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      fakemoth
      last edited by

      Hello and thanks for working on this package! BBcan177 & wbennett77, can you please offer an estimation for the release of the final version? Or at least make a BIG post (an edit on the first page of the thread, something…) when you think it's production ready?

      It's just me: I am just starting with this and for now I am angry with snort :) , so if I throw anything else it would surely make a mess on my setup.

      GJ!

      Don't take the name of root in vain!

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        capitangiaco
        last edited by

        I've upgraded to 2.2
        I see pfblocker in the menu', but if I try to access it I see  ERROR: No valid package defined.!
        I've installed pfblockerng but it cannot start it cause it says:
        The Package 'pfBlocker' is currently Enabled. Either Disable pfBlocker, or 'Disable Validation Check' in pfBlockerNG
        (checkin the Disable Validation Check remove the error but pfblockerng doesn't insert rules in PF)
        How can I disable the old pfblocker ?

        thanks

        Giacomo

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        • BBcan177B
          BBcan177 Moderator
          last edited by

          @capitangiaco:

          How can I disable the old pfblocker ?

          HI capitangiaco,

          You can manually edit the config file    /conf/config.xml

          <config><enable_cb>on</enable_cb>
                                          <enable_log><inbound_interface>wan</inbound_interface>
                                          <inbound_deny_action>block</inbound_deny_action>
                                          <outbound_interface>lan</outbound_interface>
                                          <outbound_deny_action>reject</outbound_deny_action>
                                          <credits><donation></donation></credits></enable_log></config>

          and change the <enable_cb>on</enable_cb>  to

          <enable_cb></enable_cb>

          I will be adding a conversion and a proper uninstall to correct this issue going forward. The previous pfBlocker version is not maintained by me.

          Please make a backup before manually editing that file!

          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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          • BBcan177B
            BBcan177 Moderator
            last edited by

            @fakemoth:

            can you please offer an estimation for the release of the final version?

            Hi fakemoth,

            I am the Developer of pfBlockerNG.

            wbennett77 just posted the first post in this Thread which I Hijacked (with his permission of course  :) )

            The package is released. I set it as "Beta" until I was sure that it was stable. I hope to change that to "Stable" in the upcoming weeks. But there is no reason why you cannot install it in production. I have not seen any serious bugs so far and any bugs that are reported, have been promptly fixed.

            "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

            Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
            Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
            Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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            • BBcan177B
              BBcan177 Moderator
              last edited by

              @st4t1c:

              Thank you for the thorough answer, so my guess is that if an IP exists in two lists - one configured with "Deny Inbound" and one with "Deny Both", the "Deny Both" is the one that remains after deduplication?

              Hi st4t1c,

              De-duplication has nothing to do with the Firewall Rule processing order.

              Basically, pfSense Floating Rules are processed first (top to bottom), then the Interfaces are processed (top to bottom)… So on a first match of the Firewall Rule criteria, the firewall will act on the settings in that particular rule.

              If you want to have certain Rules to use a specific set of Alias/Lists, then you need to make "Alias Native" Rules to be able to fine-tune that functionality.

              "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

              Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
              Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
              Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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              • BBcan177B
                BBcan177 Moderator
                last edited by

                @phil.davis:

                Review it, test it, and feel free to include it yourself in the next bugfix version.

                Thanks Phil for spotting that… I ran it thru some testing and it looks correct now. Will get that into a commit.

                Here is a table to show the various Base Hour/Frequency Settings.

