Watchguard XTM 5 Series

pglover19

You realise the 1st port, next to the USB ports, is a 10/100 NIC using the fxp driver? Unless of course that's changed in the gen2.

Yes… The XTM 525 has the 10/100 NIC as well. I was referring to the 1st gigabit port which is em0.

unknown001

I have a xtm 505 that is mostly dead. I believe the bois may be corrupted. When I boot the unit all the LED lights on the board lights up and stay lit. Also the front LCD lights up and front power LED lights up. Nothing else. Console shows nothing. I already cleared/reset bios setting with jumper, didn't help. I know in previous Watchguard untis such as x750e, 1250e the LED lights turn off after bios check. My xtm505, LED lights stay on and nothing else. Unfortunately these boards were created for security purposes and the manufacture is reluctant to share more information. I will attempt to do a SPI header flash with cable.

Thank you, stephenw10 for the bios file you posted here.

Can someone with a working xtm 5 confirm: the LED lights next to the fans turns off after boot? Which ones turn off and which ones stay on after boot? I would also like to know, during boot, does the onboard speaker beep once bios check is successful? Because I do not get any beep.

labels:

686
AMIBIOS
ZU91
7329

MB-7580W (version 1.2)
CK-3E83
2010-04-06

Thanks for your time and help.

stephenw10

Pretty sure the leds all stay on but I can check later today. It should beep at least once. I recently made a few changes to the BIOS settings on my box and now it beeps a lot. I think I disabled the on-board graphics.

Edit: Yep all the LEDs stay on. They appear to be indicators on the various voltage lines from the PSU hence one stays on constantly even in standby.
Do your fans slow down after switching on? I believe that in controlled by the bios code. I'm fairly sure when I hosed the BIOS on my box the fans stayed at maximum speed.

Steve

unknown001

Thanks for the reply. No change in fan speed. Speed is constant, and nothing display on console. All lights lit up. I have several cisco db9 to RJ45 cables, so I know console cables should work. My best bet is bad bios. I'm not electronically savvy, so I will not be building a parallel to spi flash cable. I also have 3 old motherboards lying around with bad bios, about time I buy a flash cable. Currently waiting for the cable. The XTM 5 I purchased from ebay at a discounted price, knowing it does not function.

If this device has a bad bios, I wonder if a customer could have corrupted bios with Watchguard OS upgrade. Does anyone know if any Watchguard OS upgrade actually change bios settings?

Steve, do you remember? When you corrupted/bricked your bios, does it do what I described above? Or do I actually have a paper weight? No, just asking if you remember, don't perform brick on your unit.

I tried pulling memory card out to see if the bios would react to no memory, but same symptom as described above.

I also tried pulling the CPU out to see if the bios would react to no CPU, but same thing as described above. There is LED light next to cpu, underneath heatsink that lights up when NO cpu is present. This LED light is off when cpu is in present.

chpalmer

Do you have a CPU you can try in place of the one that came with it?

Mine did exactly as yours when I tried a Pentium 4 chip in it that I had lying around…

stephenw10

Yep that's exactly what it does when it fails to run the bios code. That can be because it has a corrupted bios but also because there's no cpu or a bad cpu or a bad motherboard.

Steve

Edit: typo

unknown001

Hope I don't have a bad motherboard. Hope it's just bios. I did try a different cup, intel e5300. Same results. Thanks for the info.

handshake

Hi Everybody,

I search an VGA Cable for my XTM5? Is there a way to buy one online? Thanks

stephenw10

Have a look at this:
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg425561#msg425561

Steve

unknown001

Steve, can you please provide wiring diagram from printer port to SPI pins? Thank you! I may just have to create one.

So I got my bios programmer from the mail today. I could not find any information on connecting the ISP interface on the programmer to the SPI pins on the motherboard. Any idea would be helpful, thank you.

Some good guess are:
SCL(CLK) = (pin eight) ICH_SPI_CLK
SO(DO) = (pin 5) SB_SPI_MISO
SI(DI) = (pin 10) ICH_SPI_MOSI
CS(CE) = ?
VCC = ?

On the motherboard I have no idea what these are use for
(pin 3) ICH_SPI_CS0#
(pin 4) V_3P3_SPI_R
(pin 6) 6 SPI_HD_N
(pin 7) Key

Top photo is bios chip programmer, isp interface. Bottom photo is SPI pin on motherboard.

ISPint.jpg_thumb

spi-rom.jpg_thumb

stephenw10

I used the diagram on this page: http://rayer.g6.cz/elektro/spipgm.htm to build my cable. It has some translations of the different pin labels.

Looks like the only thing you don't have is:
SPI connector (pin 3) ICH_SPI_CS0# is = CS(CE)

You don't need to connect Vcc as the chip is powered by the XTM PSU when it's in standby. Also you don't need to pull up the write-protect pin, which is lucky as it's not connected. You do need to connect the GND pin (9).

Looking at my cable which I know works I can also see that I have pins 4, 6 and 7 tied together but not connected to anything at the reader end. I can't remember why I did that! ::) There was some further info in the flashrom source code I think.

Steve

mgfair

I have a Watchguard XTM520. I am thinking of installing Pfsense and upgrading the CPU and Memory. What is recommended for this product? I can see that an Xeon Quad Core has been installed elsewehere.

stephenw10

Depends what you want to do with it. Bare in mind that it has a smaller power supply and possibly less cooling that the Lanner box it's built on.
I wouldn't put some thing with greater than a 65W TDP in it. That means you have to use the 'S' variant of any Core2Quads. The Xeon requires some mods to fit the 771 cpu into the 775 socket.

Steve

mgfair

It will be used for anti-virus/spam protection and load balancing of 2 super fast FTTH internet connections provided by PCCW in Hong Kong.

mgfair

Having looked at the Intel site - Thinking of using the Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q9550S. Seems to be the fastest at the given power specification.

stephenw10

What speed are those connections?
Whilst I've not benchmarked the box (and I'm only running an E4500 anyway) I'm not sure it's going to get to 2Gb/s if that's what you have. Not with those packages anyway. :-\

Steve

mgfair

The bandwidth of PCCW's fastest fiber service is 1000Mbps…...but doubt I ever achieve anything near that!

spiro2k6

I'm looking for a replacement for my firebox x750e and came across this thread. While looking at the processors this supported (socket775) i came across a small adapter that allows you to use a LGA771 processor in a 775 motherboard which opens up the possibility of running xeon processors in this box which can be had for cheap.

for example http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-SLANT-E5462-2-8GHz-12M-2800-LGA771-CPU-Processor-1059-/261767606847?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf290b23f

The xeon e5462 that i linked to benchmarks higher than a core2quad q9550 and has a FSB of 1600Mhz

Anyway, it was just some food for thought, i found it interesting and thought some of you may as well.

stephenw10

At least one person is using a modified 771 CPU such as that:
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=43574.msg421215;topicseen#msg421215
I don't think 1600MHz FSB is supported though. 1333MHz is.

Steve

chpalmer

Ive got a friend who has a core2quad q9650 that he is going to donate to me. :)

This one should work in an XTM 5 shouldn't it? Ive got 4gb of 800mhz DDR2 ready to go in as well.