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    • BordiB
      Bordi
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      What Soekris does is to produce professional embedded router & firewall hardware for network professionals. Now we all know, embedded hardware is much more expensive then every other. What really hearts is the issue with the half-baked products. They produce for network professionals, but they don't produce her boards for 19" rackmount. Blinking lights in front, an ports in back? Power next to reset and USB? That's stuff for Homer-entertainment. Not even f***ing crap cheep professional office switches look like this. This issues should get fixed, an in my eyes, net6801look like it. So it realy let me hope.

      by the way, the openvox ipc100 is quite similar to the Soekris net6501-70. If you like to compare prices, you should compare this two, an not eggs with chicken.  ;D

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      • ?
        Guest
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        OK, I see you, and raise you.

        http://store.netgate.com/Production-Boards-C209.aspx

        Not shown, an 8 core C2758 board with 8GB RAM and 64GB flash, on-board, an a 1U case for same (front-facing ports, etc.)

        designed by the same guys who make pfSense.

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          jasonlitka
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          @gonzopancho:

          OK, I see you, and raise you.

          http://store.netgate.com/Production-Boards-C209.aspx

          Not shown, an 8 core C2758 board with 8GB RAM and 64GB flash, on-board, an a 1U case for same (front-facing ports, etc.)

          designed by the same guys who make pfSense.

          Could you possibly add NIC chipsets to those pages?  Also, I think you've got the wrong picture for the 2440.

          Any chance of whipping up a C2758 board with 10Gbe ports?  I saw the RCC development kit but I was thinking more along the lines of something that wasn't 3-4" high (with 10Gbe on board I don't need the expansion slot).

          I can break anything.

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          • ?
            Guest
            last edited by

            @Jason:

            @gonzopancho:

            OK, I see you, and raise you.

            http://store.netgate.com/Production-Boards-C209.aspx

            Not shown, an 8 core C2758 board with 8GB RAM and 64GB flash, on-board, an a 1U case for same (front-facing ports, etc.)

            designed by the same guys who make pfSense.

            Could you possibly add NIC chipsets to those pages?  Also, I think you've got the wrong picture for the 2440.

            Any chance of whipping up a C2758 board with 10Gbe ports?  I saw the RCC development kit but I was thinking more along the lines of something that wasn't 3-4" high (with 10Gbe on board I don't need the expansion slot).

            Yes, the pic doesn't match.

            NICs are i354 for the "first" four ports, and i211 for #5 and #6.

            As you state, RCC has dual-port 10G, but I'm only thinking of it for rack mount 1U, and not until mid-year next.

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              jasonlitka
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              @gonzopancho:

              @Jason:

              @gonzopancho:

              OK, I see you, and raise you.

              http://store.netgate.com/Production-Boards-C209.aspx

              Not shown, an 8 core C2758 board with 8GB RAM and 64GB flash, on-board, an a 1U case for same (front-facing ports, etc.)

              designed by the same guys who make pfSense.

              Could you possibly add NIC chipsets to those pages?  Also, I think you've got the wrong picture for the 2440.

              Any chance of whipping up a C2758 board with 10Gbe ports?  I saw the RCC development kit but I was thinking more along the lines of something that wasn't 3-4" high (with 10Gbe on board I don't need the expansion slot).

              Yes, the pic doesn't match.

              NICs are i354 for the "first" four ports, and i211 for #5 and #6.

              As you state, RCC has dual-port 10G, but I'm only thinking of it for rack mount 1U, and not until mid-year next.

              I would be all over it if you could cram two of those in a short-depth 1U chassis and make it so that one was easily removable (front loading tray, perhaps) without needing to power off the other system and remove the entire thing from the rack.

              I can break anything.

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              • ?
                Guest
                last edited by

                @Jason:

                @gonzopancho:

                OK, I see you, and raise you.

                http://store.netgate.com/Production-Boards-C209.aspx

                Not shown, an 8 core C2758 board with 8GB RAM and 64GB flash, on-board, an a 1U case for same (front-facing ports, etc.)

                designed by the same guys who make pfSense.

                Could you possibly add NIC chipsets to those pages?  Also, I think you've got the wrong picture for the 2440.

                Any chance of whipping up a C2758 board with 10Gbe ports?  I saw the RCC development kit but I was thinking more along the lines of something that wasn't 3-4" high (with 10Gbe on board I don't need the expansion slot).

                We designed the fan-sink for the 8 core RCC-VE to also work with the RCC board.  Just so it could fit in an enclosure that isn't 4" high.  :-)

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                • J
                  jwt Netgate
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                  Soekris has canceled the net6801.

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                  • ?
                    Guest
                    last edited by

                    @jwt:

                    Soekris has canceled the net6801.

                    Really sad to hear about! A C2x58 appliance with the ability to upgrade to 8/12 GB LAN Ports was also
                    really nice to see in the world wide assortment to run pfSense on.

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                      cmb
                      last edited by

                      @BlueKobold:

                      @jwt:

                      Soekris has canceled the net6801.

                      Really sad to hear about! A C2x58 appliance with the ability to upgrade to 8/12 GB LAN Ports was also
                      really nice to see in the world wide assortment to run pfSense on.

                      We already have an option with up to 8 NICs, with more coming later.

                      I was surprised to hear it was cancelled, though it's been delayed quite some time (page on their site listed Winter 2014 as release date, later Q4 2015). My favorite post from their mailing list's thread.

                      Seems this is the beginning of the end for Soekris. Their existing hardware lines haven't been price competitive in quite a while. The 6501 is quirky, just search a bit on here with the issues people have had getting things running. Mine collects dust most of the time, and every time I try to get something running on it I'm left wondering why I bothered. Prior to the 65xx line, I always had great experiences with their hardware. Their 45xx models were the first embedded x86 machines I really dug into, starting over 13 years ago now. I believe I have one of every model they've made to date, though haven't bought any or used them in production in many years. I'll remember them fondly though.

                      I'm not sure why anyone would buy any of the Soekris hardware at this point, unless you really need a PCI-e slot in a low power system. The net55xx is obsolete, and there are a lot of significantly cheaper, better options than the net65xx. The RCC-VE 2440 is much faster, has AES-NI and QuickAssist, with at least twice as much RAM, onboard eMMC storage where none of the net* options include any storage, and it's significantly cheaper than a 6501. You can almost buy two 2440s with case and power supply for the price of one 6501-70+case+power supply+mSATA, and the 2440 is a far more capable piece of hardware.

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                      • BordiB
                        Bordi
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                        Sadly, Development of the #net6801 has been shelved indefinitely due to high production and component costs.  soekris.com

                        maybe you now like to switch to http://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/ATOM/ or http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm

                        I think at this time, no one likes to buy a motherboard with an n old fashened Intel Atom E600 Series processor.

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                          Guest
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                          maybe you now like to switch to http://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/ATOM/ or http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm

                          Netgate, pfSense store, Lanner or LianTec are also selling good stuff, but with Soekris there was one more
                          seller on the market that is serving this especially market niche we are talking about here and this is
                          then for us customers really sad as I see it right.

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                            jwt Netgate
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                            I'm not sad.

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