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    • BBcan177B
      BBcan177 Moderator
      last edited by

      @phil.davis:

      Review it, test it, and feel free to include it yourself in the next bugfix version.

      Thanks Phil for spotting that… I ran it thru some testing and it looks correct now. Will get that into a commit.

      Here is a table to show the various Base Hour/Frequency Settings.

      
      Base Hour [ 0 ] 
      2hr  [0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22]
      3hr  [0,3,6,9,12,15,18,21]
      4hr  [0,4,8,12,16,20]
      6hr  [0,6,12,18]
      8hr  [0,8,16]
      12hr [0,12]
      
      Base Hour [ 1 ] 
      2hr  [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23]
      3hr  [1,4,7,10,13,16,19,22]
      4hr  [1,5,9,13,17,21]
      6hr  [1,7,13,19]
      8hr  [1,9,17]
      12hr [1,13]
      
      Base Hour [ 2 ] 
      2hr  [2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0]
      3hr  [2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23]
      4hr  [2,6,10,14,18,22]
      6hr  [2,8,14,20]
      8hr  [2,10,18]
      12hr [2,14]
      
      Base Hour [ 3 ] 
      2hr  [3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1]
      3hr  [3,6,9,12,15,18,21,0]
      4hr  [3,7,11,15,19,23]
      6hr  [3,9,15,21]
      8hr  [3,11,19]
      12hr [3,15]
      
      Base Hour [ 4 ] 
      2hr  [4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2]
      3hr  [4,7,10,13,16,19,22,1]
      4hr  [4,8,12,16,20,0]
      6hr  [4,10,16,22]
      8hr  [4,12,20]
      12hr [4,16]
      
      Base Hour [ 5 ] 
      2hr  [5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3]
      3hr  [5,8,11,14,17,20,23,2]
      4hr  [5,9,13,17,21,1]
      6hr  [5,11,17,23]
      8hr  [5,13,21]
      12hr [5,17]
      
      Base Hour [ 6 ] 
      2hr  [6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4]
      3hr  [6,9,12,15,18,21,0,3]
      4hr  [6,10,14,18,22,2]
      6hr  [6,12,18,0]
      8hr  [6,14,22]
      12hr [6,18]
      
      Base Hour [ 7 ] 
      2hr  [7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5]
      3hr  [7,10,13,16,19,22,1,4]
      4hr  [7,11,15,19,23,3]
      6hr  [7,13,19,1]
      8hr  [7,15,23]
      12hr [7,19]
      
      Base Hour [ 8 ] 
      2hr  [8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6]
      3hr  [8,11,14,17,20,23,2,5]
      4hr  [8,12,16,20,0,4]
      6hr  [8,14,20,2]
      8hr  [8,16,0]
      12hr [8,20]
      
      Base Hour [ 9 ] 
      2hr  [9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7]
      3hr  [9,12,15,18,21,0,3,6]
      4hr  [9,13,17,21,1,5]
      6hr  [9,15,21,3]
      8hr  [9,17,1]
      12hr [9,21]
      
      Base Hour [ 10 ] 
      2hr  [10,12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8]
      3hr  [10,13,16,19,22,1,4,7]
      4hr  [10,14,18,22,2,6]
      6hr  [10,16,22,4]
      8hr  [10,18,2]
      12hr [10,22]
      
      Base Hour [ 11 ] 
      2hr  [11,13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9]
      3hr  [11,14,17,20,23,2,5,8]
      4hr  [11,15,19,23,3,7]
      6hr  [11,17,23,5]
      8hr  [11,19,3]
      12hr [11,23]
      
      Base Hour [ 12 ] 
      2hr  [12,14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10]
      3hr  [12,15,18,21,0,3,6,9]
      4hr  [12,16,20,0,4,8]
      6hr  [12,18,0,6]
      8hr  [12,20,4]
      12hr [12,0]
      
      Base Hour [ 13 ] 
      2hr  [13,15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11]
      3hr  [13,16,19,22,1,4,7,10]
      4hr  [13,17,21,1,5,9]
      6hr  [13,19,1,7]
      8hr  [13,21,5]
      12hr [13,1]
      
      Base Hour [ 14 ] 
      2hr  [14,16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12]
      3hr  [14,17,20,23,2,5,8,11]
      4hr  [14,18,22,2,6,10]
      6hr  [14,20,2,8]
      8hr  [14,22,6]
      12hr [14,2]
      
      Base Hour [ 15 ] 
      2hr  [15,17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13]
      3hr  [15,18,21,0,3,6,9,12]
      4hr  [15,19,23,3,7,11]
      6hr  [15,21,3,9]
      8hr  [15,23,7]
      12hr [15,3]
      
      Base Hour [ 16 ] 
      2hr  [16,18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14]
      3hr  [16,19,22,1,4,7,10,13]
      4hr  [16,20,0,4,8,12]
      6hr  [16,22,4,10]
      8hr  [16,0,8]
      12hr [16,4]
      
      Base Hour [ 17 ] 
      2hr  [17,19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15]
      3hr  [17,20,23,2,5,8,11,14]
      4hr  [17,21,1,5,9,13]
      6hr  [17,23,5,11]
      8hr  [17,1,9]
      12hr [17,5]
      
