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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by

      Hard to say, but you'd have to compare it with the output on the same hardware running bare metal without ESX.

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        biggsy
        last edited by

        Unfortunately, I haven't got any chance of trying 2.2 on the bare metal but I should probably have mentioned that 2.1.5-RELEASE (amd64) is currently running on the same hardware and ESXi version.  AES-NI is showing up in Crypto Hardware Acceleration on that VM.

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          timmyj9
          last edited by

          i can confirm same situation here with the hardware crypto acceleration working in pfSense 2.1 but not 2.2-beta (also under ESXi 5.5)

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            eri--
            last edited by

            Please provide information from your dmesg the 20 top rows.

            Also the output of kldload -v aesni and dmesg info after.

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              biggsy
              last edited by

              On 2.1.5:

              
              Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
              Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
              	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
              FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
              FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p16 #0: Mon Aug 25 08:27:11 EDT 2014
                  root@pf2_1_1_amd64.pfsense.org:/usr/obj.amd64/usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_SMP.8 amd64
              Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
              CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1265L V2 @ 2.50GHz (2493.80-MHz K8-class CPU)
                Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x306a9  Family = 6  Model = 3a  Stepping = 9
                Features=0xfa3fbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,dts,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss>Features2=0x96982203 <sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,avx,hv>AMD Features=0x28100800 <syscall,nx,rdtscp,lm>AMD Features2=0x1 <lahf>TSC: P-state invariant
              real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
              avail memory = 4092432384 (3902 MB)
              ACPI APIC Table: <ptltd  apic ="">MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI
              ioapic0 <version 1.1="">irqs 0-23 on motherboard
              wlan: mac acl policy registered
              ipw_bss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
              ipw_bss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_bss_fw, 0xffffffff804abaf0, 0) error 1
              ipw_ibss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
              ipw_ibss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_ibss_fw, 0xffffffff804abb90, 0) error 1
              ipw_monitor: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
              ipw_monitor: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_monitor_fw, 0xffffffff804abc30, 0) error 1
              kbd1 at kbdmux0
              cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
              padlock0: No ACE support.
              
              $ kldload -v aesni
              kldload: can't load aesni: File exists</software></version></ptltd ></lahf></syscall,nx,rdtscp,lm></sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,avx,hv></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,dts,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss> 
              

              On 2.2 (updated from clone of 2.1.5 with restored config)

              
              Copyright (c) 1992-2014 The FreeBSD Project.
              Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
              	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
              FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
              FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 29f4af5(releng/10.1)-dirty: Sat Nov 15 10:43:23 CST 2014
                  root@pfsense-22-amd64-builder:/usr/obj.amd64/usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_SMP.10 amd64
              FreeBSD clang version 3.4.1 (tags/RELEASE_34/dot1-final 208032) 20140512
              CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1265L V2 @ 2.50GHz (2494.33-MHz K8-class CPU)
                Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x306a9  Family = 0x6  Model = 0x3a  Stepping = 9
                Features=0xfa3fbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,dts,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss>Features2=0x9e982203 <sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv>AMD Features=0x28100800 <syscall,nx,rdtscp,lm>AMD Features2=0x1 <lahf>TSC: P-state invariant
              real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
              avail memory = 4098441216 (3908 MB)
              Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
              ACPI APIC Table: <ptltd  apic ="">MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI
              ioapic0 <version 1.1="">irqs 0-23 on motherboard
              wlan: mac acl policy registered
              ipw_bss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
              ipw_bss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_bss_fw, 0xffffffff80606680, 0) error 1
              ipw_ibss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
              ipw_ibss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_ibss_fw, 0xffffffff80606730, 0) error 1
              ipw_monitor: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
              ipw_monitor: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_monitor_fw, 0xffffffff806067e0, 0) error 1
              iwi_bss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_iwi/.
              iwi_bss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (iwi_bss_fw, 0xffffffff8062de50, 0) error 1
              iwi_ibss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_iwi/.
              iwi_ibss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (iwi_ibss_fw, 0xffffffff8062df00, 0) error 1
              iwi_monitor: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_iwi/.
              iwi_monitor: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
              module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (iwi_monitor_fw, 0xffffffff8062dfb0, 0) error 1
              random: <software, yarrow="">initialized
              kbd1 at kbdmux0
              cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
              padlock0: No ACE support.
              
              $ kldload -v aesni
              kldload: can't load aesni: module already loaded or in kernel</software></software,></version></ptltd ></lahf></syscall,nx,rdtscp,lm></sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,dts,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss> 
              

              2.2 still shows this message on boot:

              
              padlock0: No ACE support.
              aesni0: No SSE4.1 support.
              
              
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                fileman
                last edited by

                Same problem with 2.2 RC last snapshot.

                ![cpu aesni.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/cpu aesni.png)
                ![cpu aesni.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/cpu aesni.png_thumb)

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Seems OK here on bare metal

                  : dmesg | egrep -i '(SSE|aes.*ni)'
                    Features=0xbfebfbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>Features2=0x43d8e3bf <sse3,pclmulqdq,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,vmx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,sse4.1,sse4.2,movbe,popcnt,tscdlt,aesni,rdrand>aesni0: <aes-cbc,aes-xts,aes-gcm>on motherboard
                  : kldstat | grep aesni
                   3    1 0xffffffff82612000 60b5     aesni.ko</aes-cbc,aes-xts,aes-gcm></sse3,pclmulqdq,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,vmx,est,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,sse4.1,sse4.2,movbe,popcnt,tscdlt,aesni,rdrand></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe> 
                  

                  I do see that message when loading aesni.ko inside a VMware VM, though.

