptop into pfSense from the HD to test it, not necessarily a problem.

        If you choose the standard kernel you can still enable a serial console afterwards using an option in the gui.

        I have used both before, though not in the XTM5, and they work equally well.

        Steve

        During the initial installation, pfsense will ask me for the LAN and WAN interface name based on the current hardware that I am running the installation on. Will those interface names be different in the local PC/laptop versus the XTM5 device therefore preventing me from using the initial setup configuration in the XTM 5 machine? Please advise.

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          pglover19
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          @pglover19:

          @stephenw10:

          Yep, I'm running 2.2 on my XTM5, no problems.

          Sorry I was unclear about those options. It's the same file, both are from the ISO CD image.
          When you install you get given a choice of which kernel you'd like to use. The only difference between them is that the 'standard' kernel uses the monitor and keyboard for its console and the 'embedded' kernel uses the serial port.

          Choosing the embedded kernel seems like the right choice there, because the XTM5 has a serial console port, but that does mean that you can't boot the laptop into pfSense from the HD to test it, not necessarily a problem.

          If you choose the standard kernel you can still enable a serial console afterwards using an option in the gui.

          I have used both before, though not in the XTM5, and they work equally well.

          Steve

          During the initial installation, pfsense will ask me for the LAN and WAN interface name based on the current hardware that I am running the installation on. Will those interface names be different in the local PC/laptop versus the XTM5 device therefore preventing me from using the initial setup configuration in the XTM 5 machine? Please advise.

          OK… During the pfsense installation process using my laptop to install the software on a hard drive that will eventually be installed in the XTM5 machine, I assume I need to stop at the reboot screen so I don't get to the screen for the setup of the WAN and LAN interface. When my XTM5 box arrives, I will install the hard drive in the XTM5 machine, boot from the hard drive and I should now see the reboot screen. I will reboot and now I should be able to setup the WAN and LAN interface on the XTM5 machine. Is that the proper procedure?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yes, that's it. As long as you've chosen the embedded kernel (in 2.1.5) or are using 2.2 64bit then the initial interface assign screen will appear on the console when you boot the drive in the XTM5.

            Steve

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              pglover19
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              @stephenw10:

              Yes, that's it. As long as you've chosen the embedded kernel (in 2.1.5) or are using 2.2 64bit then the initial interface assign screen will appear on the console when you boot the drive in the XTM5.

              Steve

              I will be using version 2.2 beta now…. So what image file should I use?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Your timing is great because 2.2 just went RC.  :D
                https://blog.pfsense.org/?p=1506
                So use the 2.2RC 64bit ISO to make an install CD and use the procedure we discussed.
                http://files.bgn.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/pfSense-LiveCD-2.2-RC-amd64.iso.gz

                Steve

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                  pglover19
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                  @stephenw10:

                  The settings are '8N1' which is pretty standard. However they're ordered differently in putty. See screenshot attached.

                  The CF card appears to the BIOS as the first hard drive so I believe it will boot from a real HD if that's the only one. They are IDE and SATA though.

                  You only get the option to install if you've booted from a CD or a memstick image. If you look at the screenshots shown in that part of the doc they are taken from 1.0Beta in 2006!
                  If you want to do it all on the box you might be able to flash the CF card with the 'memstick-serial' image and boot that. You would then have an install option. However be prepared for trouble if you try that because it will expect to be attached via USB not IDE.

                  Try running Nano from a CF card for starters. Check the hardware is good. Move on from there.

                  Steve

                  Just want to confirm that the baud rate to access the serial console for pfsense version 2.2 is 115200 and not 9600. Please confirm.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Yes.

                    @https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/2.2_New_Features_and_Changes#OS_Changes:

                    Default serial speed is now 115200

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                      pglover19
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                      I just got my XTM 525 machine in the mail today.. I am having a hard time trying to open the case. I unscrewed the 2 screws from the back.. Are there more? What is the secret to open this case?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        There's third screw in the centre at the back under the warranty sticker (assuming it's like the 1st gen box). Then the whole top slides back a little before lifting off.

