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    • T Offline
      tomli
      last edited by

      Hi all,

      In the pfsense, I set the default GW is 1.1.1.1 (1 st ISP). All the incoming traffic coming from 2 nd ISP are sent to the 1 st ISP for outgoing. Then the 1 st wan port will have high traffic load. I want to separate the traffic. Can pfsense support it?

      Thanks,
      Tom

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      • KOMK Offline
        KOM
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        You can use firewall rules to direct traffic to any gateway you have.  Have you read any of the Multi-WAN guide?  Gateway groups allow you to do load-balancing or failover automatically.

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          tomli
          last edited by

          Hi,

          Yes, I read it.

          I tried to configure the rule in Lan Port to test it.

          Interface: LAN
          Protocol: Any
          Source: Any
          Desination: Any

          Advanced features
          Gateway: To Wan2

          All the incoming traffic (1 or 2 wan port) are still using wan1 port for outgoing. It seem the rules cannot work properly.

          Thanks,
          Tom

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          • DerelictD Offline
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            Incoming connections are going to use whatever IP address/interface DNS tells them to connect to.

            All the firewall rules on LAN control are which WAN port to use for connections ORIGINATED from LAN hosts.

            Return traffic for connections coming in from ISP1/ISP2 have to go out the same interface they came in on.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              tomli
              last edited by

              Hi All,

              Attached is my network diagram  for all reference.

              Now, the pfense default GW is Router B IP address. Can pfsense return the traffic to use router A? My friend told me this is called "symmetric route" in the router technology.

              Thanks,
              Tom

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                heper
                last edited by

                whats the point of router A & router B ? (might have missed something)

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                  tomli
                  last edited by

                  Sorry, what do you mean the point of route A and B?

                  Router A and B are connected to ISP A and B company. For example:

                  Router A Lan IP is 192.168.1.1
                  Router B Lan IP is 192.168.1.2
                  PFsense IP is 192.168.1.3 and the default GW is 192.168.1.2.

                  I want the incoming traffic  from Router A . PFsense will send the outgoing traffic through the Router A too.

                  Thanks,
                  Tom

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                    heper
                    last edited by

                    well, why don't you connect your two isp's , directly to pfsense? putting 2 routers in front of pfSense(also a router), seems pointless.

                    also router A & router B have the same lan subnet (192.168.1.0/24) …. this is asking for trouble. you can not have multi-wan when you only have 1 WAN-interface on pfsense.
                    if you insist of going your double-nat way, i'd advise you to change your "lan' subnets on 1 of your routers to something different.

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                      tomli
                      last edited by

                      Hi,

                      I have one wan interface. Can I route the traffic for different IP? It is mean I can control the outgoing traffic to use which IP (NOT Default GW) for outgoing.

                      Thanks.

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                      • DerelictD Offline
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        What?

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          tomli
                          last edited by

                          Hi,

                          In the Diagram, Client A use IE to browser our Web page.
                          Client A => Internet => RouterA=>PFSense => Web Server
                          Can PFSense return the data to the ClientA through RouteA?

                          In the Diagram, Client B use IE to browser our Web page.
                          Client B => Internet => RouterB=>PFSense => Web Server
                          Can PFSense return the data to the ClientB through RouteB?

                          Please advise.

                          Thanks.

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                          • jahonixJ Offline
                            jahonix
                            last edited by

                            Are Route-A and Route-B supposed to hit the same web-server?
                            How do you separate traffic TO your 3 web servers from schematic 1?

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                              tomli
                              last edited by

                              Hi,

                              Yes, Route-A and Route-B hit the same web-server.

                              ISP company route the traffic to our web server. (I cannot control it).

                              Thanks.

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                              • jahonixJ Offline
                                jahonix
                                last edited by

                                Is that one web server or multiple as in your first drawing?

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                                  tomli
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi all,

                                  I try to add the below configuration in my /tmp/rule.debug file manually. It can work for me. But I don't know how to add it in GUI Would you mind teaching me?

                                  User-defined rules follow

                                  anchor "userrules/*"

                                  pass  in  quick  on $WAN reply-to { ( re0 192.168.5.22 ),(re0 192.168.5.21) } round-robin inet from any to any tracker 1436785528 keep state  label "USER_RULE"

                                  If we cannot add it in GUI, can I save it permanent?

                                  Thanks.

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                                    last edited by

                                    Try out using "policy based routing" to manage the internal traffic.

                                    • The both routers are often able to work in the so called "bridged modus" only acting as a pure modem
                                      (figure 1)  ;)
                                    • If not, they can be the front line where the Web Server is standing behind inside a so called "dual homed DMZ"
                                      (figure 2)  ::)

                                    To reach form the outside the Web Server it is even necessary to open and forward ports,
                                    whatever then in normal the web server will not be placed inside the LAN, that you have to open
                                    ports directly to the LAN, there for a DMZ will be created today thats the normal and also safe way.

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