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    • SoloamS
      Soloam
      last edited by

      Ok, I had to google "PEBKAC" to understand what you where telling me :). I admit that the problem my be between keyboard and chair, but I can't seem to understand what! In the DNS Forwarder all was working ok, and as far as I can see all is set the proper way.

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        gjaltemba
        last edited by

        Did you read this thread?

        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=89159.0

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          cmb
          last edited by

          Specifically what config are you attempting?

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            phil.davis
            last edited by

            and you need to add the domain overrides to the DNS Resolver webGUI page, it does not use the ones previously defined in the DNS Forwarder. I guess you did that?

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            • SoloamS
              Soloam
              last edited by

              Hello, yes I did. I had all working in DNS Forwarder, the problem started when a switched to DNS Resolver. Here are my steps:

              • Deleted all entry's from DNS Forwarder and turnoff DNS Forwarder.
              • Enabled DNS Resolver

              Settings on the Resolver

              • Enable DNSSEC Support
              • Enable Forwarding Mode
              • Enable Register DHCP leases in the DNS Resolver
              • Disabled Register DHCP static mappings in the DNS Resolver
              • Disabled  If this option is set, then any descriptions associated with Host entries and DHCP Static mappings will create a corresponding TXT record.

              Domain Overrides:

              • Domain: thepiratebay.se
              • IP: 199.27.135.8

              Advanced settings on default

              On General Setup I have my DNS's and DNS Forwarder (127.0.0.1) is on.

              When I make a request to "thepiratebay.se" no page is displayed, and if I make a test on "DNS Lookup" I get random results. Sometimes I get a very huge time on 127.0.0.1 (5499 msec for example), sometimes error, and sometimes it retries a IP, but not what I set on the "Domain Overrides".

              I have some "Host Overrides" and they are working.

              If I set the Domain and ip on the hosts file in Windows it works. But I what it on the firewall so that it works on all my devices

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                phil.davis
                last edited by

                I am not sure what the issue is - I can resolve www.thepiratebay.se from here. Maybe there is some issue with DNSSEC, I am not sure if that option forces "DNSSEC or nothing". While waiting for suggestions from more knowledgeable folk you could try with DNSSEC Support disabled.

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                • SoloamS
                  Soloam
                  last edited by

                  My country is blocking piratbay via DNS. When I request thepiratebay.se the DNS kicks me to another IP. I could use other DNS, but these are a lot faster resolving for national IP's that for example google. So I set the DNS Overide so that the request stops on the DNS Resolver. But from what I can tell it seams that the DNS Resolver is ignoring my DNS Override

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                    phil.davis
                    last edited by

                    A Domain Override makes the DNS Resolver send requests for resolution of names in that domain to the specified IP. So it does not "stop at the DNS Resolver". When a client asks for "www.thepiratebay.se" then DNS Resolver is going to send the name resolution request to 199.27.135.8 for resolution. If 199.27.135.8 IP address is blocked somewhere then it will not be able to answer the resolver query.
                    If that is the problem, then I do not see how it worked with DNS Forwarder.

                    Host Overrides stop at the DNS Resolver and give a local answer straight away. But you have to put an entry for every name you want to use.

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                    • SoloamS
                      Soloam
                      last edited by

                      The IP 199.27.135.8 is not blocked. The only thing that it's blocked is when I ask my internet provider DNS the ip for the DNS thepiratbay.se it returns me another ip that points to a page that displays a message informing that the website is blocked.

                      So I set thepiratbay.se in the DNS Override with the correct IP but the override is not working. It keeps bypassing the Override and sending the requests to the "General Setup" DNS. This was working with no problems in the "DNS Forwarder" stooped working when I made the switch to "DNS Resolver". It works localy when I set the DNS in the host file of windows.

                      I tryed turning off "DNSSEC Support" but with no success..