                        Steve

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                          pglover19
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                          @stephenw10:

                          There's third screw in the centre at the back under the warranty sticker (assuming it's like the 1st gen box). Then the whole top slides back a little before lifting off.

                          Steve

                          Well I got pfense up and running on my XTM 525 from a SSD drive. I had to unplug the CF card in order to boot from the SSD drive. The BIOS is locked down. The unit comes with 2GB of RAM and has the Celeron E3400 2.6GHZ CPU.

                          I have a few questions:

                          My WAN is connected to the first gigabit port (em0) on the XTM 525, however the port is registering as 100baseTX half-duplex. My LAN connection (second gigabit port (em1)) is registering as 1000baseT full-duplex. It looks like pfsense is only detecting that the first 2 gigabit ports link is up (em0 & em1). So should I connect it to one of the other gigabit port?

                          BIOS is in View Only mode - Is there any reason to flash it so I can change the settings in the BIOS?

                          How can I get the LCD working to show pfsense status?

                          How can I adjust the fan speed?

                          Is there a way to SSH in pfsense using the LAN IP address?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Don't even think about flashing the bios without confirming the motherboard is identical. The board I have here has a sticker marked "MB7580W CK:9A80 2010-02-02" and the board itself is marked "MB-7580W V1.0C"
                            Flashing the bios unlocks it, enables speedstep and sets the arm/disarm LED as red at boot but it's not necessary and it a risk, especially for you with your gen2 box.

                            LCD and fan speed are covered in the docs wiki.
                            https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Installing_lcdproc_and_the_SDECLCD_driver
                            and
                            https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc

                            Under 2.2 the lcd driver is behaving even more oddly than normal though!  ;)

                            To access the box using SSH just enable it in System: Advanced: Admin Access:

                            The Gigabit ports are identical so moving your WAN to a different one is unlikely to help. You could move it to the 10/100 port and see if that helps. It looks like the NIC isn't negatiating the link speed correctly with whatever is at the other end, what is it? Is it set to a fixed speed/duplex?

                            Do you have photos of the inside?

                            Steve

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                              pglover19
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                              @stephenw10:

                              Don't even think about flashing the bios without confirming the motherboard is identical. The board I have here has a sticker marked "MB7580W CK:9A80 2010-02-02" and the board itself is marked "MB-7580W V1.0C"
                              Flashing the bios unlocks it, enables speedstep and sets the arm/disarm LED as red at boot but it's not necessary and it a risk, especially for you with your gen2 box.

                              LCD and fan speed are covered in the docs wiki.
                              https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Installing_lcdproc_and_the_SDECLCD_driver
                              and
                              https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc

                              Under 2.2 the lcd driver is behaving even more oddly than normal though!  ;)

                              To access the box using SSH just enable it in System: Advanced: Admin Access:

                              The Gigabit ports are identical so moving your WAN to a different one is unlikely to help. You could move it to the 10/100 port and see if that helps. It looks like the NIC isn't negatiating the link speed correctly with whatever is at the other end, what is it? Is it set to a fixed speed/duplex?

                              Do you have photos of the inside?

                              Steve

                              Switched my WAN connection to another gigabit port and now I am getting 1000baseT full-duplex. So it looks like the first gigabit port port is only reading 100baseTX half-duplex. Not sure if it is by design or the port is bad. Fortunately I have 6 other ports.

                              As far as photos of the inside, I already installed the unit in my computer rack in the garage. The inside looks identical to the XTM 505.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                You realise the 1st port, next to the USB ports, is a 10/100 NIC using the fxp driver? Unless of course that's changed in the gen2.

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                                  pglover19
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                                  @stephenw10:

                                  Don't even think about flashing the bios without confirming the motherboard is identical. The board I have here has a sticker marked "MB7580W CK:9A80 2010-02-02" and the board itself is marked "MB-7580W V1.0C"
                                  Flashing the bios unlocks it, enables speedstep and sets the arm/disarm LED as red at boot but it's not necessary and it a risk, especially for you with your gen2 box.

