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      hda
      last edited by

      Show your numbers if you like help. Report your WAN address subnet-value and your LAN subnet value… [(f you must), hide the first /48 and show the last /80 part… ]

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      • jimpJ
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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        Try using ::2 in the first /64 for your WAN IP address and then use the second /64 for your LAN. Usually when ISPs give you just one large block they assume the first /64 inside it is the WAN.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          You know if you don't like the way your isp is doing ipv6, you can just get a free tunnel from HE.. You cant get a /48 from them if you want.. I have both a /64 and /48 I use the /64 on my lan and then I use a few of the /64's out of the /48 for my other segments and openvpn clients, etc.

          Rock solid works deployment.. They even allow you to setup PTR on your ipv6 addresses if you want, etc.  Or even delegate the ipv6 networks to your own nameservers, etc.  Does your isp let you do that ;)

          And you don't have to worry about your isp giving you a different prefix next week.. When you hit a different dhcp server, etc.

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            pra
            last edited by

            Thank you all

            ISP : SFR
            they give me : 2a02:8428:ef:7500::/56
            the box can't be configured in bridge mode : ip is : 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1/56
            i use 2axy:8428:ef:7501::/64 for my LAN (ex : 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100, gateway : 2a02:8428:ef:7501::10)
            ping from 2axy:8428:ef:7501::100 to :
            2a02:8428:ef:7501::10 -> ok
            2a02:8428:ef:7500::2 -> ok
            2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 -> ko
            on tcpdump on em3 (2a02:8428:ef:7500::2) i can see the echo request , but i don't see the echo reply …. :

            tcpdump -lni em3 host 2a02:8428:ef:7501:216:3eff:fe8c:edd0
            tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
            listening on em3, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
            capability mode sandbox enabled
            08:07:10.341717 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 65, length 64
            08:07:11.349705 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 66, length 64
            08:07:12.357754 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 67, length 64
            08:07:13.365748 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 68, length 64
            08:07:14.373745 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 69, length 64
            08:07:15.381684 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 70, length 64
            08:07:16.389735 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 71, length 64
            08:07:17.397731 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 72, length 64
            08:07:18.405693 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 73, length 64
            08:07:19.413624 IP6 2a02:8428:ef:7501::100 > 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1: ICMP6, echo request, seq 74, length 64
            ^C
            10 packets captured
            6077 packets received by filter
            0 packets dropped by kernel

            my config : for pfsense :

            --------------LAN------------
                              |
                              |
                              |
                              |
                          2a02:8428:ef:7501::10/64  IPv6 LAN pfsense
                              |
                              P
                              F
                              S
                              E
                              N
                              S
                              E
                              |
                            2a02:8428:ef:7500::2/56 IPv6 WAN pfsense
                              |
                              |
                              |
                              |
                            BOX
                            2a02:8428:ef:7500::1/56
                              |
                              |
                              |
                              |
            -------------WAN-----------------

            thank you for your help
            pra

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              pra
              last edited by

              i can t change PTR
              i can t do bridge the box
              i can use a DMZ , they impose (i try this) :
              2a02:8428:ef:7501::/64
              gateway :
              2a02:8428:ef:7500::2/56

              for my rules you can see the attachments

              fwRuleLan.png
              fwRuleLan.png_thumb
              FWRuleWan.png
              FWRuleWan.png_thumb

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                hda
                last edited by

                You have two router in series, cascading networks. ?

                If you want public IPv6 on your pfSense-LAN, then your pfSense-WAN have to request your ISP-box with DHCP6-Client for a prefix&subnet first ?, provided your ISP-box can function as a DHCP6-Server…

                IPv6, no pfSense issue forya. Your ISP-box has the /56. Your pfSense is a slave with other LAN subnet-value and local prefix between /57 and /63.

                Your pfSense-WAN on mask /56 doesn't look correct. (but /64 or /128).

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                • jimpJ
                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Sounds like your settings are OK. If your LAN IP address can ping the upstream gateway then your local setup is fine, and probably even the routing at your next hop is OK, but it sounds like maybe the routing/rules upstream from you is broken.

                  A traceroute6 to your WAN and LAN IP addresses both stop at your gateway. I'd normally expect it to work if all that is fine, unless the ISP is filtering the traffic.

                  If you can ping your gateway and a traceroute from the outside to your LAN subnet is OK, then the routing is probably OK at the ISP end of things.

                  Sure you used /64 for the prefix on all your interfaces?

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                    pra
                    last edited by

                    thank you for your help.

                    traceroute to google.fr :
                    =>traceroute6 google.fr
                    traceroute to google.fr (2a00:1450:400a:805::1017), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
                    1  2a02-8428-00ef-7501-0000-0000-0000-0010.rev.sfr.net (2a02:8428:ef:7501::10)  0.552 ms  0.538 ms  0.524 ms
                    2  * * *
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                    =>traceroute6 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1
                    traceroute to 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 (2a02:8428:ef:7500::1), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
                    1  2a02-8428-00ef-7501-0000-0000-0000-0010.rev.sfr.net (2a02:8428:ef:7501::10)  0.532 ms  0.518 ms  1.364 ms
                    2  * * *
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                    in attachment you find my routing

                    routing.png
                    routing.png_thumb
                    gateways.png
                    gateways.png_thumb

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                      pra
                      last edited by

                      No idea?
                      Thank you

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                        hda
                        last edited by

                        @pra:

                        No idea?
                        Thank you

                        Sure, comment on reply #12 ?

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                          pra
                          last edited by

                          @hda -> not sure to anderstand :

                          You have two router in series, cascading networks. ?

