Per IP traffic shaping–share bandwith evenly between IP addresses??
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so to clarify, when u enable limiters lan ips are unable to connect to systems located on the WAN subnet through NAT ??? ??? ??? …i have not had this issue but mabe i am interpreting this incorrectly, i have found that limiters do not function (for me) in the 2.2.3 build but it may be a misconfiguration on my part and im still experimenting with it (multi vlan + WPAD-DNS-DHCP + Squid 3 + squidguard + explicit proxy setup).
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When I had limiters on NAT Reflection stopped working. I could no longer access internal servers via their external addresses. Turn off limiters and they would start working again. Limiters also break Squid Transparent proxy. There are several bugs in Redmine about this and I believe they are marked as targeted to be fixed in 2.3.
This was a no go for me since I rely on dyndns SRV records to route my kids internal computers to our external facing Minecraft servers. The solution at the start of this thread works great for sharing bandwidth but it broke too many things for me to be able to continue using it.
Chad
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understood, it is worthwhile that these things are noted. mabe it could be posted up on the limiter doc so no one else is tripped up by this..
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Limiters are currently completely broken as far as I'm concerned. Limiters breaking NAT is a known bug. Don't feel like looking it up.
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https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/4326
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hello guys i dont seem to find any answear to my problem
i have 2 wan interfaces 1 30mbit and 1 50 mbit
if i set the limiters i will set the total bandwith of the 2 lines or i have to create 2 sets of limiters?
if i set limiters it will make my nat records not working?
thank you in advance
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I have attempted to document the process for a simple single lan single wan setup in screenshots. Click apply settings when presented with the option to do so. See if this does what you want.
I setup my Limiters as shown in this post when limiters are enabled my Users (50) telling me they are unable to access internet i am able to Ping to Site Name and IP but webpage is not opening
when i disabled limiter from lan rule everything is working properly ,last night i tested this when there were only around 4-5 users they didnt report any issue
Version 2.2.3-RELEASE (amd64)
built on Tue Jun 23 16:37:42 CDT 2015Package Running - Snort - squid for http -bandwidthd-ntopng -openvpn
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« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2015, 04:32:32 pm »
another user also facing same issue
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I applied foxale08 method for the limiter and it kills internet connection (but I can ping websites), if I disable the limiters internet works fine. I'm also using squid proxy in transparent mode, I haven't tried to uninstall squid but could it be the issue?
I have the same issue.
Disable the transparent proxy and the limiter will works
We are using proxy server for caching files and http website monitoring
Is there any way to fix it without disabling transparent proxy ? because if i disable transparent proxy i will need to manually configure proxy in all computers (can do it from Server but due to some reasons i cant do it )
any alternate solutions please
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Is there any way to fix it without disabling transparent proxy ?
A second transparent proxy upstream of your limiter node?
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any alternate solutions please
No. Get rid of the proxy.
Proxy server we need to Monitor user visiting sites and for Caching huge files
So this will work rite if i configure Proxy server in non transparent mode ?
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This thread should be locked.
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for Caching huge files
With 0.0000000000000000023% hitrate. ::)
So this will work rite if i configure Proxy server in non transparent mode ?
That or move the stupid thing to another box. Squid-induced breakage is totally OT on this thread.
actually caching is very helping for me , i am not concerned about small file caching , mainly .exe download's and it works for me
Also Per user Net usage summary also , both is working for me
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Thanks Sideout for the tips, I tried both ways using the default LAN rule and also the tip you gave me i.e. a new rule above the default LAN rule with the limiters applied. no change in results, however i noticed that if both clients are laptops on torrents (i.e. equal load) then it does some bandwidth balancing.
attached are the screenshots of my configuration, the graphs and the limiter info.
i created similar and applied
Setup is Pfsene with squid in non transparent mode with wpad - i am able to see Unique quoue/pipe for each local IP's in diag but when one user started downloading in bitorrent entire bandwidth was given to that user ,(test was performed with 2 user i normal user downloading in Http file and other downloading in bitrorrent , torrent user was getting speed (90%)
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use 2.1.5 works perfectly with queue
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Tested on 2.2.4 and works.
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Isn't it the case that bandwidth is always evenly shared, even if you do nothing with limiters etc. Thats also the case with wifi as far as I experienced.
1 client 100%
2 clients download each 50%
3 clients each 33%
etc…I mean the router is trying its best to handle every client right?
Im going to run some tests here.
Also is it really necessary to have 2 sub queues if you have 2 vlans? Can't you just specify the same up and down limiter for both?
With outgoing rules you have to specify the limiter for every rule you want it to apply to. I only set it up for httphttps. -
Isn't it the case that bandwidth is always evenly shared, even if you do nothing with limiters etc. Thats also the case with wifi as far as I experienced.
1 client 100%
2 clients download each 50%
3 clients each 33%
etc…Not really. Because of the way fixed sized tail-drop FIFO queues interact with TCP, you tend to get a single or a few dominate flows. If you use a fair queue or head-drop queue like codel, you will get a much better distribution of bandwidth among all flows. More advanced traffic shapers, like Cake, can give even per device bandwidth distribution and latency isolation, while also giving per flow bandwidth distribution and isolation for any given device.
The day PFSense gets Cake, that's what I'm using. It's not even ready for Linux yet, so don't hold your breath.
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If it really helps.. then why isnt it transparently buildin already? There are lots of routers out there handling lots of clients perfectly fine without it.. including pfSense.. but if it is indeed better and fairer.. then why not enable it on all traffic by default? Cake == Codel? Sounds interesting. And yes, that checkbox 'share bandwidth evenly between all clients' is still missing ;) IF it really adds something!
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If it really helps.. then why isnt it transparently buildin already? There are lots of routers out there handling lots of clients perfectly fine without it.. including pfSense.. but if it is indeed better and fairer.. then why not enable it on all traffic by default? Cake == Codel? Sounds interesting. And yes, that checkbox 'share bandwidth evenly between all clients' is still missing ;) IF it really adds something!
Why is it not enabled by default? Partly because the definition of "better" & "fairer" are subjective.
Regarding whether it really works… This thread is popular for a reason. :)
