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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      almabes
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      Seven LAN ports…BAM!
      ;)

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        stealthrt
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        Would those who are serious here on this forum to help others please PM me so that I can not waste my time reading stupid reply's that help me 0% to my original question for help. Thanks.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          Reset to factory.

          Configure your WAN.

          Leave LAN at default.

          Plug a computer into LAN.

          You'll be online.

          Then add one system at a time.  No need to fart around with a wireless access point if you don't have working internet yet.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            stealthrt
            last edited by

            @Derelict:

            Reset to factory.

            Configure your WAN.

            Leave LAN at default.

            Plug a computer into LAN.

            You'll be online.

            Then add one system at a time.  No need to fart around with a wireless access point if you don't have working internet yet.

            Thanks for the helpful advice, Derelict.

            Now what do i need to set the other LANs 3-8 to/as so that it mimics like LAN 2 is currently set to?

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              How am I supposed to know what LAN 2 is currently set to?

              Assign the interface
              Edit the interface, assign an IP address/subnet
              Edit DHCP to match
              Create firewall rules

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                stealthrt
                last edited by

                @Derelict:

                How am I supposed to know what LAN 2 is currently set to?

                Assign the interface
                Edit the interface, assign an IP address/subnet
                Edit DHCP to match
                Create firewall rules

                Lan2 is set to 192.168.1.1 (static) (with a DHCP range from 192.168.1.10 to 192.168.1.254 with submask set to 255.255.255.0).

                So I am guessing that Lan3-8 should be something like this:

                Lan3 set to (static) 192.168.1.2
                Lan4 set to (static) 192.168.1.3
                Lan5 set to (static) 192.168.1.4
                Lan6 set to (static) 192.168.1.5
                Lan7 set to (static) 192.168.1.6
                Lan8 set to (static) 192.168.1.7

                Would that be correct? I tried a few things last night but once i unhooked LAN2 (but still had LAN3 connected) it didn't seem to have internet nor admin panel connection any longer.

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  So I am guessing that Lan3-8 should be something like this:

                  Lan3 set to (static) 192.168.1.2
                  Lan4 set to (static) 192.168.1.3
                  Lan5 set to (static) 192.168.1.4
                  Lan6 set to (static) 192.168.1.5
                  Lan7 set to (static) 192.168.1.6
                  Lan8 set to (static) 192.168.1.7

                  Why are you guessing anything?  There's no guessing involved in this field.  It's all standards-based with precise rules on how you do things.  You will need to understand IP subnetting to make this work.

                  Lan3 set to (static) 192.168.2.1
                  Lan4 set to (static) 192.168.3.1
                  Lan5 set to (static) 192.168.4.1
                  Lan6 set to (static) 192.168.5.1
                  Lan7 set to (static) 192.168.6.1
                  Lan8 set to (static) 192.168.7.1

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    almabes
                    last edited by

                    Do you even have one LAN port passing traffic to WAN yet?  I haven't seen a posting indicating that is the case yet.

                    Have you read the basics of how to write firewall rules?  Do you have any understanding of IP routing?

                    If not, connecting and trying to bring up all 6 other interfaces is going to do nothing but make your pfSense firewall an over-complicated mess.  You've got to walk before you run.

                    Work on getting the interfaces up one at a time.  No, 7 is not better than 1, it's just more complicated and prone to failure if you don't know what you're doing (and why you're doing it).

                    pfSense is not a switch, its a firewall.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      I am with almabes here - why are you trying to bring up all of the interfaces at once??  Get your 1 wan and 1 lan working - then play with the others.  Do you even have a smart/managed switch that will allow you to run all those other segments 192.168.6, 192.168.7 etc..

                      Or you do you plan on running 7 different segments over the same physical wire?

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                        tim.mcmanus
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                        Can you draw out what you want your network to look like?  I'm much better with visuals than text descriptions.