                
                Base Hour [ 0 ] 
                2hr  [0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22]
                3hr  [0,3,6,9,12,15,18,21]
                4hr  [0,4,8,12,16,20]
                6hr  [0,6,12,18]
                8hr  [0,8,16]
                12hr [0,12]
                
                Base Hour [ 1 ] 
                2hr  [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23]
                3hr  [1,4,7,10,13,16,19,22]
                4hr  [1,5,9,13,17,21]
                6hr  [1,7,13,19]
                8hr  [1,9,17]
                12hr [1,13]
                
                Base Hour [ 2 ] 
                2hr  [2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0]
                3hr  [2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23]
                4hr  [2,6,10,14,18,22]
                6hr  [2,8,14,20]
                8hr  [2,10,18]
                12hr [2,14]
                
                Base Hour [ 3 ] 
                2hr  [3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1]
                3hr  [3,6,9,12,15,18,21,0]
                4hr  [3,7,11,15,19,23]
                6hr  [3,9,15,21]
                8hr  [3,11,19]
                12hr [3,15]
                
                Base Hour [ 4 ] 
                2hr  [4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2]
                3hr  [4,7,10,13,16,19,22,1]
                4hr  [4,8,12,16,20,0]
                6hr  [4,10,16,22]
                8hr  [4,12,20]
                12hr [4,16]
                
                Base Hour [ 5 ] 
                2hr  [5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3]
                3hr  [5,8,11,14,17,20,23,2]
                4hr  [5,9,13,17,21,1]
                6hr  [5,11,17,23]
                8hr  [5,13,21]
                12hr [5,17]
                
                Base Hour [ 6 ] 
                2hr  [6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4]
                3hr  [6,9,12,15,18,21,0,3]
                4hr  [6,10,14,18,22,2]
                6hr  [6,12,18,0]
                8hr  [6,14,22]
                12hr [6,18]
                
                Base Hour [ 7 ] 
                2hr  [7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5]
                3hr  [7,10,13,16,19,22,1,4]
                4hr  [7,11,15,19,23,3]
                6hr  [7,13,19,1]
                8hr  [7,15,23]
                12hr [7,19]
                
                Base Hour [ 8 ] 
                2hr  [8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6]
                3hr  [8,11,14,17,20,23,2,5]
                4hr  [8,12,16,20,0,4]
                6hr  [8,14,20,2]
                8hr  [8,16,0]
                12hr [8,20]
                
                Base Hour [ 9 ] 
                2hr  [9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7]
                3hr  [9,12,15,18,21,0,3,6]
                4hr  [9,13,17,21,1,5]
                6hr  [9,15,21,3]
                8hr  [9,17,1]
                12hr [9,21]
                
                Base Hour [ 10 ] 
                2hr  [10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8]
                3hr  [10,13,16,19,22,1,4,7]
                4hr  [10,14,18,22,2,6]
                6hr  [10,16,22,4]
                8hr  [10,18,2]
                12hr [10,22]
                
                Base Hour [ 11 ] 
                2hr  [11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9]
                3hr  [11,14,17,20,23,2,5,8]
                4hr  [11,15,19,23,3,7]
                6hr  [11,17,23,5]
                8hr  [11,19,3]
                12hr [11,23]
                
                Base Hour [ 12 ] 
                2hr  [12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10]
                3hr  [12,15,18,21,0,3,6,9]
                4hr  [12,16,20,0,4,8]
                6hr  [12,18,0,6]
                8hr  [12,20,4]
                12hr [12,0]
                
                Base Hour [ 13 ] 
                2hr  [13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11]
                3hr  [13,16,19,22,1,4,7,10]
                4hr  [13,17,21,1,5,9]
                6hr  [13,19,1,7]
                8hr  [13,21,5]
                12hr [13,1]
                
                Base Hour [ 14 ] 
                2hr  [14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12]
                3hr  [14,17,20,23,2,5,8,11]
                4hr  [14,18,22,2,6,10]
                6hr  [14,20,2,8]
                8hr  [14,22,6]
                12hr [14,2]
                
                Base Hour [ 15 ] 
                2hr  [15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13]
                3hr  [15,18,21,0,3,6,9,12]
                4hr  [15,19,23,3,7,11]
                6hr  [15,21,3,9]
                8hr  [15,23,7]
                12hr [15,3]
                
                Base Hour [ 16 ] 
                2hr  [16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14]
                3hr  [16,19,22,1,4,7,10,13]
                4hr  [16,20,0,4,8,12]
                6hr  [16,22,4,10]
                8hr  [16,0,8]
                12hr [16,4]
                
