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    • B
      bbunny
      last edited by

      I'm still having this problem.

      I do have the "IPv6 ICMP any from any to any" rule for WAN. Testing whit http://ipv6-test.com/ it returns ICMP Filtered (Your router or firewall is filtering ICMPv6 messages sent to your computer. An IPv6 host that cannot receive ICMP messages may encounter problems like some web pages loading partially or not at all.)

      So… yeah any new options out there?

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      • MikeV7896M
        MikeV7896
        last edited by

        Make sure your computer (or whatever device you're testing from) doesn't have a firewall that is filtering ICMPv6 as well. Windows Firewall does, by default, except from the LAN (at least in home/work networks; public might filter it in all cases).

        For example, I can run the test on my Windows PC and it will show filtered, but I can run it on my iPhone and it will pass.

        There is an advanced rule you can create to allow Windows Firewall to respond to ICMPv6. Steps are detailed in this Technet article. Note that instead of opening Group Policy Management Console, you would go to Control Panel > Windows Firewall > Advanced Settings. Also, this may not be available on non-professional versions of Windows (i.e. Home Premium).

        The S in IOT stands for Security

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        • B
          bbunny
          last edited by

          It works. thx

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            Jackhold
            last edited by

            Hey dudes my turn to reboot this thread
            i need a little help 
            i set up my pfsense so i get an ipv6 on my client but i can't  ping google dns the set up is as follow ,

            i get an ip range from my isp 2001:878::xxx/64
            i setup wan as dhcp delegation size 64 
            lan as static 2001:878::1/64
            and i set up "DHCPv6" router advertisements unmanaged
            Allow ipv6 is checked
            i have set up the default allow in the firewall as the only thing in there except the ipv4 default

            i was thinking the problem is because i have ipv4 enable and running but that should be possible right?? having ipv6 and ipv4 on the same pfsense

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            • MikeV7896M
              MikeV7896
              last edited by

              Usually if you're getting your prefix from your ISP via DHCP+PD, you wouldn't set the LAN as static. On the LAN interface you should select Track Interface, then under the IPv6 section, you should select WAN as the interface to track.

              The WAN and LAN addresses should be from different address ranges, not the same subnet. so if your WAN is getting 2001:878::xxx, your LAN should not be using 2001:878::1.

              IPv4 is not the problem. IPv4 and IPv6 can co-exist just fine.

              The S in IOT stands for Security

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                Jackhold
                last edited by

                i tried the track interface thing but it don't work.
                i was think that it wouldn't work if you had the same subnets on both sides of pfsense but then again  it is ipv6

                could it be something the ISP have to do?? an error in there setup??

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                  hda
                  last edited by

                  @Jackhold:

                  i was think that it wouldn't work if you had the same subnets on both sides of pfsense …

                  Right. So first your ISP should supply, native IPv6, at least prefix /63 or lower size-value.
                  I think a /64 prefix won't work for creating a LAN.

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                    Jackhold
                    last edited by

                    i got a /64 network all to my self, the last 64 bit's of an ipv6 address is for interfaces, so the way it should work is the pfsense just works as an firewall and don't route.. the ipv6 world is an nat free world :)

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                      hda
                      last edited by

                      @Jackhold:

                      i got a /64 network all to my self, the last 64 bit's of an ipv6 address is for interfaces, so the way it should work is the pfsense just works as an firewall and don't route.. the ipv6 world is an nat free world :)

                      Well, WAN - LAN on pfSense needs routing. WAN subnetvalue is not equal to LAN subnetvalue.

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                        Jackhold
                        last edited by

                        @hda:

                        @Jackhold:

                        i got a /64 network all to my self, the last 64 bit's of an ipv6 address is for interfaces, so the way it should work is the pfsense just works as an firewall and don't route.. the ipv6 world is an nat free world :)

                        Well, WAN - LAN on pfSense needs routing. WAN subnetvalue is not LAN subnetvalue.

                        the "routing" is that not what the track interface is for??

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                          hda
                          last edited by

                          @Jackhold:

                          the "routing" is that not what the track interface is for??

                          I think Track Interface is in case of renewal of WAN.

                          Now, suppose you want more than one LAN routed & firewalled, what do you think is needed in such case ?

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                            Jackhold
                            last edited by

                            @hda:

                            @Jackhold:

                            the "routing" is that not what the track interface is for??

                            I think tracking is case renewal of WAN.

                            Now, suppose you want more than one LAN routed & firewalled, what do you think is needed in such case ?

                            i am not sure… the way i understand ipv6 is that everyone device get and ipv6 address and the way you limit the access from the wan to your lan and the other way is by firewall.

                            but if you have a case where you have 1 wan and 2 lan interfaces (to lan1 and lan2) and you wanner control what addresses go to lan1 and lan2 that would be done by some sort of static route but i am not sure i..