                          If you want public IPv6 on your pfSense-LAN, then your pfSense-WAN have to request your ISP-box with DHCP6-Client for a prefix&subnet first ?, provided your ISP-box can function as a DHCP6-Server…

                          IPv6, no pfSense issue forya. Your ISP-box has the /56. Your pfSense is a slave with other LAN subnet-value and local prefix between /57 and /63.

                          Your pfSense-WAN on mask /56 doesn't look correct. (but /64 or /128).

                          do you suggest to have a ip by the dhcp from box for wan IPv6 pfsense?
                          i can try

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                            pra
                            last edited by

                            @hda ->dhcp give me a /128 :
                            inet6 2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:d96b prefixlen 128

                            i try to use : 2a02:8428:ef:7500::10 / 64 for pfsense WAN
                            2a02:8428:ef:7501::10 /64 for pfsense LAN
                            default getway : 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1/56
                            2a02:8428:ef:7501::10 can't ping box (2a02:8428:ef:7500::1)

                            have you an idea?

                            thank you

                            pra

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                              hda
                              last edited by

                              @pra:

                              …
                              do you suggest to have a ip by the dhcp from box for wan IPv6 pfsense?
                              ...

                              Yes DHCP6, and ask for a prefix /62 to pfSense.
                              Then try to use Track Interface on your pfSense-LAN.
                              Put a host-PC on the LAN and see if that PC get response from http://ipv6-test.com/

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                                pra
                                last edited by

                                @hda:

                                @pra:

                                …
                                do you suggest to have a ip by the dhcp from box for wan IPv6 pfsense?
                                ...

                                Yes DHCP6, and ask for a /62 to pfSense.
                                Then try to use Track Interface on your pfSense-LAN.
                                Put a host-PC on the LAN and see if that PC get response from http://ipv6-test.com/

                                dhcp give me a /128, do you suggest to use a IPv6 /128 for pfsense WAN and a /62 for IPv6 pfsense LAN?

                                i try :
                                2a02:8428:ef:7500::10 / 64 for pfsense WAN
                                2a02:8428:ef:7501::10 /64 for pfsense LAN
                                default getway : 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1/56
                                2a02:8428:ef:7501::10 can't ping box (2a02:8428:ef:7500::1)

                                what do you suggest ? because  /128 in pfsense WAN and /62 for pfsense LAN seems strange

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                                  hda
                                  last edited by

                                  Consider: your ISP-Box supplies on request, you probably can not grab a number you like…

                                  SO, don't do all static, but do DHCP6 from pfSense-WAN to your ISP-Box. Then read reply #19 again...

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                                    pra
                                    last edited by

                                    @hda
                                    i try :
                                    => pfsense WAN IPv6 DHCP6 -> give me inet6 2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:d96b prefixlen 128
                                    but how to configure pfsense LAN because the pfsense WAN has a /128 prefixe

                                    thank you

                                    pra

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                                      hda
                                      last edited by

                                      You may read & understand to request a prefix /62 for pfSense from ISP-box (/56) for the pfSense LAN's. The WAN address mask (/64 or /128) no problem for that, just an intermediair. The LAN's are each with a unique subnet and mask /64.

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                                        pra
                                        last edited by

                                        @hda :
                                        sorry but i can't configure the box ….
                                        DHCP is imposed : 
                                        2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:0000 to 2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:ffff
                                        i tray this :
                                        i fixe the ip on the DHCP6 on the box :
                                        IPv6 pfsense WAN : 2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:1/128
                                        IPv6 pfsense LAN :  2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:8001/113

                                        i test:
                                        pfsense WAN can't ping  the box (2a02:8428:ef:7500::1)
                                        PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:1 --> 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1
                                        ping6: wrote 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 16 chars, ret=-1
                                        ping6: wrote 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 16 chars, ret=-1
                                        ping6: wrote 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 16 chars, ret=-1

                                        --- 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 ping6 statistics ---
                                        3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

                                        pfsense LAN can't ping the box (2a02:8428:ef:7500::1):
                                        PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2a02:8428:ef:7500:c9ca:8e5d:732b:8001 --> 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1
                                        ping6: wrote 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 16 chars, ret=-1
                                        ping6: wrote 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 16 chars, ret=-1
                                        ping6: wrote 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 16 chars, ret=-1

                                        --- 2a02:8428:ef:7500::1 ping6 statistics ---
                                        3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
                                        thank you for your help
                                        pra

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                                          David_W
                                          last edited by

                                          Why are you now trying to divide up a /64? You'll have a horrible time trying to use IPv6 with an allocation narrower than /64 on a LAN unless everything on that network supports address allocation via DHCPv6. Some devices only support SLAAC (such as Android devices, also Windows XP if you still use it and haven't installed a DHCPv6 client). SLAAC requires you to advertise a /64 (and exactly a /64) for things to work correctly.

                                          Are you running router advertisement on your LANs (Services -> DHCPv6 Server/RA, Router Advertisements tab)?

                                          I'd start by working out what your ISP supplied box offers. If it will allow you to delegate prefixes via DHCP-PD, your task becomes a lot easier. You've said you can't bridge this device, but does the ISP allow you to replace it with a DSL bridge and use PPPoE or similar?

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                                            davidbrodbeck
                                            last edited by

                                            I have a similar issue where NDP proxy would be really useful.

                                            My colo provider gives me a /64 for my rack. I use NPt to do 1:1 NAT so I can have my pfsense firewall while still allowing machines behind it to have IPv6 connectivity.  This works, but I have to manually configure a virtual IP for each machine. I'd really like to avoid that by just proxy NDPing the whole range.

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