                Base Hour [ 17 ] 
                2hr  [17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15]
                3hr  [17,20,23,2,5,8,11,14]
                4hr  [17,21,1,5,9,13]
                6hr  [17,23,5,11]
                8hr  [17,1,9]
                12hr [17,5]
                
                Base Hour [ 18 ] 
                2hr  [18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16]
                3hr  [18,21,0,3,6,9,12,15]
                4hr  [18,22,2,6,10,14]
                6hr  [18,0,6,12]
                8hr  [18,2,10]
                12hr [18,6]
                
                Base Hour [ 19 ] 
                2hr  [19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17]
                3hr  [19,22,1,4,7,10,13,16]
                4hr  [19,23,3,7,11,15]
                6hr  [19,1,7,13]
                8hr  [19,3,11]
                12hr [19,7]
                
                Base Hour [ 20 ] 
                2hr  [20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18]
                3hr  [20,23,2,5,8,11,14,17]
                4hr  [20,0,4,8,12,16]
                6hr  [20,2,8,14]
                8hr  [20,4,12]
                12hr [20,8]
                
                Base Hour [ 21 ] 
                2hr  [21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19]
                3hr  [21,0,3,6,9,12,15,18]
                4hr  [21,1,5,9,13,17]
                6hr  [21,3,9,15]
                8hr  [21,5,13]
                12hr [21,9]
                
                Base Hour [ 22 ] 
                2hr  [22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20]
                3hr  [22,1,4,7,10,13,16,19]
                4hr  [22,2,6,10,14,18]
                6hr  [22,4,10,16]
                8hr  [22,6,14]
                12hr [22,10]
                
                Base Hour [ 23 ] 
                2hr  [23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21]
                3hr  [23,2,5,8,11,14,17,20]
                4hr  [23,3,7,11,15,19]
                6hr  [23,5,11,17]
                8hr  [23,7,15]
                12hr [23,11]
                
                

                "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                  ntct
                  last edited by

                  Hello

                  I use multiple subnet for interface, use deny inbound and Enable Suppression

                  For example ,LAN have 192.168.1/24 and 163.22.51.126/25 (use Virtual IPs for multiple subnet)

                  IN alerts tabs, i found most suppress button is not  in source but in destination

                  Any idea?

                  Thanks~

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                  • BBcan177B
                    BBcan177 Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @ntct:

                    I use multiple subnet for interface, use deny inbound and Enable Suppression
                    IN alerts tabs, i found most suppress button is not  in source but in destination

                    Hi ntct,
                    I have a fix, if you are able to test it, send me a PM and I will give some instructions.

                    "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                    Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                    Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                    Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                      ntct
                      last edited by

                      I load new pfblockerng_alerts.php

                      It's corrected

                      Thank BBcan177!!

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                        pf3000
                        last edited by

                        @BBcan177:

                        Thanks Phil for spotting that… I ran it thru some testing and it looks correct now. Will get that into a commit.

                        Here is a table to show the various Base Hour/Frequency Settings.

                        
                        Base Hour [ 0 ] 
                        2hr  [0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22]
                        3hr  [0,3,6,9,12,15,18,21]
                        4hr  [0,4,8,12,16,20]
                        6hr  [0,6,12,18]
                        8hr  [0,8,16]
                        12hr [0,12]
                        
                        

                        How can I change Frequency? I can't find it anywhere.

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                          phil.davis
                          last edited by

                          When you add an Alias with a bunch of lists, you get to choose the Update Frequency. So for each Alias you can decide how often to check for updates.

                          As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                          If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                            pf3000
                            last edited by

                            I mean the frequency of the CRON Event found in the Alerts tab. It seems to run every 60 minutes. Should I be bothered about that?

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                            • BBcan177B
                              BBcan177 Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @pf3000:

                              I mean the frequency of the CRON Event found in the Alerts tab. It seems to run every 60 minutes. Should I be bothered about that?

