My opinion is that pfSense is becoming unusable…
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Or at min a easy planned ahead rollback plan.
x 1,000,000. Before I upgrade, I have:
- a snapshot
- a full backup
- a config.xml backup.
Doing an upgrade of anything without a rollback plan is just stupid, like going without insurance.
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That's also why I love CF-based NanoBSD. I never upgrade the CF card in the system. I always take a fresh CF with a freshly dd'ed image on it, restore the config from the previous version (using similar hardware usually put on a shelf for spare). When finished, just power off the live system, swap the CF card and power on.
I still have the old CF card with the previous working version in my pocket, which I can pop back in if it turns out later that for some reason we don't like the upgrade. Some things can be detected weeks later…
And it's also the fastest way to do the upgrade, you only have downtime during power on...
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@KOM:
Or at min a easy planned ahead rollback plan.
x 1,000,000. Before I upgrade, I have:
- a snapshot
- a full backup
- a config.xml backup.
Doing an upgrade of anything without a rollback plan is just stupid, like going without insurance.
I'd like to add that I always have the installer for the version that I am currently running in the event I need to wipe and roll back.
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That's also why I love CF-based NanoBSD. I never upgrade the CF card in the system. I always take a fresh CF with a freshly dd'ed image on it, restore the config from the previous version (using similar hardware usually put on a shelf for spare). When finished, just power off the live system, swap the CF card and power on.
I still have the old CF card with the previous working version in my pocket, which I can pop back in if it turns out later that for some reason we don't like the upgrade. Some things can be detected weeks later…
And it's also the fastest way to do the upgrade, you only have downtime during power on...
I guess you never noticed the previous working version is still there on the alternative slice…
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OFF topic:
Lately it happened with several Windows 7 freshly installed HP machines in my environment that after a regular Windows Update procedure (which installed about 100 updates), after reboot, they just went BSOD. I had to reinstall them from scratch… and it happened again. Turned out a specfic update pack from Microsoft was the culprit. It's still inthere, they didn't remove it. Most probably because it doesn't generate the same error on other machines...
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I guess you never noticed the previous working version is still there on the alternative slice…
Thanks again for your valuable irronic input. Congratulations my friend.
I also do some customizations on my systems by installing some special FreeBSD packages which I like to do not on the live system. This is more important than messing with slices, trust me (I've ran into it on 2 of my boxes).
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I will never quite understand people that will waste the time to complain and bash a product that they got for free.
OP, no one is making you use this product. If you don't like it, leave. Better yet code something better yourself so you have a valid platform to complain from.
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roll eyes
Giving feedback is OK (pos or neg) - even a good thing. Of course it needs to be constructive (which maybe the OP was/wasn't). But insinuating any dissenting opinions or comments shouldn't happen isn't productive either.
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I think everyone would welcome productive comments on how to make pfsense better. But commenting that its not useable because you had an issue trying to upgrade some ANCIENT hardware is just BS all around.. The OP has a whole 4 post… So clearly he has been quite active with the community that all wants to see pfsense improve and thrive.
The OP is a F'ing troll to be honest.. And that we feed him is our own problem to be sure..
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The OP is a F'ing troll to be honest.. And that we feed him is our own problem to be sure..
I agree, this topic should have ended and been locked right after DotDash's reply. Two pages now headed to three. Can I get an admin plz. ;)
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roll eyes
Giving feedback is OK (pos or neg) - even a good thing. Of course it needs to be constructive (which maybe the OP was/wasn't). But insinuating any dissenting opinions or comments shouldn't happen isn't productive either.
Offer some constructive criticism and I have no problem with that. The OP is bitching. If you're going to complain you better at least offer some possible solutions. Complaining without exploring solutions is just bitching.
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roll eyes
Giving feedback is OK (pos or neg) - even a good thing. Of course it needs to be constructive (which maybe the OP was/wasn't). But insinuating any dissenting opinions or comments shouldn't happen isn't productive either.
Offer some constructive criticism and I have no problem with that. The OP is bitching. If you're going to complain you better at least offer some possible solutions. Complaining without exploring solutions is just bitching.
Thx for that, commence Page 3 on this useless Post
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