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    Really big problem to go to 2.2.2 from 2.2.1

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      NOYB
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      @Knight:

      . . .
      Nick

      Because cause if it is not being used there is no good that can come from it being enabled.  Only bad.  KISS and avoid the bad.  Like this issue, you never now when it will sneak up and bite.
      Disabling things in the BIOS that are not being used is not about saving energy.  It's about KISS.
      Yes, you should be getting the picture.
      There is a good and valid reason to do so here too.  Apply the KISS principle to things and life is easier.
      Many notebooks back in the dial-up days had built-in modems.

      Not a troll.  It's a serious message.  I really don't get leaving all that junk enabled if it is not being used.  Just makes no sense for router appliance that is desired to be as reliable as possible.  Less is more.

      It's a prudent KISS to turn it off.  In the words of Nike.  Just do it!  And be done with it.

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        NOYB
        last edited by

        Alright.  Who gave me my first smite?

        Can't believe someone would smite over this.

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          fakemoth
          last edited by

          Som critical info is missing here: when/how will this be solved, will we get an "emergency" update? Should I wait for an update or is this one of such importance that I should go with the update? I don't use IPv6, IPSEC, wireless and the web interface can't be accessed from WAN so I think the openssl vulnerabilities don't apply, please correct me if I am wrong. And I trust my LAN. Any other reasons?

          No other problems - only that since 2.2.1 and the other package updates I can't connect with openVPN (network manager) from my openSUSE 13.1; I keep up to date my openSUSE workstation. Works fine from Fedora or Android so I think the openSUSE dudes/updates messed something up, I will investigate.

          Don't take the name of root in vain!

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            hameno
            last edited by

            Is there any boot option we could use to override the setting thats caused this? My system has no serial port setting in the bios :(

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              mir
              last edited by

              Same problem here.

              Hardware: Asrock AMD E350M1
              pfSense: Full install
              Solution: Disable serial port in BIOS

              Will changing boot_serial="YES" to boot_serial="NO" in /boot/loader.conf solve the problem permanently?

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                heper
                last edited by

                @mir:

                Will changing boot_serial="YES" to boot_serial="NO" in /boot/loader.conf solve the problem permanently?

                sortof. "/boot/loader.conf" gets overwritten every time you update/reinstall pfSense. But the devs are aware of the issue now, so in the next release, they should have a permanent fix for it.

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                  oisteink
                  last edited by

                  @NOYB:

                  Because cause if it is not being used there is no good that can come from it being enabled.  Only bad.  KISS and avoid the bad.  Like this issue, you never now when it will sneak up and bite.
                  Disabling things in the BIOS that are not being used is not about saving energy.  It's about KISS.
                  Yes, you should be getting the picture.
                  There is a good and valid reason to do so here too.  Apply the KISS principle to things and life is easier.
                  Many notebooks back in the dial-up days had built-in modems.

                  Not a troll.  It's a serious message.  I really don't get leaving all that junk enabled if it is not being used.  Just makes no sense for router appliance that is desired to be as reliable as possible.  Less is more.

                  It's a prudent KISS to turn it off.  In the words of Nike.  Just do it!  And be done with it.

                  Still not sure if troll or not when you advocate disabling serial on a firewall "to keep it simple". You should rather fix the issue and keep the serial there so you can use it in case of emergency.

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                    Supermule Banned
                    last edited by

                    As I run it in a VM at home with no serial port connected, then no issues.

                    When I add the port, I get the issue described.

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                      hasangurbuz
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                      @mococanet:

                      After upgrade the errors come up :

                      Kdb: debugger backend: ddb

                      Amd64

                      Restalling everything right now!!!

                      Yes, same problem!
                      I try upgare and fresh install. But same result.

                      Restart to my Pfsense

                      Very very slowly write: Kdb: …......................

                      This is big problem!

                      Hasan Gürbüz
                      IT Systems Administrator & Programmer Analyst

                      …..

                      "Olduğu kadar, olmadığı kader!"

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                        mir
                        last edited by

                        "Warning: an issue was discovered post-release with a small minority of systems running a full install with no serial console enabled, where the boot is very, very slow because of a serial console-related change. Disabling the serial ports in the BIOS will work around this issue should you encounter it."

                        I think this is an understatement. It should read: "[..] a majority of systems running full install with no serial console[..]"

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                          Supermule Banned
                          last edited by

                          Its like EVERYBODY :D

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                            heper
                            last edited by

                            is this a feature thats been implemented after last weeks snapshot?
                            i personally haven't had much issue's with the snapshots last couple of weeks but now don't wish to upgrade to -release :)

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                              fragged
                              last edited by

                              @heper:

                              is this a feature thats been implemented after last weeks snapshot?
                              i personally haven't had much issue's with the snapshots last couple of weeks but now don't wish to upgrade to -release :)

                              You can simply check your current snapshot for the setting. My box seems to be fine with the setting with full pfSense (VGA). I've got an Intel SP1200K or some such motherboard.

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                                mococanet
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                                Dear Guys

                                Yesterday after this tragic error I had to be quick in decision, because here we have many workstations and all were stoped! So I quickly re-installed pfSense 2.2.1 and restored the backup, so everything is working again. So today I decided to upgrade to 2.2.2 again and the error happened again…. so, now i've disabled the serial port on the pfSense setup and the system boot normally. Thank you all. Here the image of the error, the letters write very slowly!

                                Cheers

                                IMG_1805.JPG
                                IMG_1805.JPG_thumb

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                                • jimpJ
                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  If the boot menu is fast, press option 3 to go to a loader prompt, then type

                                  unset boot_serial
                                  boot
                                  

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                                    mococanet
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Jimp,

                                    Yes nice tip! also to fix the problem I commented lines in /boot/loader.conf

                                    ##boot_serial="YES"
                                    ##comconsole_speed="9600"

                                    Cheers, thank you !!!

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                                      doktornotor Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      This issue can be also mitigated by connecting a compatible serial console to match the speed:

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                                        rsonline
                                        last edited by

                                        Same problems here, disabling serial fixed for me.  Dell Vostro 230.

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                                          kejianshi
                                          last edited by

                                          Yet another day of me be glad I am not using equipment with serial console…  (-:

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            Every box we ship has a serial console and near as we can tell from the testing, they're all fine, though we enable the serial console and force it on, since the serial console is the only console on most of these units.

                                            Problem seems to be if specific to certain hardware combinations and only those that both have a hardware serial port and also have it disabled.

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