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    [Closed] System and network slow, DHCP problem??

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      you do know machines tend to do stuff in the background even if your not actively having a browser session open..  I would track down some of the public IPs to who owns them, and look on your machines specifically for what processes have those connections open if your worried look on 0.1 and 1.12 for that they might be doing..

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        You are still getting DHCP requests from the same MAC address on re1 and re2 nearly simultaneously.  As I said before, diagram your network.  You have something seriously hosed.  Probably at layer 2 (switching and wifi APs.)

        Oct  8 12:12:07 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.150 (192.168.2.1) from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:07 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.150 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:17 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.150 (192.168.2.1) from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:17 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.150 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:21 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.150 from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:21 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.150 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:23 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.150 from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:23 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.150 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:23 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:23 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.2.150 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2
        Oct  8 12:12:25 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 via re1
        Oct  8 12:12:25 Gateway dhcpd: uid lease 192.168.1.159 for client 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 is duplicate on 192.168.1.0/24
        Oct  8 12:12:29 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.147 from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 via re1
        Oct  8 12:12:29 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.147 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re1
        Oct  8 12:12:29 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.159 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re1
        Oct  8 12:12:36 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.147 from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 (android-737119de387638b0) via re2: wrong network.
        Oct  8 12:12:36 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPNAK on 192.168.1.147 to 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 via re2

        Oct  8 12:12:38 Gateway dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 78:4b:87:dd:aa:24 via re2

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        • C
          cmb
          last edited by

          @Derelict:

          You have something seriously hosed.  Probably at layer 2 (switching and wifi APs.)

          Yes, this.

          Restarting DHCP did absolutely nothing to any kind of slowness. DHCP either works, or it doesn't. Systems are either online and have an IP, or they don't. There is no in between, DHCP can't make things slow, they either work or they don't.

          The logs from DHCP are quite telling though, you have something seriously wrong on your network from the looks of it.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            My guess is re1 and re2 are connected to the same unmanaged switch, but that's just a guess.  A diagram would tell the tale.

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            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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            • C
              cmb
              last edited by

              @Derelict:

              My guess is re1 and re2 are connected to the same unmanaged switch, but that's just a guess.

              They're somehow interconnected where they shouldn't be, for sure. Hard to say how or where without knowing more.

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              • MellowlynxM
                Mellowlynx
                last edited by

                Oke, I will check all the cabling, and change the private wifi pass.
                But still I think it's strange that something works for 16 days and then decides to stop working.

                @Derelict:

                My guess is re1 and re2 are connected to the same unmanaged switch, but that's just a guess.  A diagram would tell the tale.

                This is not possible, re2 is directly connected to the guest wifi
                re1 is connected to a switch and then goes upstairs to the wifi there.

                No repeaters, extenders or anything.

                [Added]
                Decided to try something differed and switch the private wifi to re2
                To see what happens and that the owners have no problems switching from one to the other.

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  One nice thing about IP networking is there is no guesswork necessary.  It is what it is.

                  I can never understand why people just "try things" to see if it works. Find the fault and fix it.

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                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                  • MellowlynxM
                    Mellowlynx
                    last edited by

                    @Derelict:

                    I can never understand why people just "try things" to see if it works. Find the fault and fix it.

                    I'm not just trying, I have the same type of network at home and that runs fine.
                    and here we do need a guest wifi, we do not wand the payment terminal and POS system on the same network as the guests.
                    But yes, I'm not a pro… I do this for "fun" but this is getting annoying.

                    The problems started after a power outish.
                    At the power restore the old cases power supply and mainboard broke.

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Do you have the same SSIDs on the two wifi APs?

                      (I also don't understand why someone would hire someone who does this for "fun" when the problem is as important as PoS segmentation from guest networks, but that's probably just me.)

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                      • MellowlynxM
                        Mellowlynx
                        last edited by

                        @Derelict:

                        Do you have the same SSIDs on the two wifi APs?

                        Nope both have differed names and the private one has a WPA2 pass
                        Guest is open.
                        But the owners do switch between booth.

