Ubiquiti edgerouter lite support?
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Still I think the pfSense folks should look into a low end system that would run pfSense, maybe without all the fancy crypto and such. Just something good enough for a serious home user or small office with limited needs. Hand a consultant a $99 box that just works and he can use to shave $400 off his low-ball bid and you'll get a big grin.
Just wanted to express my agreement… Think I could place a lot of $99 boxes with the following specs...
1.) Low-end Atom or equivalent CPU
2.) 2GB memory
3.) 16GB drive (either SSD or spinning)
4.) 2 or more ethernet ports
5.) < 20 watts at idleSeems like this aught to be doable (minus the drive - perhaps).
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For the internal drive maybe an option for either a USB stick, CF, SD or a microSD card for an embedded install or an M2 slot drive for a normal install? Put both connectors on the basic hardware to keep inventory down but upsell the M2 version for more so the no-option entry price still looks great. Also offer preloaded cards or M2 drives as an after purchase option for folks that change their minds and possibly make a few more bucks
Three ports would be great, that third port opens up many possibilities. Just two is really limiting unless you have a smart switch and a bit more networking skill. Maybe depending on the Ethernet chip capabilities they could offer a dual port Intel solution or a quad port version, again as an upsell off the base offering. Don't know what would price out better, doing two - two port Intel controller pads and only populating one for a dual port system or having a dual and quad port board with different controllers.
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For the internal drive maybe an option for either a USB stick, CF, SD or a microSD card for an embedded install or an M2 slot drive for a normal install? Put both connectors on the basic hardware
Agree - if it had the connectors and a SATA connector (one would be sufficient) then it would work for those doing a full install.
Three ports would be great, that third port opens up many possibilities. Just two is really limiting unless you have a smart switch and a bit more networking skill. Maybe depending on the Ethernet chip capabilities they could offer a dual port Intel solution or a quad port version, again as an upsell off the base offering.
The option for a 2 port would be nice if it were cheaper… I know multiple ports give more options, but I've built several boxes with multiple ports and never really needed them in the typical home install. I've always just plugged a dumb switch into the LAN port an hung an access point off of it.
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Still I think the pfSense folks should look into a low end system that would run pfSense, maybe without all the fancy crypto and such. Just something good enough for a serious home user or small office with limited needs. Hand a consultant a $99 box that just works and he can use to shave $400 off his low-ball bid and you'll get a big grin.
Just wanted to express my agreement… Think I could place a lot of $99 boxes with the following specs...
1.) Low-end Atom or equivalent CPU
2.) 2GB memory
3.) 16GB drive (either SSD or spinning)
4.) 2 or more ethernet ports
5.) < 20 watts at idleSeems like this aught to be doable (minus the drive - perhaps).
The Netgate 2220 RCC-DFF meets all of your requirements except price, and has a 4GB eMMC on-board (a M.2 socket is available if you need something larger.)
http://store.netgate.com/ADI/RCC-DFF-2220-board.aspx
Way less than 20W at idle, btw.
Supports AES-NI, too.
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@BlueKobold:
@stan-qaz
I really know what you mean, but comparing a OpenSource Project to NASDAQ notated company
with an income of $500 million to $1 billion (USD) per year, is not really a fair trail as I see it right!They can promote and substitute devices like they want, but on the other side pfSense is
trying to get some money over the support to keep the project alive or let this project
growing, and this are two fundamental other playgrounds in my eyes.Yeah, but what you don't know is that Jamie and I nearly bought Ubiquiti back in the day.
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@gonzopancho:
@BlueKobold:
@stan-qaz
I really know what you mean, but comparing a OpenSource Project to NASDAQ notated company
with an income of $500 million to $1 billion (USD) per year, is not really a fair trail as I see it right!They can promote and substitute devices like they want, but on the other side pfSense is
trying to get some money over the support to keep the project alive or let this project
growing, and this are two fundamental other playgrounds in my eyes.Yeah, but what you don't know is that Jamie and I nearly bought Ubiquiti back in the day.
Naaah I don´t believe you on that point, stop kidding please.
And for sure with Intel QuickAssist and AES-NI support came
new things to pfSnese that could be also very interesting,…......but if UBNT at one day perhaps is willing to changes the hardware inside of the
whole EdgeRouter series it could be a good point for you and Netgate to get the
hands on the hardware production of the entire Edge family as they exist now,
ok not really total, but if they don´t need it any more this could be a support
to the OpenSource Project pfSense, is this right? For sure without the UBNT
Logo and the name of the EdgeRouter series and perhaps with $5 for each
sold router to UBNT as something like a license fee or what ever this could
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@gonzopancho:
The Netgate 2220 RCC-DFF meets all of your requirements except price, and has a 4GB eMMC on-board (a M.2 socket is available if you need something larger.)