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                      • BBcan177B
                        BBcan177 Moderator
                        last edited by

                        With "Unbound", you should not use "Forwarding Mode". The whole purpose of using Unbound is so that it resolves using the Root DNS servers and not use the DNS servers of your ISP or Google DNS for example.

                        You could also skip DNS resolution and type the IP address in the browser.

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                        • SoloamS
                          Soloam
                          last edited by

                          Typing the Ip on the browser bar would work, but not in this specific website. thepiratbay is hosted on cloudflare, that uses the same IP to several websites. It needs the correct host name to know witch site we are requesting.

                          So from whtat you say, it's back to DNS Forwarder. What I what in the end is, use local DNS and if it fails, send the request. That was the result of "DNS Forwarder"

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                            phil.davis
                            last edited by

                            The Domain Overrides should end up in /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf
                            Have a look in there and check that it has reasonable content.
                            After that, in DNS Resolver, Advanced Settings, you can set the "Log level verbosity". Then do "nslookup" from a client and see what comes in the DNS Resolver log. It might give some hints about why the resolver request is not being sent to where you expect.
                            So far I have only used Domain Overrides for internal domains, pointing to internal authoritative DNS servers, so I can't confirm if there is an issue with domain overrides to public DNS servers.

                            As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
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                              gjaltemba
                              last edited by

                              @soloam:

                              Domain Overrides:

                              • Domain: thepiratebay.se
                              • IP: 199.27.135.8

                              I believe the entry should be in Host Override. 199.27.135.8 is a your target ip. Domain overrides specify the ip for a DNS server.

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                              • SoloamS
                                Soloam
                                last edited by

                                /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf

                                stub-zone:
	name: "thepiratebay.se"
	stub-addr: 199.27.135.8
	stub-prime: no
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                                  phil.davis
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, here are some nslookup results:

                                  Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    thepiratebay.se
Addresses:  2400:cb00:2048:1::c71b:8708
          2400:cb00:2048:1::c71b:8608
          199.27.134.8
          199.27.135.8

                                  Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.thepiratebay.se
Addresses:  2400:cb00:2048:1::c71b:8608
          2400:cb00:2048:1::c71b:8708
          199.27.134.8
          199.27.135.8

                                  But maybe the DNS server for thepiratebay.se is at 199.27.135.8 as well as the web site itself.

                                  As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."
                                  If I helped you, then help someone else - buy someone a gift from the INF catalog http://secure.inf.org/gifts/usd/

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                                    gjaltemba
                                    last edited by

                                    If it is then it is down at the moment

                                    nslookup

                                    server  199.27.134.8
                                    Default server: 199.27.134.8
                                    Address: 199.27.134.8#53
                                    thepiratebay.se
                                    ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

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                                      cmb
                                      last edited by

                                      @soloam:

                                      /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf

                                      stub-zone:
	name: "thepiratebay.se"
	stub-addr: 199.27.135.8
	stub-prime: no

                                      That's correct if 199.27.135.8 actually answered DNS queries. It doesn't. If it ever responded with that config, it was at a time when that IP actually resolved DNS, and it doesn't now. Nothing to do with DNS Resolver or Forwarder, that's just not a valid config.

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                                      • SoloamS
                                        Soloam
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello all, the problem is solved, I changed the rule from Domain Overrides to Host Overrides and all started working again. I don't know what is wrong with Domain Overrides but now it's working

                                        Thank You for all your help
                                        Best Regards

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                                        • GruensFroeschliG
                                          GruensFroeschli
                                          last edited by

                                          With a Domain Override you override the default DNS server with a specific one for a specific domain.

                                          With Host Overrides you change the way you resolve domains locally.

                                          We do what we must, because we can.

                                          Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                          • SoloamS
                                            Soloam
                                            last edited by

                                            From what you say, it looks that what I would what is the Domain Override, but I had to change it. In the DNS Forwarder I had it working with the Domain Override. I'll try to find the problem so that I can get it back working with the Domain Override.

                                            Thank You

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