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      kejianshi
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      mSATA and SSD are both SSD…

      There really is no difference other than the shape of the case.  (Or lack there of)

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        almabes
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        @kejianshi:

        mSATA and SSD are both SSD…

        There really is no difference other than the shape of the case.  (Or lack there of)

        I have to respectfully disagree with you.

        From a usage perspective, there is no difference.  Both look, smell, and taste like a hard drive.  The required electrical connections are the same.

        Physically the interfaces are quite different though, in addition to the lack of a case.

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          kejianshi
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          Yes, yes, yes.  The shape of the connector is different, but its the same other than shape.

          Getting into a geek-off isn't my point though.

          My point is simply that he won't notice any difference in performance between the two.

          Actually I suspect eventually mSATA or something like it will replace all the 2.5in laptop drive sized stuff.

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            clugo633
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            Performance was biggest concern.  Thx

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              kejianshi
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              mSATA should be fine.  Which one will you get?

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                almabes
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                Once pfSense is booted its not going to be hammering the ssd unless you have a squid cache running, caching, and logging.

                Longevity wise, get the largest ssd within your budget.  Then let the wear leveling algorithms do their magic and keep your ssd going for the life of your firewall.

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                  kejianshi
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                  TRIM or crash…

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                    almabes
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                    Don't forget a UPS.  The ufs file system does not take kindly to the firewall being shut down less than gracefully.  Something about fsck being brain dead, according to one of doktornotor's posts.

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                      almabes
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                      @kejianshi:

                      Actually I suspect eventually mSATA or something like it will replace all the 2.5in laptop drive sized stuff.

                      Once the drive manufacturers get the tech shrunk enough, our mSATA SSDs will be native PCIe instead of having to go through a SATA HBA. 
                      The mSATA connector is physically compatible with PCIe x1.  Laptop manufacturers already make devices with switchable PCIe/mSATA ports.

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                        clugo633
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                        I was about to order this one:

                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1XA5371

                        Is that too small?  If so, I'll move to SSD because their priced better.

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                          kejianshi
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                          Its not too small.

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                            almabes
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                            That's the one netgate puts in the APU for an additional $69.  It will work perfectly.

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                              clugo633
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                              theres also this one for $20 more….

                              http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-mSATA-2-Inch-MZ-M5E120BW/dp/B00TGIVQ4G/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1430176491&sr=8-10&keywords=Toshiba+mSATA

                              Necessary?  Could use that 20 on something else.

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                                almabes
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                                @clugo633:

                                theres also this one for $20 more….

                                http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-mSATA-2-Inch-MZ-M5E120BW/dp/B00TGIVQ4G/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1430176491&sr=8-10&keywords=Toshiba+mSATA

                                Necessary?  Could use that 20 on something else.

                                It depends on what you want to do with your firewall. 
                                I have 50 users on network running through an APU with squid caching and logging, squidguard blocking and logging, and lightsquid keeping an eye on all of them.  It has 4GB RAM and the 30GB SSD.  I only use about 4GB for squid's cache.  It works very well.  I never run into out of space issues.

                                If you want to save the $20, then save the $20.  If you want to spend it on a bigger SSD, then do so.  There really isn't a wrong answer.

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