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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      Sorry.  Always works for me.

      If you're using 2.1 do this:

      Diagnostics > Command Prompt
      Execute Shell Command Command: dig @ip.address.of.forwarder.used.by.hosts.for.dns home.example.us

      If you're using 2.2 do this:

      Diagnostics > Command Prompt
      Execute Shell Command Command: drill @ip.address.of.forwarder.used.by.hosts.for.dns home.example.us

      What does it say?

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        colterlovette
        last edited by

        Ok, so running down the unbound resolver; it is indeed running.

        The host settings I'm editing are in the services->DNS Forwarder. I noticed that in the Services->DNS Resolver under advanced there is also a host section that mimics what is found under the DNS Forwarder Section.

        After some reading, the two are a one or the other scenario, yes? So, do I need to undo the Forwarder and enter the host into the Resolver to keep unbound running or should I disable unbound to revert back to dnsmasq (I did note that the documentation says to disable unbound to use resolver, but not that it's best practice if there is a better way).

        Edit: after looking at John's screenshot I answered my own question maybe. Editing….

        Edit 2:

        Success!!! So it seems the entire issue was the confusion around the forwarder and the resolver and my lack of knowledge about the unbound change in 2.2. So John, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

        Derelict, thank you for your patience and continuing help.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          Yes.  With the forwarder disabled the forwarder host overrides do nothing.  While you're in there go into the Advanced settings tab and check Harden Glue and Harden DNSSEC data.  Another thread.  Just trust me.

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            colterlovette
            last edited by

            @Derelict:

            Yes.  With the forwarder disabled the forwarder host overrides do nothing.  While you're in there go into the Advanced settings tab and check Harden Glue and Harden DNSSEC data.  Another thread.  Just trust me.

            Ok, done deal. Link to thread? Would love to know the why's.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=88466.0

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                colterlovette
                last edited by

                Nice read. Thank you for that. Having it defaulted seems like a must, to which Chris seems to have in mind for 2.2.1.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  I think maybe if you don't have forwarder enabled that that whole section should be not shown, so that this sort of thing can not happen..

                  Or the over rides should be common to both?

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Common to both would be nice.  Or at least a way to copy from one to the other.  But you should be able to enter overrides with it disabled so you can enter your overrides before switching from one to the other.

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                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                      doktornotor Banned
                      last edited by

                      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/4332 <– see the hint in here.

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                        colterlovette
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz:

                        I think maybe if you don't have forwarder enabled that that whole section should be not shown, so that this sort of thing can not happen..

                        Or the over rides should be common to both?

                        Would it be fair to say that, for the moment, the transition to the new service is just that; in transition? So maybe the idea is to have overlapping menus and options to keep both services alive for the masses (also to test the new availability before relying on it completely).

                        If this is the case, I would say there should be a selection option in the resolver to pick which service to use (never at the same time) and the corresponding menus within the GUI will simply work with whatever service is selected to be active.

                        Would this be logical?

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          I don't think the dns forwarder is going away any time soon.  The option is there to run both if you want.  But this new move to the resolver is confusing for many users, and having the over rides listed - its possible for example to do what you did put your over rides in the same section.

                          Its hard coding for layer 8 ;)

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