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      sogseal
      last edited by

      Hi all,
      I cant seem to figure out…. my hands are down, maybe someone can help me out here.

      Here is setup and the issue.

      I could access my 2x routers and nas via wifi but not with my wired laptop.... and i woke up today, i only can access my nas via wifi.

      All my 5 NICs are intel 1 on board and 2x dual NICs.
      1. Assigned WAN to em4.
      2. Assigned LAN to em0 with static ip 192.168.1.1. And have a DHCP server (my laptop is connected to it)
      3. Assigned em1 to FreeNAS
      4. Assigned em2 to TP Link Archer C8 (gave it static ip in pfsense DHCP table 192.168.1.4( not in bridge mode...it doesnt have it! omg...)
      5. Assigned em3 to EA3500 (static ip 192.168.1.5 and its in bridge mode)
      6. interfaces > Bridge > created a bridge with lan/nas/2x routers
      7. firewall rules and added rule to nas/2x routers:
                                              a. PASS
                                              b. Interface to which ever im adding the rule
                                              c. TCP/IP Version IPv4
                                              d. Protocol any
                                              e. Source any
                                              f. Destination any

      Thank you for your time reading it and helping me.

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        doktornotor Banned
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        Completely broken. You have 4 interfaces on the same subnet.

        • Assign the BRIDGE to LAN, not individual interfaces. All those LAN emX should be set up as IPv4/IPv6 - None/None
        • Go to System - Advanced - System Tunables and flip net.link.bridge.pfil_member to 0 and net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge to 1
        • Reboot

        I'd suggest reset to factory defaults and restarting from scratch.

        Alternatively, get a $20 switch and stop wasting interfaces. Stick everything but the TP Link on the switch, set up a separate OPT interface (in a different subnet!!!) for the AP, connect it to the LAN port of the AP and turn off any DHCP there.

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          sogseal
          last edited by

          @doktornotor:

          Completely broken. You have 4 interfaces on the same subnet.

          • Assign the BRIDGE to LAN, not individual interfaces. All those LAN emX should be set up as IPv4/IPv6 - None/None
          • Go to System - Advanced - System Tunables and flip net.link.bridge.pfil_member to 0 and net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge to 1
          • Reboot

          I'd suggest reset to factory defaults and restarting from scratch.

          Alternatively, get a $20 switch and stop wasting interfaces. Stick everything but the TP Link on the switch, set up a separate OPT interface (in a different subnet!!!) for the AP, connect it to the LAN port of the AP and turn off any DHCP there.

          Thank you for you help.

          Got the bridge to work the way you described. I can access my ISP modem, but not the routers.
          I wanted to use the interfaces as a switch.
          I play around with it more see if i can make it work, if not ill go for alternate… dont like to spend money

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by

            "I wanted to use the interfaces as a switch."

            Yeah not designed to be switch..  Not doing yourself or you network any favors.

            "dont like to spend money"

            Guess you have a real issue with performance than as well ;)  I can assure you can get a switch with like 5 or 8 ports at gig for less than your dual port nic cost..

            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704042
            $20  Come on..  Why would you use up ports on your router that you could use as other segments because your so cheap to layout $20…  Get 8 port for 31...

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              sogseal
              last edited by

              @johnpoz:

              "I wanted to use the interfaces as a switch."

              Yeah not designed to be switch..  Not doing yourself or you network any favors.

              "dont like to spend money"

              Guess you have a real issue with performance than as well ;)  I can assure you can get a switch with like 5 or 8 ports at gig for less than your dual port nic cost..

              http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704042
              $20  Come on..  Why would you use up ports on your router that you could use as other segments because your so cheap to layout $20…  Get 8 port for 31...

              i was researching and you guys are 120% correct, i came up with buying a switch, i just ordered the same one  8). For some reason i though they would be more expensive. I appreciate you help gents. 2 days of headache and simple solution " got a switch for 20 bucks " thanks again.
              P.S. im going to have a hard time with a switch as well, hehe j/k ;D

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                kejianshi
                last edited by

                I can help with the switch…

                plug in the power.

                run a cat5 cable from your pfsense lan to any cat5 port on the switch.

                plug all your computers and laptops and stuff into any of the remaining switch ports you like in any order.

                Yep - That should do it...

