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    Boot Issue After upgrading from 2.1.5 to 2.2

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • R Offline
      ramymamlouk
      last edited by

      I don't think I can since I reverted back to 2.15. However, here are snipets from dmidecode hoping it would help:

      System Information
      Product Name: HP Compaq dc5750 Small Form Factor

      Base Board Information
      Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
      Product Name: 0A64h

      Processor Information
      Version: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

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        zero_snowman
        last edited by

        @ramymamlouk:

        Reverted back to 2.1.5 for the time being until another update is released.

        This is my plan as well.

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          Harvy66
          last edited by

          I feel like I lucked out and dodged a bullet. Seems like most people having issues have older computers or are using Xen. AHCI is wonderful.

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            zero_snowman
            last edited by

            Ok, well, call this crazy, I was tweaking around on my bios because I wanted to try installing from a USB drive. I ended up telling it to restore default bios settings after not being able to get it work. BAM working firewall again. Not sure how the upgrade tweaked my bios, but it did. Several reboots and shutdowns later, seems to still be working from console.

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              kejianshi
              last edited by

              More likely either your drive interfaces or usb with default motherboard settings was incompatible with the BSD OS version that pfsense 2.1.5 was built on but not incompatible with BDS 10.

              So yeah - That would be a good thing.

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                zero_snowman
                last edited by

                @kejianshi:

                More likely either your drive interfaces or usb with default motherboard settings was incompatible with the BSD OS version that pfsense 2.1.5 was built on but not incompatible with BDS 10.

                So yeah - That would be a good thing.

                I don't exactly follow you there kejianshi. This system was the same setup I had 2.1.5 running on for many years before hand. Only thing was upgrading to 2.2. There were no hardware changes made. Not sure, but all is well again. I hope the others get their kinks worked out.

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Is it possible that you had tweaked something in the bios to make it run an earlier pfSense version?
                  Such as set the drive controller to some lower mode or disabled ACPI?

                  Steve

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                    kejianshi
                    last edited by

                    Yep - Thats the kind of thing I was talking about.

                    "Aint broke" is good enough though.  I'm glad its working.

                    It just made me wonder if others might try the same thing.

                    De-optimize for 2.1.5 and try defaults rather than giving up.

                    There is always some fall out at each update.

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                    • stephenw10S Offline
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Indeed. I've been running 2.2 snaps pretty much since they were released but I still got bitten by something I hadn't seen coming.  ::)

                      Plenty of older hardware wouldn't boot unless AHCI or ACPI or APIC (or all three!) were disabled. Now that support for many more of these things is included a lot of that 'de-optimising' is either unnecessary or, worse, actually causing problems.

                      Steve

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                        cmb
                        last edited by

                        @zero_snowman:

                        Ok, well, call this crazy, I was tweaking around on my bios because I wanted to try installing from a USB drive. I ended up telling it to restore default bios settings after not being able to get it work. BAM working firewall again. Not sure how the upgrade tweaked my bios, but it did.

                        It didn't touch your BIOS config (and can't, it's completely and totally impossible), you had something there that wasn't right but just happened to work fine with FreeBSD 8.x. Come the upgrade to a FreeBSD 10.x base, something was no longer fine with whatever was wrong there.

                        @stephenw10:

                        Plenty of older hardware wouldn't boot unless AHCI or ACPI or APIC (or all three!) were disabled. Now that support for many more of these things is included a lot of that 'de-optimising' is either unnecessary or, worse, actually causing problems.

                        Yeah as with every significant base OS jump we've made, sometimes things that were necessary to make things work previously now are undesirable and make things no longer function.

                        Resetting BIOS to factory defaults is always a good idea if the system won't boot at all post-upgrade.

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                          ramymamlouk
                          last edited by

                          @zero_snowman:

                          I ended up telling it to restore default bios settings after not being able to get it work.

                          Do you have the same computer as mine? The HP Compaq dc5750 Small Form Factor?
                          I might trying to restore default bios settings next weekend while booting from a USB with 2.2 on it.

