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      whosmatt
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      @tigs:

      I know there are lot issues with NIC support from pfsense.

      I don't think that's true.  I've been using pfsense for about 10 years and have yet to run into a NIC that is totally unsupported.  That said, some perform better than others, and that's the reason you'll see Intel NICs recommended.

      But, the hardware listed on the ASRock H170M-ITX/DL is pretty new, so check the supported hardware list to see.  https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/hardware.html#support

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        Guest
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        I5-6600T and tell above mention ASRock H170 board cost about the same as supermicro c2578 board. Atom CPU has poor single core performance. I thought I would be better off with an core CPU.

        Please don´t forget in time now the pfSense WAN Part is single core threaded, but this will be not
        for ever so and if this will be changed at someday the C2758 will be a real bomb for pfSense!!!

        • AES-NI support
        • Intel QuickAssist
        • DPDK over AVX/AVX2 register

        Also the Intel i5-6600T & 8 GB DDR3-1600MHz & SSD, mSATA or M.2 SSD would do the joby perfectly
        but not silent.

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          whosmatt
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          @BlueKobold:

          Please don´t forget in time now the pfSense WAN Part is single core threaded

          Apparently no longer true:  On pfSense 2.2 and later, pf(4) is multi-threaded and can utilize multiple processors, as can the other system daemons, interrupt processing, and other tasks.

          https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Does_pfSense_support_SMP_(multi-processor_and/or_core)_systems

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            Guest
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            Apparently no longer true:  On pfSense 2.2 and later, pf(4) is multi-threaded and can utilize multiple processors, as can the other system daemons, interrupt processing, and other tasks.

            If PPPoE will be used at the WAN interface, it is single threaded and not multi core threaded!
            And many peoples are using PPPoE to connect to the Internet.

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              tigs
              last edited by

              @BlueKobold:

              I5-6600T and tell above mention ASRock H170 board cost about the same as supermicro c2578 board. Atom CPU has poor single core performance. I thought I would be better off with an core CPU.

              Please don´t forget in time now the pfSense WAN Part is single core threaded, but this will be not
              for ever so and if this will be changed at someday the C2758 will be a real bomb for pfSense!!!

              • AES-NI support
              • Intel QuickAssist
              • DPDK over AVX/AVX2 register

              Also the Intel i5-6600T & 8 GB DDR3-1600MHz & SSD, mSATA or M.2 SSD would do the joby perfectly
              but not silent.

              Thank you, Frank and @whosmatt

              I bought the supermicro mini ITX C2758 board with 8G of single strip Kingston ValueRAM for now. I have a spare SSD drive. I am anxiously waiting for them. This will be my Christmas project. I have been reviewing the recipe thread.

              I have one question. I have a spare M350 mini ITX box. It has a 60W (12v, 5A) AC-DC adapter + 20-pin PicoPSU board. The CPU is rated at 20W. do you think the power adapter is adequate? The has is equipped with a 24-pin connector. Which 20 pin on the board should I use? I guess i can experiment, but i don't want to damage it.

              Thanks

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                Guest
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                I bought the supermicro mini ITX C2758 board

                Would be also my first choice for building a strong firewall todays.

                with 8G of single strip Kingston ValueRAM for now.

                Kingston Value RAM is one of the best you can get your hands on this days, nothing fancy
                with heat spreaders on it, but still and good working! Please don´t forget that the C2758 is
                only accepting ECC RAM on it. At www.servethehome.com was a detailed report over this board
                and they were trying out to use non ECC RAM and the board was not working as expected.
                DDR3L-1600MHz would be the best at this time.

                I have a spare SSD drive. I am anxiously waiting for them. This will be my Christmas project.

                Congratulation, later if the DPDK and QuickAssist part will be integrated in the pfSense code, I think we will
                see how much powerful this board really is.

                I have been reviewing the recipe thread.

                There you will be able to dig out many informations about your project.

                I have one question. I have a spare M350 mini ITX box.

                For sure it was the right way to go for your with the C2758 board.

                It has a 60W (12v, 5A) AC-DC adapter + 20-pin PicoPSU board. The CPU is rated at 20W.

                This might be the ugly part of the project, I will more tend there to have a look on this named above thread
                for getting the best results out for you! Electric power supply can be different from each country to country
                we are all living in. So the best would be to have a look on the posts where peoples are reporting about the
                Pico PSU variant they are using and also the external PSU than too.

                do you think the power adapter is adequate?

                I cant tell you anything about it, have a look at this thread and then go and buy a adequate one.
                Better as burning or bricking the brand new board, related on avarice. Then better building step
                by step and having real fun later with it.

                The has is equipped with a 24-pin connector. Which 20 pin on the board should I use? I guess i can experiment, but i don't want to damage it.

                Me too, and there fore I would be better have a look on that "build thread" and gather out informations
                to get adequate equipment or PSU.

                From what I was remembering they were talking about Pico PSU with 4 Pin and something else like
                197 Watt external PSU. But this might be even first be interesting if I built my firewall new again based
                on that board or one of the new Intel Xeon D-1548 platform or a similar board.

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                  reilos
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                  A 20-pin ATX connector can be plugged straight into a 24-pin motherboard socket, leaving pins 11, 12, 23, and 24 unconnected. The four pins that you are leaving open are just redundant lines for higher current capability. The power connector is polarized, so it's difficult to insert it wrong into the header unless you force it really hard. Nevertheless, double check that pin 1 goes into pin 1.

                  I use a PicoPSU-80 to power my A1SRI-2558F build (with only only RAM & 1 SSD installed)

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                    Guest
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                    I use a PicoPSU-80 to power my A1SRI-2558F build (with only only RAM & 1 SSD installed)

                    Would you be so friendly and tell us more? What kind of external PSU (12V, ?Watt) you are using?

                    For a Supermicro A1SRI-2758F-O I was reading something like that:

                    • Supermicro CSE 101i original chassis
                    • Supermicro 80 Watt PSU

                    or

                    M350 mini ITX case
                    PicoPSU 160Watt

                    This is sold together and/or as spare parts each for another one! But what kind of external PSU
                    is needed to run this I also really don´t know.

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                      reilos
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                      @BlueKobold:

                      Would you be so friendly and tell us more? What kind of external PSU (12V, ?Watt) you are using?

                      For a Supermicro A1SRI-2758F-O I was reading something like that:

                      • Supermicro CSE 101i original chassis
                      • Supermicro 80 Watt PSU

                      or

                      M350 mini ITX case
                      PicoPSU 160Watt

                      This is sold together and/or as spare parts each for another one! But what kind of external PSU
                      is needed to run this I also really don´t know.

                      I am using the SC101i case and PicoPSU-80 + 60W Adapter Power Kit.

                      I am not that impressed with the case, since the psu (connector) and behind that the memory module are sort of almost blocking the fan. But so far it stays cool nonetheless

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                        Guest
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                        @reilos
                        thanks for enlighten me.

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                          reilos
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                          @BlueKobold:

                          @reilos
                          thanks for enlighten me.

                          No problem. Good luck with your build!
                          Have a nice weekend!

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