      Base Hour [ 18 ] 
      2hr  [18,20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16]
      3hr  [18,21,0,3,6,9,12,15]
      4hr  [18,22,2,6,10,14]
      6hr  [18,0,6,12]
      8hr  [18,2,10]
      12hr [18,6]
      
      Base Hour [ 19 ] 
      2hr  [19,21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17]
      3hr  [19,22,1,4,7,10,13,16]
      4hr  [19,23,3,7,11,15]
      6hr  [19,1,7,13]
      8hr  [19,3,11]
      12hr [19,7]
      
      Base Hour [ 20 ] 
      2hr  [20,22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18]
      3hr  [20,23,2,5,8,11,14,17]
      4hr  [20,0,4,8,12,16]
      6hr  [20,2,8,14]
      8hr  [20,4,12]
      12hr [20,8]
      
      Base Hour [ 21 ] 
      2hr  [21,23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19]
      3hr  [21,0,3,6,9,12,15,18]
      4hr  [21,1,5,9,13,17]
      6hr  [21,3,9,15]
      8hr  [21,5,13]
      12hr [21,9]
      
      Base Hour [ 22 ] 
      2hr  [22,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20]
      3hr  [22,1,4,7,10,13,16,19]
      4hr  [22,2,6,10,14,18]
      6hr  [22,4,10,16]
      8hr  [22,6,14]
      12hr [22,10]
      
      Base Hour [ 23 ] 
      2hr  [23,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21]
      3hr  [23,2,5,8,11,14,17,20]
      4hr  [23,3,7,11,15,19]
      6hr  [23,5,11,17]
      8hr  [23,7,15]
      12hr [23,11]
      
      

      "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

      Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
      Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
      Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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        ntct
        last edited by

        Hello

        I use multiple subnet for interface, use deny inbound and Enable Suppression

        For example ,LAN have 192.168.1/24 and 163.22.51.126/25 (use Virtual IPs for multiple subnet)

        IN alerts tabs, i found most suppress button is not  in source but in destination

        Any idea?

        Thanks~

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        • BBcan177B
          BBcan177 Moderator
          last edited by

          @ntct:

          I use multiple subnet for interface, use deny inbound and Enable Suppression
          IN alerts tabs, i found most suppress button is not  in source but in destination

          Hi ntct,
          I have a fix, if you are able to test it, send me a PM and I will give some instructions.

          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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            ntct
            last edited by

            I load new pfblockerng_alerts.php

            It's corrected

            Thank BBcan177!!

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              pf3000
              last edited by

              @BBcan177:

              Thanks Phil for spotting that… I ran it thru some testing and it looks correct now. Will get that into a commit.

              Here is a table to show the various Base Hour/Frequency Settings.

              
              Base Hour [ 0 ] 
              2hr  [0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22]
              3hr  [0,3,6,9,12,15,18,21]
              4hr  [0,4,8,12,16,20]
              6hr  [0,6,12,18]
              8hr  [0,8,16]
              12hr [0,12]
              
              

              How can I change Frequency? I can't find it anywhere.

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                phil.davis
                last edited by

                When you add an Alias with a bunch of lists, you get to choose the Update Frequency. So for each Alias you can decide how often to check for updates.

                As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                  pf3000
                  last edited by

                  I mean the frequency of the CRON Event found in the Alerts tab. It seems to run every 60 minutes. Should I be bothered about that?

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                  • BBcan177B
                    BBcan177 Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @pf3000:

                    I mean the frequency of the CRON Event found in the Alerts tab. It seems to run every 60 minutes. Should I be bothered about that?

                    The Alerts Tab is "hard-coded" to refresh every "60 seconds" if you click the "Auto-Refresh" checkbox. You shouldn't need to refresh more often. After a refresh, you should probably be analyzing the alerts  :)

                    "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                    Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                    Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                    Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                      pf3000
                      last edited by

                      All my lists are set to update weekly.

                      The "NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at"…. it runs every 60 minutes. Is that normal?

                      Eg: Now it shows
                      NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  17:00  in  1  Minutes
                      After few minutes it shows
                      NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  18:00  in  59  Minutes

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                      • BBcan177B
                        BBcan177 Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @pf3000:

                        All my lists are set to update weekly.

                        I would expect most lists to change daily and any good blacklists to be updated on an hourly basis. I can however add an option in the future to edit the cron settings (min/hour/day etc)

                        "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                        Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                        Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                        Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                          pf3000
                          last edited by

                          I'd be concerned if the hourly cron is actually pinging/contacting the block list servers every hour.

                          iBlocklist for example changed their free download policy to weekly. "…10 TERAbytes of data for us each month......free users will only be able to download updated lists once per week." At that time I was using old pfblocker and it had only a maximum of 24 hrs update interval for lists. Then I disabled the update option and created a custom weekly cron job.

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                            phil.davis
                            last edited by

                            @pf3000:

                            All my lists are set to update weekly.

                            The "NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at"…. it runs every 60 minutes. Is that normal?

