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      jasonlitka
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      @lweddin1:

      Supermicro 2758 motherboard, I am looking for a quality PSU. The case I bought came with a 300-w psu that was garbage. Any suggestions? I have been reading posts say get platinum/gold….

      You need to tell us what kind of case you bought since not all boxes use the same size PSU.

      Also, which C2758 board?  SuperMicro's Mini-ITX Avoton/Rangeley boards can be powered directly by DC.  The uATX boards need an actual PSU for the AC->DC conversion.

      I can break anything.

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        lweddin1
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        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
        This is the psu I am thinking about getting.

        I currently don't have a case.

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          kejianshi
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          Looks nice and cheap with not alot of complaints…  Still, need to make sure it fits your case.

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            mir
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            I have this one in my pfsense 1U case: (Seasonic SS-250SU)
            http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/seasonic-psu-roundup-2_4.html#sect0

            Works flawlessly, quite and do so running very cool.

            This is my first Seasonic but not the last one.

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              maturola
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              @lweddin1:

              Supermicro 2758 motherboard, I am looking for a quality PSU. The case I bought came with a 300-w psu that was garbage. Any suggestions? I have been reading posts say get platinum/gold….

              Which Case did you get?

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                lweddin1
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                http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Atom/X10/A1SRM-2758F.cfm
                Micro ATX

                I am thinking about getting this PSU…
                http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16817371033

                No case right now, I returned it with the case I bought.

                I was thinking about this case
                http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OULNPA2/ref=s9_simh_gw_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-1&pf_rd_r=075P048836RM0G6RVWKW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2015187942&pf_rd_i=mobile

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                  blinkenlights
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                  @lweddin1:

                  Supermicro 2758 motherboard, I am looking for a quality PSU. The case I bought came with a 300-w psu that was garbage. Any suggestions? I have been reading posts say get platinum/gold….

                  Unless your configuration is pulling > 20% of the load rating continuously, you will not see a big difference between high-efficiency versus regular power supplies.  That said, my standard ATX/EPS form factor power supply is the SeaSonic SS-400FL2.  It has two features that make it worth my money: The modular cable system and the quality of the components.  It's also fanless and carries an 80 Plus Platinum rating, if that is your cup of tea.

                  I tend to use whichever PSU the vendor ships with rackmount cases.  There are some notable exceptions, but most vendors include an appropriate PSU up to the task of continuous duty med-/high-load draw.

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                    messerchmidt
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                    @lweddin1:

                    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
                    This is the psu I am thinking about getting.

                    I currently don't have a case.

                    get something more along the lines of server grade. get a corsair if you want to cheap out

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                      kejianshi
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                      I don't know - I like cheap when there are very low numbers of failure reports.

                      543 ratings and 90% of the people using that like it.  Cheap or not, its proven.

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                        Pylor
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                        EA-380D is supposedly delta OEM, which is about the best OEM you can get.  They're the ones who make power supplies for many company's servers.  Never look at newegg or amazon reviews, half the people who get items don't review, just the ones that have "coil whine" and blame it on the PSU instead of the load that they're putting on their PS.  Look at real reviews that use an oscilloscope the measure voltage regulation and ripple as loads change:

                        http://www.anandtech.com/show/3902/antec-earthwatts-ea-380d-green-380w

                        I normally prefer atleast gold efficiency for PSUs that go into machines running 24/7, but if you're going to keep it at a ridiculously low capacity (such as an atom cpu) it won't make much difference.  Corsair has been moving towards lower quality channel well PSUs for their low end, they're not as good as they once were for cheap PSUs:

                        http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=416

                        Edit:  Didn't see this post, but it's correct.

                        @blinkenlights:

                        Unless your configuration is pulling > 20% of the load rating continuously, you will not see a big difference between high-efficiency versus regular power supplies.  That said, my standard ATX/EPS form factor power supply is the SeaSonic SS-400FL2.  It has two features that make it worth my money: The modular cable system and the quality of the components.  It's also fanless and carries an 80 Plus Platinum rating, if that is your cup of tea.

                        I tend to use whichever PSU the vendor ships with rackmount cases.  There are some notable exceptions, but most vendors include an appropriate PSU up to the task of continuous duty med-/high-load draw.

                        That PSU is a bit pricey, but it's pretty amazing.  I ended up cheaping out and getting the Seasonic SSR-360GP instead which is gold rating + a fan.