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                    heper
                    last edited by

                    so aes-ni doesn't work inside VM's ?

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      I'd wager that has more to do with the hypervisor than the OS since it works on bare metal but it's tough to say for sure.

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                        zanon
                        last edited by

                        Hi ,
                        I had some free time around Christmas and played with new 2.2 RC .
                        I have  tested new VMware 6.0 RC as well as  ESXI 5.5 and directly on bare e3-1230v2,  and can confirm that the problem with aesni persist with both Hypervisors.

                        I spend long time to test multiple cases with both 2.1.5 and 2.2  versions of pfsense on VM <->VM scenario. The results is one and the same. no HW acceleration at all.
                        I also tried my spare e3-1230v2 against my prod, both versions 2.1.5 and looks like HW acceleration is not working as well. speed is capped near ~~ 326 Mbits/sec.
                        Unfortunately I cannot install 2.2RC in prod to test it….  ... But looks lke HW acceleration works for 2.2.rc
                        (when i perform tests from 2.2 against 2.1.5 speed is near 400 Mbits/sec , when i test from 2.1.5 against 2.2rc speed is droping to 312 Mbits/sec)
                        i also have to confirm that pure speed between 2 * VM 2.2rc (vmx3)  is like 3.04 Gbits/sec when 2 * vm 2.1.5 (vmx3) is hardly hitting 1.59 Gbits/sec .
                        unfortunately with no HW acceleration the IPSEC speed is like i said ~~ 350 Mbits/sec.

                        At the end,  I am not an expert, but looks like this "No SSE4.1 support"  problem is some misunderstanding in aesni_probe module related to the  way vmware reports Features= and Features2= to guest operating system .
                        (but dont shoot me if i am wrong )  ;)

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                          biggsy
                          last edited by

                          In my brief test of 2.2RC in a VM yesterday, I didn't see the "padlock0: No ACE support/aesni0: No SSE4.1 support" messages but I wasn't watching for them.

                          With 2.1.5 running on 5.5 U2 everything seems to be OK:

                          $ dmesg | egrep -i '(SSE|aes.*ni)'
                            Features=0xfa3fbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,dts,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss>Features2=0x96982203 <sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,avx,hv>aesni0: <aes-cbc,aes-xts> on motherboard</aes-cbc,aes-xts></sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,avx,hv></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,dts,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss>
                          
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                            els
                            last edited by

                            My machine has AES-NI and I did a "dmesg" to confirm that. I have site-to-site VPN running and it works (except for the bug with IPSEC widget). How do I tell if AES-NI is being utilized? Do I need to make configuration change to force it to use AES-NI?

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                              zanon
                              last edited by

                              Hi,
                              just tested  a fresh FreeBSD 10.1  installation on esxi 5.5u2. AES-NI looks working

                              uname -a 
                              FreeBSD  10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014     root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
                              
                              dmesg | grep -i aes
                                Features2=0x9e982203 <sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv>aesni0: <aes-cbc,aes-xts> on motherboard</aes-cbc,aes-xts></sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv>
                              

                              vs the very same VM with pfsense :

                               uname -a
                              FreeBSD pfSense.localdomain 10.1-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p3 #0 8bdb2f8(releng/10.1)-dirty: Thu Jan  1 15:43:28 CST 2015     root@pfsense-22-amd64-builder:/usr/obj.amd64/usr/pfSensesrc/src/sys/pfSense_SMP.10  amd64
                              
                               Features2=0x9e982203 <sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv>aesni0: No SSE4.1 support.</sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv> 
                              

                              after i copy the module /boot/kernel/aesni.ko from freebsd to pfsense i got 1 warning , but eventually looks like working :

                              dmesg | grep -i aes
                                Features2=0x9e982203 <sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv>warning: KLD '/boot/kernel/aesni.ko' is newer than the linker.hints file
                              aesni0: <aes-cbc,aes-xts>on motherboard</aes-cbc,aes-xts></sse3,pclmulqdq,ssse3,cx16,sse4.1,sse4.2,popcnt,aesni,xsave,osxsave,avx,hv> 
                              
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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                The FreeBSD module does not include our code for IPsec acceleration of AES-GCM. It would not be useful on pfSense in general.

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                                  eri--
                                  last edited by

                                  I will double check this though that should not prevent our module to not attach where freebsd one attaches.
                                  I will post here when resolve that.

                                  EDIT: Oh i forgot the 10.1 FreeBSD does not have any AES-GCM code :)

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                                    zanon
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi, аs long as i could imagine,
                                    the problem is not in specific implementation of  AES additions,  but in the detection of processor  Features and Features2 in aesni_probe module.
                                    but enough for this :)

                                    i really have to share that most of us, people who are using pfsense, are pretty excited of your work guys .

                                    Thank you for everything you are doing .

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                                      eri--
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah but AES-GCM has more requirments than plain AES-CBC/XTS speedup.

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