Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Very Compact Battery Backup

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Hardware
    30 Posts 7 Posters 5.7k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • R
      robi
      last edited by

      Very interesting. Where did you buy them, what was the price?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • K
        kejianshi
        last edited by

        http://www.aliexpress.com/item/12V-9V-UPS-Standby-uninterruptible-power-supply-DC-Mobile-Power-router-modem-UPS/1912055776.html

        http://www.ebay.com/itm/141440830439?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

        cheap options…

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • J
          jasonlitka
          last edited by

          http://www.mini-box.com/OpenUPS2?sc=8&category=1264

          I bought one of these a while ago. I never did get the chance to install it in my M350 though.  I'm off work for a while though so maybe this coming week.

          I can break anything.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • F
            firewalluser
            last edited by

            They appear to use the LiFePO4 which is the same type of battery used to power electric bikes with crank or hub motors.

            Very long life battery, better than the normal batteries used in phones.

            Capitalism, currently The World's best Entertainment Control System and YOU cant buy it! But you can buy this, or some of this or some of these

            Asch Conformity, mainly the blind leading the blind.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • ?
              Guest
              last edited by

              Yea i got one of the AUPS-A10 and 4 of the B10 off ebay for cheap. I was wary of the B10 due to the 4 pin power input, but in the kit it uses a 5.5mm to 4 pin adapter, so all good.
              One caviet, You must install the software on Windows to enable the LAN features. Only applicable to new units.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • ?
                Guest
                last edited by

                And in an effort at transparency, I was praising the ebay seller about the item and i mentioned i was posting a good write-up on the forum here and he offered me a free AUPS unit if i provided the link. I did not accept the free hardware and thanked him. I already bought 5 of these @20 bucks new so I hogged up all I want from ebay and felt it was a worth recommendation. I like recommending hardware with no hidden agenda's. I can say for sure Iei makes solid gear. This would defiantly be a nice atom backup or something low power. One of the 5 i bought had the 8.5" PanelPC attached for 20 bucks!! AFL-08AH N270 atom touchscreen. Used, bad cmos battery. 2 dollar fix.
                Tell me there ain't some bargains on there.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • R
                  robi
                  last edited by

                  Can you please post the eBay product or seller link? I can't seem to find any…

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • R
                    robi
                    last edited by

                    @kejianshi:

                    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/12V-9V-UPS-Standby-uninterruptible-power-supply-DC-Mobile-Power-router-modem-UPS/1912055776.html

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/141440830439?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                    cheap options…

                    Sorry not these, I meant the types like Phishfry was writing about, with management interface and stuff.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • ?
                      Guest
                      last edited by

                      I may have jumped the gun on how great these are. They work good at the basic function of battery backup. The monitoring software is windows based and is very informative and useful. The web interface is unpolished and is very lackluster. The real test as the "ultimate pfSense accessory" will be how it works with NUT, the Freebsd Network UPS daemon. The device is not on the list of supported hardware so i am going to give it a try this weekend on a test box. I have lowered my bar for this device as it doesn't show the actual input voltage, which i wanted for my battery bank monitoring i was hoping to use this for..

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • ?
                        Guest
                        last edited by

                        Here are some pictures of the Windows software versus their web interface:

                        54a5cce8.jpg
                        54a5cce8.jpg_thumb

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • ?
                          Guest
                          last edited by

                          More pix of Windows interface–Battery Tab

                          54a5cd1b.jpg
                          54a5cd1b.jpg_thumb

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • ?
                            Guest
                            last edited by

                            Windows Interface pix

                            54a5cd3a.jpg
                            54a5cd3a.jpg_thumb

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • ?
                              Guest
                              last edited by

                              Windows Interface pix

                              54a5cd5e.jpg
                              54a5cd5e.jpg_thumb

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • ?
                                Guest
                                last edited by

                                Web Interface Homepage pix

                                54a5cdad.jpg
                                54a5cdad.jpg_thumb

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • ?
                                  Guest
                                  last edited by

                                  Web Interface Email Tab pix

                                  54a5ce3c.jpg
                                  54a5ce3c.jpg_thumb

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • ?
                                    Guest
                                    last edited by

                                    Web Interface pix

                                    54a5ce17.jpg
                                    54a5ce17.jpg_thumb

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • ?
                                      Guest
                                      last edited by

                                      And just to be clear the above images are from the AUPS-B10 which is a bit larger at 100W.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • ?
                                        Guest
                                        last edited by

                                        Well bad news. Neither Local UPS or remote UPS modes would work with this device and Network UPS Tools package.
                                        In Remote UPS mode/NUTS status is showing but is Error:Stale Data. Soooo. 20 bucks for a battery backup with nice windows software.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • K
                                          kejianshi
                                          last edited by

                                          Remote windows tool is fairly useless for anything more than curiosity sake. 
                                          But I'm pretty used to running ups with no management at all, so its no big deal.
                                          I like buying used batteryless APC ups from ebay, dropping in a new battery and then you get the pfsense management interface and OK ups cheap.

                                          Lithium is much better of course.

                                          BTW - I couln't find one like your cheap.
                                          Seems like they are usually fairly expensive.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • R
                                            robi
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phishfry:

                                            Well bad news. Neither Local UPS or remote UPS modes would work with this device and Network UPS Tools package.
                                            In Remote UPS mode/NUTS status is showing but is Error:Stale Data. Soooo. 20 bucks for a battery backup with nice windows software.

                                            I didn't think that these models would work out of the box with these open source software modules like NUT, however, I really doubt that their management hardware interface has anything revolutionary new. It shouldn't be too difficult to add suppurt to NUT at least at basic level. Think about it: software like NUT supports most UPS-es unofficially, somebody just took the time and effort to monitor traffict between the original sowtware from the manufacturer and the UPS, and implement that into NUT.

                                            UPS Management is important for cases when power failures frequency and their duration cannot be estimated - for example in my area there are failures of less than 10 minutes about 3-4 times a year, and failures exceeding 40 minutes 1 or 2 times a year. I really need to know when the battery goes below a certain percent to start shutting down things properly.

                                            So I think the most basic thing in management is to know if it's on external power or on battery. If this basic functionality would be available, you could at least do something when things go to battery (wait 1 minute and if still on battery start normal shutdown, write the event in a logfile, etc.)

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.