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      murzik
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      RAM is DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) low density.

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        educatedwarrior
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        Hey Cortex.  The number of pins should be 240.  I just upgraded to 2x 2GB DDR2 PC2-5300 Low density at 667 Mhz.  I believe the board supports dual channel and maxes out at a bus sped of 1333 Mhz, so dual channel 667 Mhz should be enough to support maximum bandwidth I believe.  Make sure you get Unbuffered Non-ECC memory.

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          educatedwarrior
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          Could someone please give me some tips on how to remove the old cpu and upgrade to a new cpu.

          I got my new cpu for the XTM 5 in the mail (Xeon X3370) and I was really excited until I took the heat sink of the old cpu.

          The old cpu was seemed to be stuck to the motherboard and I didn't know how to properly move it.  Also, didn't look there was a 775 socket or any type of socket.

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            educatedwarrior
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            Nevermind - these are good instructions I found for modifying device in general ..      http://www.watchguard.com/docs/corporate/wg_xtm5De-MFR_instructions.pdf

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              AlexJamesHaines
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              Hi all, so having read, re-read and double-checked everything on this forum post I am now the proud owner of a standard XTM 510. The front panel is busted (seems a common complaint) but the whole thing seems to be working.

              I have ordered an E8600 (http://ark.intel.com/products/35605/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E8600-6M-Cache-3_33-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB) for just shy of £18 and have dumped in 2 x 2GB sticks of 800MHz DDR2 full height RAM that I had on the shelf. There is absolutely no way I am paying the asking price for 2 x 4GB sticks of low density memory. I am also going to be using a 120GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO from the shelf and have ordered what I hope will work as a bracket converter for those four mounting screws behind the LCD panel.

              This does present me with a problem though as I fear for the safety of the height of the RAM sticks. I propose putting a bit of electricians tape on the casing where the RAM looks as though it could come into contact if the casing is slightly pressed. Ideas?

              Following everything in this forum post I will hopefully be flashing the modded BIOS and installing the latest 64 bit version of the standard installer and removing the CF card. Roll on Wednesday :D

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                Scorch95
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                @AlexJamesHaines:

                Hi all, so having read, re-read and double-checked everything on this forum post I am now the proud owner of a standard XTM 510. The front panel is busted (seems a common complaint) but the whole thing seems to be working.

                I have ordered an E8600 (http://ark.intel.com/products/35605/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E8600-6M-Cache-3_33-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB) for just shy of £18 and have dumped in 2 x 2GB sticks of 800MHz DDR2 full height RAM that I had on the shelf. There is absolutely no way I am paying the asking price for 2 x 4GB sticks of low density memory. I am also going to be using a 120GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO from the shelf and have ordered what I hope will work as a bracket converter for those four mounting screws behind the LCD panel.

                This does present me with a problem though as I fear for the safety of the height of the RAM sticks. I propose putting a bit of electricians tape on the casing where the RAM looks as though it could come into contact if the casing is slightly pressed. Ideas?

                Following everything in this forum post I will hopefully be flashing the modded BIOS and installing the latest 64 bit version of the standard installer and removing the CF card. Roll on Wednesday :D

                Let us know how it goes. I just got an XTM off eBay a week ago and am trying to get all my parts to get it going. Picked up a q9550s and will need to track some ddr2 down. I have a couple wd 320GB black drives (laptop) that I think I will stick one inside for the install and remove CF card. Unless anybody believes these may produce to much heat for the case.

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                  Scorch95
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                  Well got the new processor installed and the hdd added in along with removing the CF. it booted up and installed just fine. Next step is to move it from the kitchen table to the office and connecting it online for packages before doing some testing. Still waiting on ram but so far so good.

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                    JuSt Floppy
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                    Hi,

                    I saw that many people change the celeron 440 to a higher one with more cores. The Celeron have only TDP 35W but all other cpu's have more TDP. Is there no problem with heat? Witch CPU is the best one to pimp that boxes? Specialy XTM 510?

                    thx

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                      chpalmer
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                      @JuSt:

                      Hi,

                      I saw that many people change the celeron 440 to a higher one with more cores. The Celeron have only TDP 35W but all other cpu's have more TDP. Is there no problem with heat? Witch CPU is the best one to pimp that boxes? Specialy XTM 510?

                      thx

                      There truly is noting wrong with staying with the Celeron chip. Some of us are just hotrodders at heart.  ;D

                      Im running a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9650 in a room without AC. It does hover around 55c on the hot days. (Were getting AC this year.) But the fans do adjust to keep up. Right now its at 46c and the room is 70'.