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                            ramymamlouk
                            last edited by

                            Restoring default bios settings did not work for me. I even tried to disable the onboard SATA controller, and attempt to install pfSense 2.2 on a USB, but that failed too.

                            I guess I'll wait for either a new release or a new computer :(

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Try booting FreeBSD 10.1 on it. At least that will narrow down the issue somewhat.

                              Steve

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                                zero_snowman
                                last edited by

                                @ramymamlouk:

                                @zero_snowman:

                                I ended up telling it to restore default bios settings after not being able to get it work.

                                Do you have the same computer as mine? The HP Compaq dc5750 Small Form Factor?
                                I might trying to restore default bios settings next weekend while booting from a USB with 2.2 on it.

                                Mine is much much older than that.  :D

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                                  zero_snowman
                                  last edited by

                                  @cmb:

                                  @zero_snowman:

                                  Ok, well, call this crazy, I was tweaking around on my bios because I wanted to try installing from a USB drive. I ended up telling it to restore default bios settings after not being able to get it work. BAM working firewall again. Not sure how the upgrade tweaked my bios, but it did.

                                  It didn't touch your BIOS config (and can't, it's completely and totally impossible), you had something there that wasn't right but just happened to work fine with FreeBSD 8.x. Come the upgrade to a FreeBSD 10.x base, something was no longer fine with whatever was wrong there.

                                  @stephenw10:

                                  Plenty of older hardware wouldn't boot unless AHCI or ACPI or APIC (or all three!) were disabled. Now that support for many more of these things is included a lot of that 'de-optimising' is either unnecessary or, worse, actually causing problems.

                                  Yeah as with every significant base OS jump we've made, sometimes things that were necessary to make things work previously now are undesirable and make things no longer function.

                                  Resetting BIOS to factory defaults is always a good idea if the system won't boot at all post-upgrade.

                                  Yes, I know, I should have better thought out my response.

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    I saw this same error while invetigating something else also on some pretty ancient hardware. I saw this:

                                    Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a [rw]...
                                    mountroot: waiting for device /dev/ada0s1a ...
                                    Mounting from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a failed with error 19.
                                    

                                    But importantly it was preceeded by this:

                                    ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
                                    ada0: <toshiba mk2018gap="" m1.42="" a=""> ATA-5 device
                                    ada0: Serial Number 32K60131T
                                    ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes)
                                    ada0: 0MB (0 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)</toshiba>
                                    

                                    Clearly 0MB is not a good size for a drive.  ;) Do you see anything like that? I got past it by setting the access mode to LBA in the BIOS.

                                    Steve

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                                      ramymamlouk
                                      last edited by

                                      I think I have already tried playing around with the LBA mode. One of my attempts was to disable the hard drive from the BIOS completely, and attempt to install on a USB thumbdrive, which also failed.

                                      An interesting attempt though, is that I tried booting off a nano-bsd image placed on a USB drive, while the hard drive disabled from the BIOS, which also failed.

                                      Could it be anything to do with the GPT partitioning that FreeBSD 10.1 uses by default?

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                                        HandleX
                                        last edited by

                                        Did you read this solution: [ https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/error-19-on-boot-from-usb-after-8-2-9-0-upgrade.30254/#post-173564 ]?

                                        It seems to be with old devices/BIOS etc.

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                                        • stephenw10S Offline
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Nope hadn't tried that. Not confirmed in the linked thread though. However it does sound like something that could potentially solve a number of open threads here. Thanks.  :)

                                          Steve

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                                            kaioh
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi,
                                            I Just had the error 19 problem and I solved it by booting with

                                            ufs:/dev/ada0s1a

                                            Thanks for the support.

                                            Unfortunately, I'm using a XenServer box (dit not snapshot :( ) so the nics changed name and now I have a long long night for reconfigure all the settings (about 10 nics)

                                            How about making the boot settings change permanent? Where should I look and edit configs?

                                            .: Kaioh :.

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