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Jetway NF9HG-2930 + Silverstone PT13 Slim ITX

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    bytecode
    last edited by Jun 20, 2015, 12:25 PM Jun 20, 2015, 12:16 PM

    It's nice to see some pics of this combination, bummer about that slot not fitting … I was curious myself.

    So... you have got me thinking now, with that pci-e 1x - would it be possible to put in a riser card / 90 degree adapter in a bigger case and then stack a quad port intel nic card on top to end up with 8 NIC's ?

    Wondering if this would all fit and if so, can this mainboard then run the mini pci-e slot and the pci-e 1x slots both at the same time (im thinking mini-pcie wireless card with the extra 4 port pci-e NIC, giving us 8 NIC's in total). That would be impressive, for very little $$$.

    If it's possible, I guess the full size back plate would need to be customized with a slot for a half-height pci-e card, but that shouldn't be too hard.

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      wiretap
      last edited by Jun 20, 2015, 12:39 PM

      It looks like you could do it with a larger case. Ideally, a 1U rackmount or another ITX case that has a PCI slot space available would enable that to work. I don't see anything in the motherboard manual about the slots that indicates it would not work. The only restriction I see is mSATA is shared with the 2nd SATA2 port. But, for an additional 4 LAN ports with an expansion card, it would only run at 1x, since quad port gigE cards are usually PCI-e 4x.

      My pfSense Slim-ITX build: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=95286.0

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        bytecode
        last edited by Jun 21, 2015, 1:36 AM

        @wiretap:

        But, for an additional 4 LAN ports with an expansion card, it would only run at 1x, since quad port gigE cards are usually PCI-e 4x.

        Darn, yeah im noticing a lot of itx boards only have the pci-e x1 slot and not the x4. Except the supermicro, which is superpricey and not slim.

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          uht
          last edited by Jun 30, 2015, 8:14 PM

          Hey,

          are there any new practical experiences with your build-up, installed packages, cpu temperature under load and so on?
          Would be great to hear about, since this seems to be a really nice build.

          Regards

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            wiretap
            last edited by Jun 30, 2015, 10:27 PM

            I'm just running OpenVPN and bandwidthD at the moment. On my home network I really won't see much load. It mainly stays right around 48-52C core temp on all 4 cores, <5% CPU load. I suppose adding a slim fan would bring the temps down at least 15C degrees, depending on how much air it was pushing. It is just a little warm to the touch, but overall not that bad. The SSD stays at ~27C, and the motherboard temp sensor shows 46C. The temps aren't ideal, but I guess that's what fanless slim-ITX gets you on a quad core system. Maybe a different heatsink would perform better if I could find some other options that would fit inside the case.

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            My pfSense Slim-ITX build: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=95286.0

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              Guest
              last edited by Jul 5, 2015, 10:04 AM

              Jetway-NF9HG-2930 & case
              Here is one Jetway-NF9HG-2930board & case thats fitting exact and plays fine together, for $299.
              If anyone is interested in, to buy such a board also.

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                satcomjimmy
                last edited by Jul 5, 2015, 4:32 PM

                BlueKobold: That is the same case I am using with an older Jetway mobo. Fanless. Silent. I love it. My only concern right now is the heat buildup in my network/coat closet. Even though it is hot enough to have melted the adhesives on my labels and even some of the rubber feet on my gear, my pfsense box has not gone overtemp.

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                  RonRN18
                  last edited by Aug 5, 2015, 5:20 PM

                  I am sitting around waiting for my Jetway NF9HG-2930 motherboard to arrive. I am currently looking at my M350 case that arrived yesterday, the first 4GB or RAM (I decided to double it for some reason and the second stick arrives tomorrow) and my teeny, tiny 30GB mSATA drive. I'm excited to actually put this into something… it is smaller than the SO-DIMM memory module! I got the Kingston SMS200S3/30G module. I did not purchase any case fans for this, so my thought is it should be silent, which is great. I just hope I don't have any heat issues. Since the motherboard isn't here yet, I don't know if it will be possible but I'm thinking that I might be able to add a 120mm fan from the "ceiling" of the case if heat is an issue. I don't see any reason to put the piece that a hard drive and/or top 40mm fans would be mounted to and I don't think things will stand too tall on the motherboard, which is why I think the 120mm fan may work. Any thoughts? This is a fall-back thought/plan… only if it get too hot without fans.

                  This will be my first time playing with pfSense... I have been using Smoothwall on all my router/firewalls and ones I've set up for family members since 2003, so this is a major change for me.

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                    Cloon
                    last edited by Aug 20, 2015, 7:06 PM

                    What kind of power consumption are you guys seeing with this board running pfSense? If someone has done some measurements with a kill-a-watt then please share.  :)

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                      wiretap
                      last edited by Aug 25, 2015, 1:56 AM

                      Given that it's a 7.5W TDP processor, I didn't even bother to measure. Electricity usage will be somewhere around $10/yr. I've seen reviews using this same board/chipset, and they show between 7-13 watts depending on load and what type drive you use. (mSATA SSD will obviously have the lowest power consumption)

                      My pfSense Slim-ITX build: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=95286.0

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                        Bandalo
                        last edited by Oct 2, 2015, 1:14 PM

                        Thanks for the pictures and information!  I'm going a nearly identical build and I was a bit worried about the fit.  Looks like a simple tweak to make that PCI-E slot fit.

