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    Alternative DNS Servers - no filter/censorship (buydomains.com problem)

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      MrGlasspoole
      last edited by

      Ok, i made some screen shoots of the settings i have now.

      @kejianshi
      I'm still not sure about the gateway.
      You said pointing to the modem is how grandmother did it: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=87678.msg483085#msg483085
      But then you said: "Don't mess with the gateways".

      And to make sure i get it right: With this settings i get name resolving directly from the 13 Root-Nameservers (Anycast aside)?
      If thats the case then why everywhere are this alternative DNS server lists and why is this not the default in routers from ISPs?

      I guess i change the title of this thread - maybe it helps others.

      Interfaces---LAN.png
      Interfaces---LAN.png_thumb
      Interfaces---WAN.png
      Interfaces---WAN.png_thumb
      Services---DNS-Resolver.png
      Services---DNS-Resolver.png_thumb
      Services---DNS-Resolver---Advanced.png
      Services---DNS-Resolver---Advanced.png_thumb
      System---Gateways---Edit-gateway.png
      System---Gateways---Edit-gateway.png_thumb
      System---General-Setup.png
      System---General-Setup.png_thumb

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        Name servers that return a bullshit IP address instead of NXDOMAIN for A records that don't exist are an abomination.

        I will be switching over to a resolver-based configuration this weekend now that I'm on 2.2.

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          well your resolver is on all all, which is not how I would set it up.

          Resolver should only listen on your lan port, and should only talk to other dns on your wan.

          And don't see how you expect pfsense to resolve anything - so its not going to be able to check for updates..

          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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            kejianshi
            last edited by

            You could deselect WAN without hurting anything or you could just not open port 53 on WAN…  Either way.  (P.S. Its not open) 
            It should work and resolve just fine the way you have it here.

            Easy way to check if your system is resolving and if you can get updates is to go to the main pfsense gui and see if it show "you are on current version"

            If it does, your pfsense is resolving fine for its self and probably for all the other machines on the LAN.

            Now, go to https://www.dnsleaktest.com/ and see how many resolvers show up.

            Hopefully its like...1

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              MrGlasspoole
              last edited by

              Selecting just LAN on "Network Interfaces" and "Outgoing Network Interfaces" gives the error:
              This system is configured to use the DNS Resolver as its DNS server, so Localhost or All must be selected in Network Interfaces.

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                kejianshi
                last edited by

                Select all.  Port 53 is closed on the WAN.  No issues there.

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                  MrGlasspoole
                  last edited by

                  Now only the gateway question is still open :)

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Then select both lan and localhost ;)  ALL is BAD practice!!

                    Here is mine

                    setupdnsresolver.png
                    setupdnsresolver.png_thumb

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                      kejianshi
                      last edited by

                      I wouldn't screw with the gateway…  unless you are in the mood to upgrade to a ISP/Modem combo that gets you a public IP on the pfsense wan?

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                        kejianshi
                        last edited by

                        Not sure if you know, but you select individual interfaces by holding the cntl key while clicking on the ones you want.

                        What johnpoz is saying is best - I was trying to keep it simple…

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                          MrGlasspoole
                          last edited by

                          @kejianshi:

                          Not sure if you know, but you select individual interfaces by holding the cntl key while clicking on the ones you want.

                          I know that :-) - My computer knowledge is good but pfSense is overwhelming :-)

                          So the important part here is that on "Network Interfaces" you just have the internal and
                          on "Outgoing Network Interfaces" the external stuff?

                          Gateway:
                          I did check my ISP router and i have the bridge option now.
                          I made the hack a year ago and the option was not there - seems like after
                          some firmware update it changed.
                          I have a warning "from manufacture not supported change".

                          So i can select LAN2 as bridged.
                          But if i do that and connect my pfSense WAN NIC to LAN2 i can not reach the router anymore with 10.0.0.1.

                          What changes do i need to make in pfSense to test it?
                          I guess in "Interfaces > WAN" and "System > Routing > Gateways"

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            Is your WAN DHCP or PPPoE?

                            (Or Static?)

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by

                              Wait.  If you select bridged your router is no longer a router so you might not be able to get to it any more at all and, frankly, who cares?

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                MrGlasspoole
                                last edited by

                                @Derelict:

                                Is your WAN DHCP or PPPoE?
                                (Or Static?)

                                Static - pictures of WAN and gateway settings are ad top of this page  :)

                                @Derelict:

                                Wait.  If you select bridged your router is no longer a router so you might not be able to get to it any more at all and, frankly, who cares?

                                I care cause the phone book, caller list, fax stuff and everything is handled by that box.
                                There are two phones connected to that box. You can't use dedicated VoIP phones with german
                                cable ISPs (VoC) cause they don't work. They don't give you the access data and it only works from
                                your box in your house (not like normal VoIP).

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                                  kejianshi
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes - I call it built in BS and multifunction trash designed to purposely remove your options.  Very familiar with the concept.

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                                    hda
                                    last edited by

                                    @MrGlasspoole:

                                    @Derelict:

                                    Is your WAN DHCP or PPPoE?
                                    (Or Static?)

                                    Static - pictures of WAN and gateway settings are ad top of this page  :)

                                    Meh, what is your connection protocol to your ISP ….

                                    You should get your public IP on WAN if bridged works or is supported at all, which you must test.
                                    Close your firewall WAN inbound vulnerabilities first.

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                                      MrGlasspoole
                                      last edited by

                                      @hda:

                                      Meh, what is your connection protocol to your ISP ….

                                      What do you mean by protocol?
                                      It's DOCSIS, IPv4…

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        Static - pictures of WAN and gateway settings are ad top of this page  :)

                                        At the top of what page?

                                        Forum users can set how many messages per page are shown.

                                        Please provide a link to the exact post or attach it again.  Thanks.

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                          MrGlasspoole
                                          last edited by

                                          Sorry: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=87678.msg483594#msg483594

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            Yeah, that's a static on 10.0.0.1.  If you're bridged to the internet you should, somehow, get a public IP on WAN.  This is usually accomplished with DHCP or PPPoE.

                                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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