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    Kernel crash - nmbufs?

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    • ? This user is from outside of this forum
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      last edited by

      pfSense as bridge

      Is bridging the ports together a so called "must be" for you or would also try out routing that
      you come closer to the point that the problem is not based on the bridge here in this game?

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        tim.mcmanus
        last edited by

        Can you replace the hardware or the physical NICs?

        If the kernel is panicking, something really bad is happening. My quick guess is hardware failing and would recommend testing on new or replacement hardware.

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          jasperdillon
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          Bridge setup is a definite requirement. We've got very similar hardware doing NAT / routing as well, and thats toddling along quite happily by itself.

          Can replace the NICs without a prob - any users have strong recommendations? This is production grade, requiring 1GB RJ45 connectivity…
          Looking through the tuning stuff, seems like a lot of Broadcom and Intel cards may have similar probs with nmbufs.

          Looks like it might be bge0 or bge2+ which is failing (though I still don't get the 2+ bit). There's a PCI card in there as well as the onboard (ie. daughter card), so trying to ID which one is causing the issue could be fun!

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            Looking through the tuning stuff,

            It is not a must be, then more a can be done stuff. And with each CPU core one queue would be opened
            per LAN port! So a 8 Core CPU is opening 8 queues for only one LAN Port, and this can be really tricky
            if then not enough space is there, so highhing up the mbufs size will be a real gain for many of us.

            seems like a lot of Broadcom

            This is all driver pending and related stuff. The better the driver support the better you
            pfSense will work with the LAN ports for sure. At the moment you will be really running
            well with Intel cards! Intel Dual or Quad Port server adapter, i210, i350 or i354 would be
            the best from the older and newer ones.

            and Intel cards may have similar probs with nmbufs.

            Once more again this is a problem with the FreeBSD kernel space size and historical grown up
            until today and for freeing up much space from this kernel space we all get now the chance to
            hug up the mbuf size and this can be done easily by adding some RAM inside of the pfSense
            box as well as other tuning things named on the side under your link above.

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              cmb
              last edited by

              What is kern.ipc.nmbufs set to on your system? Run:

              sysctl kern.ipc.nmbufs
              

              to see.

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                jasperdillon
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                kern.ipc.nmbufs: 1,019,445
                (for a little while, pre-reboot, it was set to >1mill in the tunables.)

                We haven't actually had it panic in > 30 hrs now, which is the longest it's gone without any interruption in about 2 weeks…

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                  @jasperdillon:

                  kern.ipc.nmbufs: 1,019,445
                  (for a little while, pre-reboot, it was set to >1mill in the tunables.)

                  We haven't actually had it panic in > 30 hrs now, which is the longest it's gone without any interruption in about 2 weeks…

                  Perhaps you should tell us some hardware tech. specs. over the pfSense box it self, likes CPU,
                  Cores and SSD/HDD. To bring perhaps more stability to the entire pfSense box.

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                    cmb
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                    @jasperdillon:

                    kern.ipc.nmbufs: 1,019,445
                    (for a little while, pre-reboot, it was set to >1mill in the tunables.)

                    Ok that's fine, maybe those logs were from before that change was applied. Just wanted to make sure since nmbclusters is usually what gets set, that it didn't somehow get set differently.

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                      jasperdillon
                      last edited by

                      Just to put some closure on this - looks like the problem has just 'gone away'.
                      Changing it to 1mill (but not over) certainly helped, but didn't resolve it completely.

                      Nothing has changed since in the pfSense config, but it's just not occuring anymore…

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                        divsys
                        last edited by

                        Probably well worthwhile to update to 2.2.5.

                        In your case there may be a small "risk" in that you don't really know what "fixed" your issue, but the stability of 2.2.5 over older releases is worth it in my mind.

                        -jfp

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