                        I did have two questions if you have time:

                        1.  Is there room to fit a slim 40x40mm or 60x60mm fan on top of the heatsink?

                        2.  What's the max power draw of the motherboard?  I haven't been able to find any numbers anywhere.  I have a 12v 3a ac-dc adapter I wanted to use and I'm not quite sure if it will cut it for full load.

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                          wiretap
                          last edited by Oct 4, 2015, 5:30 AM

                          1. A slim fan would probably fit. (15mm thick)
                          2. The power consumption test report is listed on Jetway's website for the NF9HG motherboard, available for download.

                          My pfSense Slim-ITX build: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=95286.0

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                            Guest
                            last edited by Oct 4, 2015, 8:38 AM

                            I see the SuperMicro case has dropped in cost and may have needed clearance for odd slot. Not quite as cramped but still petite.

                            Supermicro SuperChassis CSE-101I
                            http://www.ebay.com/itm/191675936807

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                              Bandalo
                              last edited by Oct 4, 2015, 10:20 AM

                              @wiretap:

                              1. A slim fan would probably fit. (15mm thick)
                              2. The power consumption test report is listed on Jetway's website for the NF9HG motherboard, available for download.

                              Excellent.  I saw the BIOS has good fan-control options, so I think a small fan would be nice to keep the temps and noise low.

                              I found that power report shortly after I posted this.  Seems odd that they wouldn't have any specifics in any of their other documentation.  I tested my own board and only saw about 24W total with a full load on the CPU.

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                                Bandalo
                                last edited by Oct 13, 2015, 8:04 PM

                                So my setup with this configuration was running around 50-52C with no fan.  Not terrible, but not too great.  I found a nice PWM controlled Silverstone 120mm slim fan for about $10 online.  Now it sits around 32C and is nearly silent.

                                It's a tight fit, but there's clearance.  I think I might simply zip tie the corners down to the lid to keep it from shifting around, but it seems pretty stable.

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                                  wiretap
                                  last edited by Oct 14, 2015, 8:50 AM

                                  Nice  8)

                                  My pfSense Slim-ITX build: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=95286.0

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                                    duncane
                                    last edited by Nov 4, 2015, 11:41 PM

                                    Hi,

                                    I'm interrested in this device.

                                    Can you tell me what kind of performance should be expected from it?

                                    Packet/s capacity (if you have tested it), or at least WAN2LAN & LAN2WAN throughtput ?

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                                      Guest
                                      last edited by Nov 5, 2015, 1:18 AM

                                      Can you tell me what kind of performance should be expected from it?

                                      Capable of 1 GBit/s WAN routing with ease.

                                      Packet/s capacity (if you have tested it), or at least WAN2LAN & LAN2WAN throughput ?

                                      Snort or Suricata, Squid & SquidGuard, ClamAV & VPN would be not problem, but please don´t forget,
                                      all the things you install, like packets, and all services that would be activated, are narrowing down the
                                      entire speed and also throughput.

                                      Together with a SSD and a WiFI card or only with a mSATA it would be a really rocking box together with pfSense.
                                      Available in many different options like shown here in the thread or also only based on the same CPU but more
                                      professional and more available  in many more countries.
                                      Jetway NF9HG-2930 Thin mini-ITX Board only
                                      Ariic New Metal Ant All Aluminum Slim HTPC Mini ITX Media Center Case cool case

                                      Jetway NF9HG-2930 with 4 x Intel GB LAN Ports
                                      Jetway Intel N2930 Network PC with 5 x Intel GB LAN Ports

                                      Axiomtek NA342 Desktop
                                      Axiomtek NA342R 1U Rackmount with extra module bay in the middle of the front for;

                                      • VPN module (Intel QuickAssist based)
                                      • 8 x RJ45 GB LAN module
                                      • 8 x SFP GB LAN module
                                      • 4 x PoE RJ45 GB LAN module
                                      • 4 x SFP+ module
                                      • 4 x 4 GB LAN Ports & 2 SFP Ports module
                                        All modules and Ports are Intel based.
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                                        abc123
                                        last edited by Jun 10, 2016, 3:25 PM

                                        For the Jetway NF9HG-2930
                                        which port are you using as WAN
                                        there are two ports tied together if you make that your LAN do you lose throughput?

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                                          Guest
                                          last edited by Jun 11, 2016, 10:04 AM

                                          which port are you using as WAN

                                          One of the both that are not tied together.

                                          there are two ports tied together if you make that your LAN do you lose throughput?

                                          No I don´t lose LAN speed then, but this could also be owed to the circumstance that I am using a
                                          Layer3 switch that is delivering nearly wire speed in the entire LAN (VLAN) environment.

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