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      scopa
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      yeah - thats what I have and its not working. What circumstances would not show anything in the logs? No blocking, packet capture does not show anything either.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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        https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Port_Forward_Troubleshooting

        Check all those things.  This really does "just work."

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          So your nat reflection is not working? Its not working from external.  I could see nat reflection not working if you have a source in your rule that would block your actual source for example.

          Is the traffic showing up on your wan?  There is nothing in the logs about the traffic being blocked - sniff does it hit your wan and then go out your lan.  Maybe your lan client firewall is blocking it, etc..

          Step through the doc linked too.. Its got pretty much everything you would need to find the problem.  Once you have gone through the doc - let us know where its failing..  and its always better to just post screen shots of your rules and your nats so we can see if there is something conflicting.

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            scopa
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            I attached screen shots of my config - maybe someone can point out what I am doing wrong.

            I had the 1:1 NAT setup w/ FW rules to port 40809 for SSH

            I then tried adding some port forwarding to test our email server as well as SSH - but it still does not work.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Don't set source ports.

              Common Problems

              1. NAT and firewall rules not correctly added (see How can I forward ports with pfSense?)

              Hint: Do NOT set a source port

              https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/How_can_I_forward_ports_with_pfSense

              https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Port_Forward_Troubleshooting

              There is a list of all the things to check there.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                doktornotor Banned
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                The OP should better decide whether he wants to do 1:1 NAT or port forwards… having a mish-mash of both trying to do the same things does NOT help.

                https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=94940.0

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                  scopa
                  last edited by

                  Since all servers behind firewall have a public static IP I will do 1:1 NAT

                  In that case I will remove the Port Forwarders

                  Now - when I setup the rules for the 1:1 Nat servers - I set up the rules on the WAN INT - is the destination address the WAN IP or Internal IP of intended server?

                  Thanks,

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                    doktornotor Banned
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                    I already linked this on the other thread! https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/1:1_NAT

                    Read it. NOW.

                    Also:
                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Can_I_use_1:1_NAT_on_my_WAN_IP
                    https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Do_NAT_port_forwards_override_1:1_NAT

                    @scopa:

                    Since all servers behind firewall have a public static IP I will do 1:1 NAT

                    Errr… 192.168.5.220 is NOT a public (routable IP). Neither is 192.168.1.50. Both of those are RFC1918... If you had public IPs on LAN, there'd be no point in doing any NAT. In general, by posting totally misleading and confusing information, you are just wasting everyone's time, not to mention that it prevents people from providing relevant advise.

                    :(

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                      scopa
                      last edited by

                      ok.ok… so should be mapped to internal port

                      But reading this:

                      Yes, 1:1 NAT may be used from the WAN IP address to an internal IP address. But be aware that this maps every port and services on the firewall will no longer be reachable from the outside. To reach the firewall from the outside, port forward entries must be added to negate the 1:1 NAT for the specific ports on the firewall to be reached.

                      So dont' use 1:1 NAT for my purpose and use the port forwarding only?

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                        doktornotor Banned
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                        What??? You just told us that "all servers behind firewall have a public static IP".

                        Look, as already hinted in my previous post, I have absolutely no clue about your setup. Post some real information.

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                          scopa
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                          Here are my settings:

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                            doktornotor Banned
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                            • What's "WAN_email"? Is that the same thing like the "External IP" in 1:1 NAT or not?
                            • What's "LAN_email"? It that the same thing like "Internal IP" in the 1:1 NAT or not?
                            • What's TCP 40809? Why's it both in antilockout and port forward?!
                            • Where have all those other "servers with static public IP" vanished?!

                            Looking at the setup and the generic mess, I have some extremely strange feeling I have seen this somewhere. Was about ~10 pages thread full of beep!

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                              scopa
                              last edited by

                              WAN_email is public email ip alias
                              LAN_email same thing

                              40809 is custom ssh port

                              Where have all those other "servers with static public IP" vanished

                              -just trying to get my mail server working right now - once working should be easy to get the others online

                              Thanks,

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                                doktornotor Banned
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                                @scopa:

                                WAN_email is public email ip alias
                                LAN_email same thing

                                That was not my question.

                                @scopa:

                                40809 is custom ssh port

                                And why's it used both on pfSense and forwarded somewhere else ("email" server)?!

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                                  scopa
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                                  • What's "WAN_email"? Is that the same thing like the "External IP" in 1:1 NAT or not?
                                  • yes

                                  What's "LAN_email"? It that the same thing like "Internal IP" in the 1:1 NAT or not?

                                  • yes

                                  I use a custom ssh port for the firewall as well. That was auto generated when I modified the default port

                                  Thanks again for your help

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                                    doktornotor Banned
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                                    @scopa:

                                    • What's "WAN_email"? Is that the same thing like the "External IP" in 1:1 NAT or not?
                                    • yes

                                    What's "LAN_email"? It that the same thing like "Internal IP" in the 1:1 NAT or not?

                                    • yes

                                    Then - as already noted multiple times -  either use 1:1 NAT, or port forwards. NOT both!!!

                                    I use a custom ssh port for the firewall as well. That was auto generated when I modified the default port

                                    You won't be able to reach your pfSense SSH from WAN at all.

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                                      scopa
                                      last edited by

                                      That is how I originally had it setup - but one of the links you sent say

                                      Yes, 1:1 NAT may be used from the WAN IP address to an internal IP address. But be aware that this maps every port and services on the firewall will no longer be reachable from the outside. To reach the firewall from the outside, port forward entries must be added to negate the 1:1 NAT for the specific ports on the firewall to be reached.

                                      This says that you need to use both WTF?

                                      Doesn't matter have tried it multiple ways by now - w/ Port Forwarding and NAT, NAT only, Port Forwarding only - nothing works

                                      If I open up 40809 on wan to firewall why can't I reach my pfsense via SSH?

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                                        doktornotor Banned
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                                        I give up. Get paid support.

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Delete it all and start over again.  You don't need 1:1 NAT.  Add the port forwards - one at a time.  Testing all the way to be sure it's doing what you want.  Stop and ask for help at the point you hit a block, not after you've over-complicated it again.

                                          You are all over the place with this.  Take a step back and add one thing at a time.

                                          This all just works.

                                          And, again:

                                          https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/How_can_I_forward_ports_with_pfSense
                                          https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Port_Forward_Troubleshooting

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            So you posted your public IP that 50.x.x.157 IP  Is that your only IP or do you have more than 1?

                                            I would get your port forwarding with 1 IP working - follow the instructions provided by Derelict.. This really is click click done..  First thing I would do is enable icmp to your wan IP.  We can then validate that we can ping your IP.. You can then validate that traffic is atleast getting to your wan with a sniff, etc.

                                            You do not need or normally want 1:1 nat.. You only have a few ports you need open, this should be click done all of 10 seconds to setup.

                                            Once you have cleared up this mess you have.  Please enable icmp to your wan.  And we can validate we can atleast ping you..

                                            So right now I am pinging that 50.x.x.157 address

                                            root@ns1:~# ping 50.xx.xx.157
                                            PING 50.xx.xx.157 (50.xx.xx.157) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                            64 bytes from 50.xx.xx.157: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=93.2 ms
                                            64 bytes from 50.xx.xx.157: icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=91.2 ms
                                            64 bytes from 50.xx.xx.157: icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=93.1 ms

                                            But can not get to 25 on that ip

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