                                  LCD and fan speed are covered in the docs wiki.
                                  https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Installing_lcdproc_and_the_SDECLCD_driver
                                  and
                                  https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc

                                  Under 2.2 the lcd driver is behaving even more oddly than normal though!  ;)

                                  To access the box using SSH just enable it in System: Advanced: Admin Access:

                                  The Gigabit ports are identical so moving your WAN to a different one is unlikely to help. You could move it to the 10/100 port and see if that helps. It looks like the NIC isn't negatiating the link speed correctly with whatever is at the other end, what is it? Is it set to a fixed speed/duplex?

                                  Do you have photos of the inside?

                                  Steve

                                  I am getting the error message "ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found" when running the WGXepc program.

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                                    pglover19
                                    last edited by

                                    @pglover19:

                                    @stephenw10:

                                    Don't even think about flashing the bios without confirming the motherboard is identical. The board I have here has a sticker marked "MB7580W CK:9A80 2010-02-02" and the board itself is marked "MB-7580W V1.0C"
                                    Flashing the bios unlocks it, enables speedstep and sets the arm/disarm LED as red at boot but it's not necessary and it a risk, especially for you with your gen2 box.

                                    LCD and fan speed are covered in the docs wiki.
                                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Installing_lcdproc_and_the_SDECLCD_driver
                                    and
                                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc

                                    Under 2.2 the lcd driver is behaving even more oddly than normal though!  ;)

                                    To access the box using SSH just enable it in System: Advanced: Admin Access:

                                    The Gigabit ports are identical so moving your WAN to a different one is unlikely to help. You could move it to the 10/100 port and see if that helps. It looks like the NIC isn't negatiating the link speed correctly with whatever is at the other end, what is it? Is it set to a fixed speed/duplex?

                                    Do you have photos of the inside?

                                    Steve

                                    I am getting the error message "ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found" when running the WGXepc program.

                                    Is 32 vs 64bit the problem?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Ah, sorry the docs are aimed at users of older fireboxes. The XTM5 is the first one that's 64bit capable. You need the 64bit compiled version of WGXepc named WGXepc64. It's in the same place:

                                      fetch -o /conf https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/WGXepc64
                                      

                                      I'll have to update that doc quite a bit for 2.2.  ;)

                                      Steve

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                                        pglover19
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                                        @stephenw10:

                                        You realise the 1st port, next to the USB ports, is a 10/100 NIC using the fxp driver? Unless of course that's changed in the gen2.

                                        Yes… The XTM 525 has the 10/100 NIC as well. I was referring to the 1st gigabit port which is em0.

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                                          unknown001
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                                          I have a xtm 505 that is mostly dead. I believe the bois may be corrupted. When I boot the unit all the LED lights on the board lights up and stay lit.  Also the front LCD lights up and front power LED lights up. Nothing else. Console shows nothing.  I already cleared/reset bios setting with jumper, didn't help. I know in previous Watchguard untis such as x750e, 1250e the LED lights turn off after bios check. My xtm505, LED lights stay on and nothing else. Unfortunately these boards were created for security purposes and the manufacture is reluctant to share more information. I will attempt to do a SPI header flash with cable.

                                          Thank you, stephenw10 for the bios file you posted here.

                                          Can someone with a working xtm 5 confirm: the LED lights next to the fans turns off after boot? Which ones turn off and which ones stay on after boot? I would also like to know, during boot, does the onboard speaker beep once bios check is successful? Because I do not get any beep.

                                          labels:

                                          686
                                          AMIBIOS
                                          ZU91
                                          7329

                                          MB-7580W (version 1.2)
                                          CK-3E83
                                          2010-04-06

                                          Thanks for your time and help.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Pretty sure the leds all stay on but I can check later today. It should beep at least once. I recently made a few changes to the BIOS settings on my box and now it beeps a lot. I think I disabled the on-board graphics.

                                            Edit: Yep all the LEDs stay on. They appear to be indicators on the various voltage lines from the PSU hence one stays on constantly even in standby.
                                            Do your fans slow down after switching on? I believe that in controlled by the bios code. I'm fairly sure when I hosed the BIOS on my box the fans stayed at maximum speed.

                                            Steve

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