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    A hardy "Welcome!" to OPNsense!

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    • jdillardJ
      jdillard
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      @shaqan:

      Yeah, For example CALEA requires them to have built-in backdoors in phone's software for federal services. Since 2004 CALEA also covers VOIP and broadband internet providers. We also know now that there are separate hidden laws in U.S concerning surveillance and private companies, and companies involved are forbidden to talk about it. Google has made some fuss around such laws. Snowden made lament about it. Bunch of companies have been discovered to have built-in backdoors in their network appliances (Barracuda Networks, D-Link, Cisco,Linksys,Netgear if you want some examples). Lavabit was forced out of business because they wanted to do nothing with it. There is also saying about missing 9 rats for every caught one. It does not make one very trusting about security software produced in the U.S any more. Same applies btw for Chinese and Russian software, those two I trust even less, since I was born in the Soviet Union and have direct personal experience with the mentality of (post)socialist states. I don't have fuck to hide or be afraid from the U.S, I don't walk around wearing tin foil hat, Im just on opinion that such possible built-in backdoors become liabilities in case of discovery by some third party.

      I hate to be the one to inform you that your fears have no boundaries. Regardless, it is just about as relevant to the topic of this thread (not saying it isn't generally important, but I don't have the time to explain it's irrelevance) as discussing the effects of climate change on immigration and the geopolitical stability of each region, so please stay on topic.

      @shaqan:

      PS! Personal attacks/insults like "you're another piece of the FUD machine." are not IMHO appropriate for 1)site admin and 2)adult person.

      This is not a welcome place for unfocused rage, but properly focused rage can find a place. My suggestion is to stay focused and productive as to not endanger your status among the community (it is best practice to not slow down your allies) and the openness of this thread (the likelihood of anything enlightening being mentioned is becoming smaller and smaller).

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        cmb
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        @shaqan:

        Yeah, For example CALEA requires them to have built-in backdoors in phone's software for federal services. Since 2004 CALEA also covers VOIP and broadband internet providers.

        Again, Europe and the Netherlands in particular have stronger lawful intercept laws than CALEA. And it has no relevance to what we do.

        @shaqan:

        Bunch of companies have been discovered to have built-in backdoors in their network appliances (Barracuda Networks, D-Link, Cisco,Linksys,Netgear if you want some examples).

        Yeah and every one of those can be attributed to poor development practices or general security ignorance of the vendors. Most all of that in consumer-grade gear which is where quality control in general of the software is apparently nearly non-existent.

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          kapara
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          Interesting.  I went to m0n0wall.ch and was redirected to opnsense.org.  Anyone have any idea why?

          Skype ID:  Marinhd

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            Cino
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            it redirects you to https://opnsense.org/m0n0wall/

            I knew m0n0wall was on its way out..  Would have thought they would redirected the domain to pfsense.org.  With the changes made to the pfSense organization, who knows what happen

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              cmb
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              Manuel gave (or sold maybe) them the domains and they were supposed to maintain them indefinitely. Had he checked with us, we would have taken them over and been better stewards of maintaining the history (they've irked a variety of people in the m0n0wall world by screwing up things). We offered after his public announcement, but he wasn't going to change things at that point.

              That's all pretty well covered in my farewell to the m0n0wall list.

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                kejianshi
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                Seriously need to change the name of the thread from:
                A hardy "Welcome!" to OPNsense!

                haha….    Is cursing allowed?

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                • KOMK
                  KOM
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                  Or close it altogether.

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                    2chemlud Banned
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                    Why? This is highly interesting to read, how people apparently really believe the nonsense they write here. And fun!

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                    • KOMK
                      KOM
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                      Because there is nothing positive to be gained here.  This isn't politics.  ESF has nothing to gain by having a thread where we all slam OpenSense, and it's unprofessional.  If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.  Ignore them.  Talking about them only gives them oxygen and opens you up to all kinds of nonsense that is a distraction from the core goal.

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                        2chemlud Banned
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                        …but I mean the position of pfsense... ;-)

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