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  It's a disease.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    sogseal
                    last edited by

                    @kejianshi:

                    I can help with the switch…

                    plug in the power.

                    run a cat5 cable from your pfsense lan to any cat5 port on the switch.

                    plug all your computers and laptops and stuff into any of the remaining switch ports you like in any order.

                    Yep - That should do it...

                    excellent! you made my day 8)

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                      sogseal
                      last edited by

                      @doktornotor:

                      Completely broken. You have 4 interfaces on the same subnet.

                      • Assign the BRIDGE to LAN, not individual interfaces. All those LAN emX should be set up as IPv4/IPv6 - None/None
                      • Go to System - Advanced - System Tunables and flip net.link.bridge.pfil_member to 0 and net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge to 1
                      • Reboot

                      I'd suggest reset to factory defaults and restarting from scratch.

                      Alternatively, get a $20 switch and stop wasting interfaces. Stick everything but the TP Link on the switch, set up a separate OPT interface (in a different subnet!!!) for the AP, connect it to the LAN port of the AP and turn off any DHCP there.

                      I appologize for double post, i got almost everything to work, except i cannot access opposing subnet:

                      interfaces i got:
                      1. WAN
                      2. LAN
                      3. ROUTER
                      Firewall NAT:
                      192.168.1.0  – LAN
                      192.168.2.0  -- ROUTER

                      Help :)

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Where are you testing from? How are you testing?
                        What firewall rules do have?
                        Do you see hits in the firewall logs when you try to access the other subnet?

                        Steve

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                          sogseal
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10:

                          Where are you testing from? How are you testing?
                          What firewall rules do have?
                          Do you see hits in the firewall logs when you try to access the other subnet?

                          Steve

                          I was pinging it from windows side, win 7 and other win 8 it was time out. I managed to get it working, by adding 2 firewall rules. I attached 2 pics. Thank you for you help. I love when things starting to work out!!!!!

                          **EDIT

                          I got excited…. I cant access my NAS server with //192.168.1.3, but I can access web gui, any ideas?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            By '//192.168.1.3' you mean access it as a Windows share? And you can access it that way from within the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet?
                            Does your NAS have any restrictions? It may not allow traffic from outside its own subnet. It may not be able to respond if it doesn't have a route back, so bad subnet mask or gateway.
                            Does the NAS have any logs you can look at?

                            Steve

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                              sogseal
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10:

                              By '//192.168.1.3' you mean access it as a Windows share? And you can access it that way from within the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet?
                              Does your NAS have any restrictions? It may not allow traffic from outside its own subnet. It may not be able to respond if it doesn't have a route back, so bad subnet mask or gateway.
                              Does the NAS have any logs you can look at?

                              Steve

                              yes I meant windows side, and yes I can access it within the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet. Its a FreeNAS. Im trying to find the logs but I don't see any, but here is network summary I got on freeNas:
                              Name IPv4 Address IPv6 Address
                              em0 192.168.1.3/24
                              Nameserver
                              192.168.1.1
                              192.168.2.1
                              Default route
                              192.168.1.1

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                This could also be windows firewall getting in the way. It will see the NAS as being in a different network zone so may not allow the traffic deppending how you have it set.

                                Steve

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                                  sogseal
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10:

                                  This could also be windows firewall getting in the way. It will see the NAS as being in a different network zone so may not allow the traffic deppending how you have it set.

                                  Steve

                                  thanks bud, ill play around with it more, if not ill connect my wifi router to my switch :)

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes if your going to route all traffic out a specific gateway, your vpnv4 then you have to allow rules to get to your other networks.  You can use the aliases for the network in the dropdown list, ie lan and rtn66u

                                    See how your lan rules show lan net for the source.

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                                      sogseal
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnpoz:

                                      Yes if your going to route all traffic out a specific gateway, your vpnv4 then you have to allow rules to get to your other networks.  You can use the aliases for the network in the dropdown list, ie lan and rtn66u

                                      See how your lan rules show lan net for the source.

                                      ahh i see, so add another rule for LAN : source LAN net Destination RTN66U net and for RTN66U: source RTN66U net and destination LAN net. Im beeing retarted, just woke up :) Thanks again for your help

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        I would not expect that to make any difference since those aliases are what you already had in place; LAN net = 192.168.1.0/24 and RTN66U net = 192.168.2.0/24. Unless I've misread something.

                                        Steve

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          doesn't make any difference to the rule..  but just makes it look cleaner ;)

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Yep, also means you don't have to change the firewall rules if you change the interface subnet.

                                            Steve

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