Ouch!!! big difference in price though… $198 for the bare board and $279 in an enclosure - that's a long way from a $100 all-in-one box! Perhaps what we are seeking just isn't possible at the price point?
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What you're asking for isn't possible. Your price point is far to low to support same.
Look at the Minnowboard Max (http://www.minnowboard.org/meet-minnowboard-max/): 2 core Baytrail Atom @ 1.33GHz, 2 GB RAM, 1 RealTek Ethernet, no storage, no case, no PS:
$145.95: http://www.alliedelec.com/minnowboard-999-0004910/70413112/
$145.95: http://avnetexpress.avnet.com/store/em/EMController/Development-Kits/Circuitco-Electronics-LLC/999-0004910/_/R-5004466352587/A-5004466352587/An-0?action=part&catalogId=500201&langId=-1&storeId=500201&listIndex=-1&page=1&rank=1
$145.95: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/CircuitCo/MINNOWBOARD-MAX-DUAL/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs9lZI8ah3py%2f9KKP2eiFfZsbAbf7dOFFRyaqaqEqmd8g%3d%3d
$145.95: http://store.netgate.com/MinnowBoardMax.aspx
$139.00: http://parts.arrow.com/item/detail/circuitco/minnowboardmax-dual#MJMy
$139.00: http://www.technodisti.com/online-store/boards/minnowboard-max-dual-core-detail.htmlOne of those links should look … very familiar to you.
Now, RCC-DFFv2 is 2 Intel Ethernet, 2 Core C2338 @1.7GHz, 2GB RAM, 4 GB eMMC, 1 x miniPCIe (with miniSIM), 1 x M.2 ('M' keyed):
So for $52 - $59, the adds are: faster CPU, 2 (better) Ethernets, 4GB eMMC, and miniPCIe and M.2.
The $99 ERL is never going to keep-up with it. I'm still committed to producing a experimental version of pfSense for the ERL, but it's that, experimental, and right now it's waiting on a fix to the toolchain.
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@BlueKobold:
@gonzopancho:
@BlueKobold:
@stan-qaz
I really know what you mean, but comparing a OpenSource Project to NASDAQ notated company
with an income of $500 million to $1 billion (USD) per year, is not really a fair trail as I see it right!They can promote and substitute devices like they want, but on the other side pfSense is
trying to get some money over the support to keep the project alive or let this project
growing, and this are two fundamental other playgrounds in my eyes.Yeah, but what you don't know is that Jamie and I nearly bought Ubiquiti back in the day.
Naaah I don´t believe you on that point, stop kidding please.
And for sure with Intel QuickAssist and AES-NI support came
new things to pfSnese that could be also very interesting,…......but if UBNT at one day perhaps is willing to changes the hardware inside of the
whole EdgeRouter series it could be a good point for you and Netgate to get the
hands on the hardware production of the entire Edge family as they exist now,
ok not really total, but if they don´t need it any more this could be a support
to the OpenSource Project pfSense, is this right? For sure without the UBNT
Logo and the name of the EdgeRouter series and perhaps with $5 for each
sold router to UBNT as something like a license fee or what ever this could
be called.It's true. Robert Pera was, at one point, ready to throw in the towel. His business partners had quit to get "real jobs", and he was up to his ass in debt. Jamie and I (as Netgate) were working with him on the AP-1 (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16837399) which was a total failure. Then Robert moved back in with his mother, focused on the Cardbus cards, saved the company, and now he owns an NBA team.
If I wanted to engineer at MIPS-based 3 Ethernet router, I would. It's not like I don't have any experience with similar: http://archive.linuxgizmos.com/a-sneak-preview-of-musenkis-new-wireless-access-point-a/
It's not interesting right now.
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the pfSense 2.2.2 has support for the edge router? it would be interesting, as the freebsd 10 mips already runs .. anyone know if we can test ..
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the pfSense 2.2.2 has support for the edge router? it would be interesting, as the freebsd 10 mips already runs .. anyone know if we can test ..
That there is a fork from FreeBSD 10.x for mips means not that there is also a pfSense fork.
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@BlueKobold:
the pfSense 2.2.2 has support for the edge router? it would be interesting, as the freebsd 10 mips already runs .. anyone know if we can test ..
That there is a fork from FreeBSD 10.x for mips means not that there is also a pfSense fork.
Hi :)
Can you link to both fork ?
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@BlueKobold:
the pfSense 2.2.2 has support for the edge router? it would be interesting, as the freebsd 10 mips already runs .. anyone know if we can test ..
That there is a fork from FreeBSD 10.x for mips means not that there is also a pfSense fork.
Hi :)
Can you link to both fork ?
Thanks :PFor the fork of the mips based FreeBSD you might be asking @thiagomespb, he was telling about that
FreeBSD 10 is running on mips based UBNT EdgeRouter and not me, and for the pfSense there is not
a fork up now, as I am right informed!
