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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      Ruckus has also apparently rolled out a controllerless line based on their ZoneFlex APs. I haven't looked at it closely yet.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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      • jahonixJ
        jahonix
        last edited by

        "Controllerless" is more like "Controller in the cloud". We don't have to love that, I prefer it in-house.
        But controllers aren't necessary at all. I wouldn't even consider them for single or dual AP installs (nor would Ruckus). Just to clarify for the OP.

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        • JailerJ
          Jailer
          last edited by

          Am I to assume that the "controller" would only be needed to set up the access point and not maintain it's operation?

          For example, I see people creating jails and installing controller software for the ubiquiti AP's. Wouldn't it just be prudent for the average home user that has a windows box to install the software to set up the AP and then just let it be?

          Sorry if these questions seem ignorant, I've never worked with any wifi AP's before.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            Controllers do many things. They deploy and tear down SSIDs on many (hundreds) of access points automatically. They look at various metrics and do what they can to coerce the clients to choose the best AP and band based on those metrics. They upgrade AP firmware automatically. They can tell close APs to fire disassociations at anything connected to "rogue" access points. They can VLAN segment clients across multiple VLANs in what would normally be a big, flat network.

            They are worth every penny. Especially if there are any dynamics involved in your not-small wi-fi environment.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            • JailerJ
              Jailer
              last edited by

              Thanks for that reply. I guess it makes sense to have the controller software runnning 24/7 then.

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              • jahonixJ
                jahonix
                last edited by

                It all depends.
                If you only have one to three APs in your home/small business you can configure them by WebGUI or CLI and leave them alone afterwards. No controller needed at all.
                When you deploy in larger scales it absolutely makes sense to have a controller involved.

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, sorry. I missed the "average home user" part.

                  For the ubnt gear, yes. Have the controller installed on the desktop and start it when you need to make a change. Else kill it.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                  • jahonixJ
                    jahonix
                    last edited by

                    @Derelict:

                    For the ubnt gear, yes.

                    Just out of curiosity - would you really use a ZoneDirector with only 2 or 3 APs installed?

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                    • M
                      MontTech
                      last edited by

                      I would agree that the early Engenius products were not that great…But to be fair they were pitched at SOHO and not business/enterprise class.  However, the newer line of Engenius WAPs (EWS) is every bit as good as any of the big names...Trust me we've gone though them all.  I'm sticking to the Engenius EWS line of WAPs....with Meraki as our 2nd choice.  Aruba would be my last choice....we've had more failures with them then any other brand.

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        Just out of curiosity - would you really use a ZoneDirector with only 2 or 3 APs installed?

                        Likely not but it depends on the dynamics of the environment and the needs of the site/customer. If those three APs are routinely handling 100+ associations each then maybe.

                        For a typical install of that size I doubt I'd use Ruckus in the first place. Probably Xclaim or ubnt.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                        • K
                          kapara
                          last edited by

                          I use ubiquiti unify with controller I setup at OVH.  Works fantastic!!!  I manage 20 customer environments with some having 30 AP's across multiple offices.  For most environments unifi is more than enough.  These units auto configure when you drag them into a customer account.  You can apply multiple SSID on them and all use same WPA password so users can roam and if you need to change the password it pushes the change across all of the AP's!

                          I have one customer that has 3 SSID on 3 separate vlan and since all switches in all offices use the same Vlan when I pull the AP in I don't have to do anything to setup the AP!  It's that simple.  Bye bye Cisco and overpriced solutions!!!

                          Skype ID:  Marinhd

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                          • G
                            GomezAddams
                            last edited by

                            Not sure if you are still looking, but Cisco has an unbelievable deal on 2504 wireless LAN controllers, 25 AP license, and two access points. They price varies depending on the APs you get with the bundle, but the package with two top-end 3702i APs is only $2000. The APs alone cost almost that much. The 25 AP license is more than that.

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                              AR15USR
                              last edited by

                              Interested in this as well. If you get a Ubiquity AP are you required to use one of their their UniFi switches?


                              2.6.0-RELEASE

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                              • pttP
                                ptt Rebel Alliance
                                last edited by

                                @AR15USR:

                                Interested in this as well. If you get a Ubiquity AP are you required to use one of their their UniFi switches?

                                It's spelled "Ubiquiti"  :D

                                And, No, you don't need to use their UniFi Switches

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                                  AR15USR
                                  last edited by

                                  @ptt:

                                  @AR15USR:

                                  Interested in this as well. If you get a Ubiquity AP are you required to use one of their their UniFi switches?

                                  It's spelled "Ubiquiti"  :D

                                  And, No, you don't need to use their UniFi Switches

                                  Arrgghh, I keep doing that!


                                  2.6.0-RELEASE

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                                  • M
                                    mhab12
                                    last edited by

                                    Shameless plug for Ubiquiti.  Just pulled the trigger on one 2xAP SOHO setup and now have done a few more - all using the AC Pro APs.  Also love their 'cloud key' product.  Spend ~$80 once and get Meraki-esque remote access plus the bonus of having a local controller.  If only I could get back the hours of my life I spent configuring Cisco APs.

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