                        @Derelict:

                        (I also don't understand why someone would hire someone who does this for "fun" when the problem is as important as PoS segmentation from guest networks, but that's probably just me.)

                        They don't hire me, that ask of i know a solution for there request.
                        as there friend I showed them my setup and ask me to get it installed.

                        Everything was running fine for almost two years. until the blackout.

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                        • MellowlynxM
                          Mellowlynx
                          last edited by

                          Back on topic, re2 is now both wifi networks and for now everything seems to be working.

                          let's hope it will stay this way.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            Umm.  So your private and guest networks are now on the same subnet?  Thought you wanted them isolated.

                            Since you refuse to provide requested details and just want to plug things into different ports instead of actually design it in a correct, secure manner, I guess a "good luck" is in order.

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            • MellowlynxM
                              Mellowlynx
                              last edited by

                              @Derelict:

                              Umm.  So your private and guest networks are now on the same subnet?  Thought you wanted them isolated.

                              Only the wifi, lan is still a separate on and on there is the POS and Payment gateway.
                              And it should be temporarily

                              @Derelict:

                              Since you refuse to provide requested details and just want to plug things into different ports instead of actually design it in a correct, secure manner, I guess a "good luck" is in order.

                              I may have missed something, but I do not see any data requests in this topic.
                              Else I would post them no problem, I want to fix this.

                              I think I'm misunderstood, I do not want to " just plug things into different ports" I do what to fix this, but the Lan is working fine so I can't just shutdown the network for the day. They are open all day and I'm trying to work without giving them problems.

                              Also I did check the lan today everything is fine, from the music pc to the pos everything is connected the right way.
                              So no, I have no idea why a phone would request a ip on both networks ate the same time.

                              Again, If I can provide you some information that can make the situwation or problem more clear,
                              let me know and I will post it.

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Yeah.  Make a diagram.

                                If you have both wifi networks on the same subnet, one open and one with WPA, they might as well both be open.  They're the same network.

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                • MellowlynxM
                                  Mellowlynx
                                  last edited by

                                  Guess I missed that one, but here you go.

                                  This how is was this morning!

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                                  • DerelictD
                                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    Back on topic, re2 is now both wifi networks and for now everything seems to be working.

                                    So you moved your private wifi to re2? Now it's the same network as your guest wifi.  Might as well not have a WPA passphrase on it.

                                    And how did you do that without adding a switch to re2?

                                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    • MellowlynxM
                                      Mellowlynx
                                      last edited by

                                      @Derelict:

                                      Back on topic, re2 is now both wifi networks and for now everything seems to be working.

                                      So you moved your private wifi to re2? Now it's the same network as your guest wifi.  Might as well not have a WPA passphrase on it.

                                      And how did you do that without adding a switch to re2?

                                      Yes I did, but once again it's temporarily.

                                      I did add one, the image is the situation before moving the wifi.
                                      aka the situation the problems started.

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                                      • MellowlynxM
                                        Mellowlynx
                                        last edited by

                                        BTW, I still see this

                                        
                                        Oct 9 22:12:09	dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.18 from 20:16:d8:a6:15:8a (Nicole) via re2
                                        Oct 9 22:12:09	dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.18 to 20:16:d8:a6:15:8a (Nicole) via re2
                                        Oct 9 22:12:09	dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.2.18 from 20:16:d8:a6:15:8a (Nicole) via re2
                                        Oct 9 22:12:09	dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.2.18 to 20:16:d8:a6:15:8a (Nicole) via re2
                                        
                                        

                                        Should be just one request and one pack right?

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Don't know why the client is requesting twice.  Either the client is requesting it twice or your network is sending it to the DHCP interface twice (like there's a layer 2 loop or something.)

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                          • MellowlynxM
                                            Mellowlynx
                                            last edited by

                                            @Derelict:

                                            your network is sending it to the DHCP interface twice (like there's a layer 2 loop or something.)

                                            The switches are both unmanaged, so is there a way this could be done with settings in pfsense??

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