                            Eg: Now it shows
                            NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  17:00  in  1  Minutes
                            After few minutes it shows
                            NEXT Scheduled CRON Event will run at  18:00  in  59  Minutes

                            Yes, it is normal. The cron job is set to run every hour. It checks what aliases have what frequency of update and runs updates for the ones that are due.
                            In our case, if you only have Aliases that are set to update weekly, then the cron job will wake up 24*7=168 times a week, but 167 times it will quickly find it has nothing to do and exit.

                            As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                            If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                              pf3000
                              last edited by

                              @phil.davis:

                              Yes, it is normal. The cron job is set to run every hour. It checks what aliases have what frequency of update and runs updates for the ones that are due.
                              In our case, if you only have Aliases that are set to update weekly, then the cron job will wake up 24*7=168 times a week, but 167 times it will quickly find it has nothing to do and exit.

                              Okay great; thanks for the clarification : )

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                              • BBcan177B
                                BBcan177 Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @pf3000:

                                I'd be concerned if the hourly cron is actually pinging/contacting the block list servers every hour.

                                To add onto what Phil posted above, the first step is to compare the Alias Frequency setting to the current hour and if they are a match (ie needs to be updated) then the second step is to compare the previously downloaded files timestamp to the List providers URL. If the file remains unchanged, then the update for that list is skipped.

                                iBlocklist for example changed their free download policy to weekly.

                                Just so you know that the post you linked is from 2013. I have not seen any issues with IBlock restricting Downloads for the free service.

                                I would also recommend that there are several other alternative lists available. If you are updating once per week, you are missing a lot of current threat analysis that these Threat Source providers have. I did post a few other Sources in this thread. There are lots of others. Just need to do your homework.  :)  But if you are just using pfBlockerNG for IBlock lists, then you are doing yourself a big injustice in my opinion.

                                "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                                Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                                Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                                Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                  Bummer
                                  last edited by

                                  Is anyone familiar with Block List at https://www.blocklist.de/en/index.html ? They look very interesting.

                                  I run Fail2Ban on my servers. It's set with a hair trigger that after 2 failed login attempts via SSH, FTP, etc the IP is blocked for 2 hours. It then sends out an email for the IP and ownership to me. Block List gets their IPs from servers running Fail2Ban. Their lists are updated every 30 minutes and it's free. So if I get a hack attempt and I have Fail2Ban notifiy Block List, they will then update their lists in 30 minutes. Tf I have pfBlockerNG checking every hour, that IP is automatically blocked from my entire network.

                                  At least the above sounds it could be too good to be true. So has anyone had any experience with them? Are there any holes in my theory?

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                                  • BBcan177B
                                    BBcan177 Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes I use that list also but I do not participate in the IP sharing part.

                                    I use Ossec (part of my Security Onion deployment) on my servers which is similar to what fail2ban is doing. If you can get fail2ban to output the IP to a local logfile, You can have pfBlockerNG pull that file on an hourly basis to block that IP for your whole network. I actually block the whole /24. My mail server can get a spam email or a brute force attack from several different IPs in the same /24 over a short period of time. I really hate spammers and pfBNG really has cut down on my Inbound Spam traffic. (like over 95% reduction)… ;D

                                    "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                                    Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                                    Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                                    Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                      doktornotor Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      @Bummer:

                                      Is anyone familiar with Block List at https://www.blocklist.de/en/index.html ? They look very interesting.

                                      Yeah it works pretty well… Using it for mailservers.

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                                        Bummer
                                        last edited by

                                        Hey BBScan and doktornotor,

                                        Thanks for the input.

                                        I like that idea of subscribing to them because of the other IPs reported to them by Fail2Ban.

                                        Can you point me to instructions on how to prevent the duplication of IPs from several different lists? I've seen the de-duplication box to check, but surely it can't be that easy. There must be more to that.

                                        BTW, the new pfBlockerNG looks really great. It has a lot more bells and whistles I want to play with. It's just learning the terminology and playing with them. Much of this I've never messed wtih before.

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                                        • BBcan177B
                                          BBcan177 Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @Bummer:

                                          Can you point me to instructions on how to prevent the duplication of IPs from several different lists? I've seen the de-duplication box to check, but surely it can't be that easy. There must be more to that.

                                          Yup.. One checkbox to enable de-duplication. Then hit "Force Reload"

                                          BTW, the new pfBlockerNG looks really great. It has a lot more bells and whistles I want to play with. It's just learning the terminology and playing with them. Much of this I've never messed wtih before.

                                          Thanks. It was a lot of work. I hope users try to use more of the advanced features (like Reputation) to help protect their networks…

                                          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                                          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                                          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                                          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                            Bummer
                                            last edited by

                                            Hey BBScan177,

                                            Okay, now for stupid question #2…

                                            Yup.. One checkbox to enable de-duplication. Then hit "Force Reload"

                                            If I have the lists set to update hourly, daily, or whatever, the de-duplication remains? If that's the case, it's simple simon, too good to be true!

                                            Yes, I've seen the back and forth on reputation. I'm still not sure what it does, I can be a little slow on things like this. But once I get it down, them I'm on it!

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