                        If you're going to set up a network that has a WAN, LAN, and WiFi, you only need three ports.  If your switch is a layer 3 switch, you could create VLANs on your LAN, but that's only if the switch will support it.  Otherwise, those additional NICs will sit unused.  There is no technical advantage to having more than one NIC on your switch, and it can actually cause problems if you misconfigure something (like not properly creating VLANs and firing up two DHCP servers).

                        So if you can help me understand what you want to do, it'll be easier for me to get you there.

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                          stealthrt
                          last edited by

                          To all of your questions:

                          Yes, WAN and my first LAN1 works. I have internet and the PC thats connected to a netgear switch is assigned the correct IP range.

                          I tried following these sets here:

                          https://www.all4os.com/router/bridge-multiple-lan-portsnics-to-act-like-a-router-in-pfsense-2-1.html

                          Step 1: Assign an individual IP for all NICs by going to 'Interfaces → Assign'. Important!
                          Note: Only set up a IPv4 address for each NIC.

                          Step 2: Set up DHCP on NIC1 by going 'Services → DHCP server'

                          Step 3: Bridge other NICs by going to 'Interfaces → Assign → Bridges' and set up an IP for the interface.
                          Note: Do not include WAN and NIC1.

                          Step 4: Create a interface groups by going to 'Interfaces → Assign → Interface Groups'.
                          Note: Include all NICs and Bridge interface in "Member (s)", do not include WAN.

                          Step 5: Change the default firewall rule under NIC1 to all NICs interfaces to avoid being locked out by going to 'Firewall → Rules'
                          Note: Change the Interface from NIC1 to the Interface groups which is created in Step 4.

                          Step 6: Enable DHCP on the bridge interface by going to 'Services → DHCP server'.

                          Step 7: Disable DHCP on NIC1 by going to 'Services → DHCP server' and include NIC1 into the bridge which is set up in Step 3 by going to 'Interfaces → Assign → Bridges'.

                          Step 8: reboot and test.

                          And when i disconnected LAN2 and still have LAN3 connected it went offline and i was unable to log into the PFSence box or browse the internet.

                          What I am wanting to do is this:

                          Have all LANs 2-7 as DHCP so that, say, if i disconnect LAN2 from the switch its connected to then the PC(s) that are using that switch still have LANs 3-7 connected to that switch to stay online with (no downtime since it still has those other connections from the PFSense box).

                          The switch i will be using is the NETGEAR 24 Port Gigabit Business-Class Rackmount Switch - JGS524.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            You need 6 interfaces in failover – REALLY??  6 of them??

                            Kind of pointless to have 6 lan failover ports with 1 wan..  What happens when that wan fails, then your 6 failover ports are kind of completely pointless and useless..

                            Your switch JGS524 is what they call a DUMB switch, not managed no VLAN support switch.. You can not do anything with that piece of junk.  No lagg, no vlans, have to to assume no stp (spanning tree) see see no mention of it in specs - but yeah lets connect 6 interfaces in a bridge to a non spanning tree dumb switch..  Fantastic idea :rolleyes:

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                              robi
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                              stealthrt - the truth is that in your case you don't need all those LAN ports in pfSense. Anything you're trying to do with the extra ports, will do more harm than good.

                              What you could actually do with them, is to create separate networks (using separate switches) with each LAN port to separate traffic of those networks from each other. You could run a network separately for your kids, one for yourself, one for your neighbor, one for wifi, etc.
                              Do you intend to use it like that? If yes, you may need many ports.

                              If not, one single WAN and one single LAN are enough. You don't need to use the others.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                The only way you can connect more than one of those LAN ports to your switch is as part of a LAGG but it seems like your current switch doesn't support that. Connecting more than one port currently would be a bad idea.
                                You can configure the ports in a bridge as you described and then connect other clients to that directly if you want. Others here will tell you it's a waste of ports though and not as good as using a real 8 port switch.
                                Are you able to connect a client to any of those other LAN ports and get internet access?

                                Steve

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