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                          maturola
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                          What's your budget?

                          Supoermicro have a nice case for that board, with  500W+ supply

                          SuperChassis CSE-813MTQ-520CB

                          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811152112&cm_re=520CB--11-152-112--Product

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                            lweddin1
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                            I decided to call my local computer stores till I found a quality PSU. I ended up getting
                            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023&cm_re=tr2-430w--17-153-023--Product for $8.60 it was used but it tests out fine. I also picked up a computer case for $20. I decided I didn't care about the look right now. "Will post pictures later" I also bought two fans and now my system runs at 20.0 Degrees C it use to run around 55C.

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                              kejianshi
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                              Actually…  Its not bad for the price.  Price matters.

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                                lweddin1
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                                I am happy with this PSU over my last no name PSU. I am already noticing a huge difference. Random question, why I enter the BIOS config and turn on "Watchdog" why does my pfsense keep restarting after about 1 min after it boots up. If I turn off watchdog it runs fine.

                                Anyone have any reviews on this PSU? When you say price matters do you mean for $8 its an ok PSU? or overall its an ok PSU.

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                                  Pylor
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                                  I would not consider that a quality PSU, I wouldn't even use it.  Passive PFC shows its age.  I've looked for reviews on it but I can't find anything solid as it seems like they've changed the internals for the samme model since 2005 at least.  The efficiency is going to be somewhere around 73% at best, and I have no idea what the ripple would look like.

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                                    kejianshi
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                                    That was also my first thought, but at the price he got it for, unless it causes something to fry, I can't criticize it.

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                                      lweddin1
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                                      I have been running it for almost 24 hours now and everything seems stable. For the price I am happy with it & to have something up and running.

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                                        kejianshi
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                                        Lots of guys here have lots of money for tinkering so its always top of the line or nothing, which is a nice philosophy if you have the money for it.

                                        I prioritize reliability first and foremost so if, for the money, I get super reliable but less efficient, I'm ok.

                                        But when buying new components I do try to get both efficiency and reliability.  I have several of those old style psu running also and am quite happy.

                                        Have some of the new ones also and am also quite happy.  I'm easy.

                                        Plus I'm not going to toss out all my old/reliable proven gear just because someone somewhere got a better number on a benchmark.

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                                          Harvy66
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                                          Having worked on computer since a young child as both hobby and some decent money, how I afforded my Voodoo2, I'd rather go without than have to waste my time with crap hardware. I've been bitten way too many times.

                                          A lot of crappy hardware operate in a grey area where you get random problems from time to time with no perceivable pattern. High quality hardware tends to be binary, it works or it doesn't.

                                          An example of something like that is some low end PSUs will attempt with all of their might to keep supplying power, even if the voltage is out of spec. Higher end PSUs like to maintain voltage and if it drops too low, it cuts off all power at once and shutsdown. During my time as IT, I've seen times where many computers with cheap PSUs would cause corruption by allowing voltage sags through and not turning off.

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                                            Pylor
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                                            @kejianshi:

                                            Lots of guys here have lots of money for tinkering so its always top of the line or nothing, which is a nice philosophy if you have the money for it.

                                            I prioritize reliability first and foremost so if, for the money, I get super reliable but less efficient, I'm ok.

                                            But when buying new components I do try to get both efficiency and reliability.  I have several of those old style psu running also and am quite happy.

                                            Have some of the new ones also and am also quite happy.  I'm easy.

                                            Plus I'm not going to toss out all my old/reliable proven gear just because someone somewhere got a better number on a benchmark.

                                            Re-using old stuff is perfectly fine in most cases, I have an old 2008 ion/atom netbox computer that I still use as a small HTPC hooked up to a monitor for when I do my nightly cardio.

                                            But when it comes to powering something 24/7 and looking for a "quality PSU," as was stated in the subject of this thread, then no, that is NOT a quality PSU.  That's a cheap PSU that was considered low quality when it came out 7 years ago.  If OP is fine with hooking it up to his system, that's his choice.  I'm just saying I wouldn't have taken it for free, nor would I put it near a new $300+ motherboard/cpu combo.

                                            In the end it's your equipment and your decision.  I'm not suggesting you buy something top of the line, but just about anything modern is better than that PSU.

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