                      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                        JuSt Floppy
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                        Do you know if a Xeon l5420 is running?

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                          zanthos
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                          I have a XTM5 running with a pin modded XEON L5420.
                          It is running fine, I put in 4GB of RAM and use a standard CF card.
                          Currently it is in my basement where it is about 8°C  ;)
                          It draws about 40W…

                          XTM5_L5420.jpg
                          XTM5_L5420.jpg_thumb

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                            JuSt Floppy
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                            Do you use the original bios from watchguard?

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                              zanthos
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                              @JuSt:

                              Do you use the original bios from watchguard?

                              Yes

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                                chpalmer
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                                Does the BIOS you guys have show nothing as user changable?  We just got a couple of XTM515 models that BIOS is pretty much read only.  We can get things to boot correctly though.

                                On these units we have to restart Putty after the boot process  to be able to see anything. Seems a little different from my first models. Boy how a guy can so easily forget. Just looked back on my notes and its been the same from the start.

                                Thing I noticed with the new boxes that I didn't note before.  Armed LED does not come up red with original BIOS. But does with Steves improved version. Of coarse WXP…. file f=works fine and allows control when desired.

                                Can anybody recommend an adapter to mount a 2.5" HD to the mounting lugs by the power supply that you don't have to modify?

                                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                  chpalmer
                                  last edited by

                                  By the way… Just took possession of two XTM515 boxes being retired that have-

                                  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU        E3400  @ 2.60GHz  2 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s)

                                  and 2GB Ram included.

                                  Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                    Scorch95
                                    last edited by

                                    @chpalmer:

                                    Does the BIOS you guys have show nothing as user changable?  We just got a couple of XTM515 models that BIOS is pretty much read only.  We can get things to boot correctly though.

                                    On these units we have to restart Putty after the boot process  to be able to see anything. Seems a little different from my first models. Boy how a guy can so easily forget. Just looked back on my notes and its been the same from the start.

                                    Thing I noticed with the new boxes that I didn't note before.  Armed LED does not come up red with original BIOS. But does with Steves improved version. Of coarse WXP…. file f=works fine and allows control when desired.

                                    Can anybody recommend an adapter to mount a 2.5" HD to the mounting lugs by the power supply that you don't have to modify?

                                    The original bios is indeed read only with no user changeable settings.

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                                      chpalmer
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                                      Just did the bios on these and now the "Armed" light comes up red when we first boot the boxes.  :)  Weird that they would disable those in later bios.

                                      Updated instructions all in one place-  ;D

                                      From the console-  If your using an embedded install you need to make the slice writable…

                                      
                                      pkg
                                      
                                      pkg install flashrom
                                      
                                      rehash
                                      
                                      cd tmp
                                      
                                      fetch https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/xtm5_83.rom
                                      
                                      md5 xtm5_83.rom
                                      
                                      flashrom -w xtm5_83.rom --programmer internal
                                      
                                      

                                      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                        Scorch95
                                        last edited by

                                        @chpalmer:

                                        Just did the bios on these and now the "Armed" light comes up red when we first boot the boxes.  :)  Weird that they would disable those in later bios.

                                        Updated instructions all in one place-  ;D

                                        From the console-  If your using an embedded install you need to make the slice writable…

                                        
                                        pkg
                                        
                                        pkg install flashrom
                                        
                                        rehash
                                        
                                        cd tmp
                                        
                                        fetch https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/xtm5_83.rom
                                        
                                        md5 xtm5_83.rom
                                        
                                        flashrom -w xtm5_83.rom --programmer internal
                                        
                                        

                                        Does this work as is if we're installed to a hard drive?

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                                          chpalmer
                                          last edited by

                                          Only difference should be that with a Nano install you would have to make the cf card writable.  I did this on my unit about a year and a half ago with the hard drive.

                                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                            Scorch95
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                                            So I'm not sure if the arrow keys on my xtm are working correctly. Currently I cycle through the screens with the down and left arrows. Is this normal? What is each arrow suppose to do? Also since loading pfsense I am unable to see the cpu temp. I know it did at one point, is there a way to add this back in?

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