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    • J
      JoelLinn
      last edited by

      Hi,

      in case you want to open up a port of your router on the WAN interface (aka the Internet) you don't need to NAT it.
      Just add a rule to the WAN Interface that allow traffic from any to "WAN address" on that particular port.

      But using telnet in untrusted (even trusted) networks is not the way you want to go, to put it mildly.
      Only SSH would be acceptable but even that usually nobody does.
      If you want to configure you router remotely try using something like OpenVPN on the remote computer, you can then do stuff like telnet://192.168.1.3:9002 safely through that tunnel because you are then part of your local network.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by

        When you say router you mean pfsense?  I don't even think pfsense supports telnet??  SSH sure, but has to be turned on its not on out of the box.

        You would never want to enable telnet to the public internet..  And as mentioned, its not even used internally any more ;)

        If you want to admin anything internally on your network, or even pfsense - I would sugggest you vpn in, and then you can admin whatever you want using whatever protocol you want, ssh, telnet, webgui, rdp, etc. etc..

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          cpatte7372
          last edited by

          Hi guys,

          Thanks for responding.

          I take your point regarding telnet. Therefore, I will go with SSH.

          So I need to SSH to a router via pfsense.

          I might not be explaining myself well enough, but to be honest I assumed most people on this forum would have worked with Cisco routers, switches etc…

          I can't be the first person asking this question.

          I would like to remotely connect to a router that is behind my pfSense firewall. The router has the private address 192.168.1.3.

          Clearly I can't SSH onto the router from the Internet to the private address. My pfSense firewall has a WAN address, say 74.65.78.12 and the router with the private address 192.168.1.3 sits behind the pfSense with the WAN ip address, 74.65.78.12.

          I have configured the firewall:nat as shown in the image, but it doesn't work.

          Can someone please help me.

          Carlton

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            JoelLinn
            last edited by

            ahhhh
            so your pfSense is not your router in this case  ;D took some time…...

            In your screenshot there is no Redirect target port entered. You should enter SSH there to.

            But even if you do that there is a possibility that your Router doesn't allow connections from any network(only local or known nets).
            If that's the case, you should consult your router documentation.

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              cpatte7372
              last edited by

              Joel

              Thanks for responding.

              May be the I didn't explain myself well as the other responders didn't come close to understanding what I am trying to achieve.

              Anyway, I have added SSH to Redirect target port.

              So, when I ssh to 74.65.78.12 should I be directed to 192.168.1.3?

              If so, it doesn't work

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                cpatte7372
                last edited by

                Hi,

                I have to appreciate that members here aren't too familiar with routers, therefore I'll provide another sample. This time I would like to RDP to a remote Windows Workstation, ip address 192.168.1.2, sitting behind my firewall

                The pfSense firewall has an WAN ip  address (not real) 74.75.89.1

                I have configured the firewall NAT Porward Edit as shown in the image.

                Can someone please tell me why this won't work…

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Can someone please tell me why this won't work…

                  What's the corresponding firewall rule look like?

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                    cpatte7372
                    last edited by

                    Derelict

                    See image for corresponding firewall

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                      cpatte7372
                      last edited by

                      Oops

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        Should work fine.  Does 192.168.1.2 default route back to pfSense?  Does it allow inbound MSRDP from "unfriendly" networks?

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          cpatte7372
                          last edited by

                          Hi derelict

                          192.168.1.2 doesn't default to pfsense. However, I an RDP to from unfriendly networks.

                          I don't undersatnd - it should work

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            Well, the return traffic is going to go wherever the default route tells it to go.  If that's not the router node with the NAT translation it's not going to work.

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                              cpatte7372
                              last edited by

                              The ofsense LAN address is 192.168.1.1, the public address is 74.x.x.x. Are you saying that the default route on the Workstation should be 192.168.1.1?

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Yes.  If you want this to work it has to be.

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                  cpatte7372
                                  last edited by

                                  Ok,

                                  Going to get out of bed and try now..

                                  Back in 5mins

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                                    cpatte7372
                                    last edited by

                                    Brilliant

                                    That worked

                                    Thanks Derelict

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