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                              hda
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                              @Jackhold:

                              i am not sure…

                              but if you have a case where you have 1 wan and 2 lan interfaces (to lan1 and lan2) and you wanner control what addresses go to lan1 and lan2 that would be done by some sort of static route but i am not sure i..

                              I recommend to study IPv6 RFC's for how IPv6 is supposed to work, before activating pfSense-IPv6 parallel to IPv4.
                              You want to be secure to control IPv6 streams by understanding what is going on, don't you ?

                              See also http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_IPv6GlobalUnicastAddressFormat-2.htm case subnetvalue. You are a site-administrator  :)

                              Reference to my thread-reply #18

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                                Jackhold
                                last edited by

                                @hda:

                                @Jackhold:

                                i am not sure…

                                but if you have a case where you have 1 wan and 2 lan interfaces (to lan1 and lan2) and you wanner control what addresses go to lan1 and lan2 that would be done by some sort of static route but i am not sure i..

                                I recommend to study IPv6 RFC's for how IPv6 is supposed to work, before activating pfSense-IPv6 parallel to IPv4.
                                You want to be secure to control IPv6 streams by understanding what is going on, don't you ?

                                See also http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_IPv6GlobalUnicastAddressFormat-2.htm case subnetvalue. You are a site-administrator  :)

                                Reference to my thread-reply #18

                                that one is on me i gave you the wrong addresses i got from my isp it is more like 2001:878:989::xxx/64 my isp is only giving me the interface addresses to play with the prefix and subnet is chosen for me so what i get from my isp is only one subnet it might not be possible to do what i wanner do… as you say having the same subnet on the wan as the lan site should be a problem.. but i was hoping there was a way

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                                  hda
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jackhold:

                                  .. but i was hoping there was a way

                                  There is.  :)  Demand at least a prefix /63 (or smaller like /62 or /60).

                                  That way pfSense-WAN can occupy subnet 'xxx0' and enable your pfSense-LAN to take subnet 'xxx1'. Then your LAN has address prefix 2001:878:989:xxx1:/64 so a host on that LAN can make a public (no NAT) /128 number by adding its 64-bit ID to that LAN-prefix.

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                                    Jackhold
                                    last edited by

                                    @hda:

                                    There is.  :)  Demand at least a prefix /63 (or smaller like /62 or /60).

                                    That way pfSense-WAN can occupy subnet 'xxx0' and enable your pfSense-LAN to take subnet 'xxx1'. Then your LAN has address prefix 2001:878:989:xxx1:/64 so a host on that LAN can make a public (no NAT) /128 number by adding its 64-bit ID to that LAN-prefix.

                                    i tried that and it just don't do what it should… i can ping google from the wan and local host on pfsense but any thing on the other side of pfsense just don't work.... what ever is wrong is beyond me

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                                      hda
                                      last edited by

                                      @Jackhold:

                                      @hda:

                                      There is.  :)  Demand at least a prefix /63 (or smaller like /62 or /60).

                                      That way pfSense-WAN can occupy subnet 'xxx0' and enable your pfSense-LAN to take subnet 'xxx1'. Then your LAN has address prefix 2001:878:989:xxx1:/64 so a host on that LAN can make a public (no NAT) /128 number by adding its 64-bit ID to that LAN-prefix.

                                      i tried that and it just don't do what it should… i can ping google from the wan and local host on pfsense but any thing on the other side of pfsense just don't work.... what ever is wrong is beyond me

                                      "Demand prefix /63" I mean your specification towards your ISP.
                                      Then your ISP should supply at least a /63 to you/pfSense, when you do WAN-DHCP6(PD) to them.

                                      And your pfSense-box is the direct outbound to your ISP, right ? (Not behind a MoDem/router OK ?)

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                                        Jackhold
                                        last edited by

                                        @hda:

                                        "Demand prefix /63" I mean your specification towards your ISP.
                                        Then your ISP should supply at least a /63 to you/pfSense, when you do WAN-DHCP6(PD) to them.

                                        And your pfSense-box is the direct outbound to your ISP, right ? (Not behind a MoDem/router OK ?)

                                        tried that and it dont work i set up wan interface as dhcp6 and DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation size as 62 and 63, lan interface set to track interface and all that crap but still no ip's a given to my equipment on the lan side.
                                        but if i set up static ip on the lan and dhcpv6 router advertisements to unmanaged i get ip's that look right but still i can't ping google….
                                        and if you think it could be the firewall it's not that, i set an any any rule so that should not be the problem

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                                          CiscoKid85
                                          last edited by

                                          I too just had this issue. Had to allow IPv6 ICMP responses in to the local LAN in order to pass ipv6-test.com. Does anyone have any additional information on this? Seems like allowing this outright might have some security implications?

                                          Thanks!

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            IPv6 needs ICMP to function properly.

                                            Here's one: http://blogs.cisco.com/security/icmp-and-security-in-ipv6

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