                              The Alerts Tab is "hard-coded" to refresh every "60 seconds" if you click the "Auto-Refresh" checkbox. You shouldn't need to refresh more often. After a refresh, you should probably be analyzing the alerts  :)

                              "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                              Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                              Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                              Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                pf3000
                                last edited by

                                All my lists are set to update weekly.

                                The "NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at"…. it runs every 60 minutes. Is that normal?

                                Eg: Now it shows
                                NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  17:00  in  1  Minutes
                                After few minutes it shows
                                NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  18:00  in  59  Minutes

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                                • BBcan177B
                                  BBcan177 Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @pf3000:

                                  All my lists are set to update weekly.

                                  I would expect most lists to change daily and any good blacklists to be updated on an hourly basis. I can however add an option in the future to edit the cron settings (min/hour/day etc)

                                  "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                                  Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                                  Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                                  Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                    pf3000
                                    last edited by

                                    I'd be concerned if the hourly cron is actually pinging/contacting the block list servers every hour.

                                    iBlocklist for example changed their free download policy to weekly. "…10 TERAbytes of data for us each month......free users will only be able to download updated lists once per week." At that time I was using old pfblocker and it had only a maximum of 24 hrs update interval for lists. Then I disabled the update option and created a custom weekly cron job.

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                                      phil.davis
                                      last edited by

                                      @pf3000:

                                      All my lists are set to update weekly.

                                      The "NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at"…. it runs every 60 minutes. Is that normal?

                                      Eg: Now it shows
                                      NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  17:00  in  1  Minutes
                                      After few minutes it shows
                                      NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  18:00  in  59  Minutes

                                      Yes, it is normal. The cron job is set to run every hour. It checks what aliases have what frequency of update and runs updates for the ones that are due.
                                      In our case, if you only have Aliases that are set to update weekly, then the cron job will wake up 24*7=168 times a week, but 167 times it will quickly find it has nothing to do and exit.

                                      As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                                      If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                                        pf3000
                                        last edited by

                                        @phil.davis:

                                        Yes, it is normal. The cron job is set to run every hour. It checks what aliases have what frequency of update and runs updates for the ones that are due.
                                        In our case, if you only have Aliases that are set to update weekly, then the cron job will wake up 24*7=168 times a week, but 167 times it will quickly find it has nothing to do and exit.

                                        Okay great; thanks for the clarification : )

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                                        • BBcan177B
                                          BBcan177 Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @pf3000:

                                          I'd be concerned if the hourly cron is actually pinging/contacting the block list servers every hour.

                                          To add onto what Phil posted above, the first step is to compare the Alias Frequency setting to the current hour and if they are a match (ie needs to be updated) then the second step is to compare the previously downloaded files timestamp to the List providers URL. If the file remains unchanged, then the update for that list is skipped.

                                          iBlocklist for example changed their free download policy to weekly.

                                          Just so you know that the post you linked is from 2013. I have not seen any issues with IBlock restricting Downloads for the free service.

                                          I would also recommend that there are several other alternative lists available. If you are updating once per week, you are missing a lot of current threat analysis that these Threat Source providers have. I did post a few other Sources in this thread. There are lots of others. Just need to do your homework.  :)  But if you are just using pfBlockerNG for IBlock lists, then you are doing yourself a big injustice in my opinion.

                                          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                                          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                                          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                                          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                            Bummer
                                            last edited by

                                            Is anyone familiar with Block List at https://www.blocklist.de/en/index.html ? They look very interesting.

                                            I run Fail2Ban on my servers. It's set with a hair trigger that after 2 failed login attempts via SSH, FTP, etc the IP is blocked for 2 hours. It then sends out an email for the IP and ownership to me. Block List gets their IPs from servers running Fail2Ban. Their lists are updated every 30 minutes and it's free. So if I get a hack attempt and I have Fail2Ban notifiy Block List, they will then update their lists in 30 minutes. Tf I have pfBlockerNG checking every hour, that IP is automatically blocked from my entire network.

                                            At least the above sounds it could be too good to be true. So has anyone had any experience with them? Are there any holes in my theory?

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