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    • J
      jfd.lewgmail.com
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      Ok, first off for the tl;dr crowd - Cisco SG300-10 or Netgear ProSafe GS116E?

      For anyone else - I need to separate my work laptop and other office equipment from my local network. Work doesn't like my work stuff on any network other than their own, even though I work from home.

      I currently have an 8 port dummy netgear connected to pfsense. 2 lines are run off that to my home office which has a 5 port dummy net gear switch for my laptop, printer, etc.

      I think, because I like to tinker, that my best option is to replace the 8 port with a managed 10 or 16 port and go the VLAN route to separate them to their own LAN. I've narrowed it down to these two. Other than having more ports (which I really won't need), are their any pros/cons of either or experiences anyone would like to share?

      Thanks!!

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        Guest
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        Cisco SG300-10 or Netgear ProSafe GS116E?

        If I have personally to chose one of these switches I would go with the SG300-10 for around ~200 €
        units! Really cool WebGui and also CLI on top of this! Many features, functions and options to realize
        nearly all what would be interesting for a small home network. And the best of it is it will be able to
        route VLANs on wire speed by its own, and not the firewall must be involved to do that.

        I would vote for the Cisco SG300 unit if the money will be there.

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          whosmatt
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          I'd go for the Cisco if you're at all familiar with the CLI config of Cisco or similar switches.  I just prefer it.  Not sure about GUI interface on the Cisco, but if that's the configuration method you prefer maybe go for the Netgear or any other "smart" switch on the market.  I use a TP-Link TL-SG108E at home.  Not fancy, but supports the features I need, albeit without a command line that I'm aware of.  Might save you a bit of cash if all you need is VLAN support.

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          • J
            jfd.lewgmail.com
            last edited by

            Thank you both. I've been leaning towards the Cisco, but wanted other opinions first. Having CLI is a great advantage, even though, from what I have read, is that it is not 'true' IOS. As for price, Amazon has both of them right now for about $125 US, which makes it even more difficult since they are literally the same price.

            Anyone else have any opinion on either?

            Thanks!

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              Guest
              last edited by

              Thank you both. I've been leaning towards the Cisco, but wanted other opinions first. Having CLI is a great advantage, even though, from what I have read, is that it is not 'true' IOS

              It is not the iOS but much better then the other vendors are offering.

              As for price, Amazon has both of them right now for about $125 US, which makes it even more difficult since they are literally the same price.

              The Netgear is a Layer2 switch
              The Cisco is a Layer3 Switch
              (where the Layer3 feature set can be disabled if not needed, but also enabled and this is not able to realize with the Netgear switch)

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                Guest
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                @cf_murph:

                Ok, first off for the tl;dr crowd - Cisco SG300-10 or Netgear ProSafe GS116E?

                For anyone else - I need to separate my work laptop and other office equipment from my local network. Work doesn't like my work stuff on any network other than their own, even though I work from home.

                I currently have an 8 port dummy netgear connected to pfsense. 2 lines are run off that to my home office which has a 5 port dummy net gear switch for my laptop, printer, etc.

                I think, because I like to tinker, that my best option is to replace the 8 port with a managed 10 or 16 port and go the VLAN route to separate them to their own LAN. I've narrowed it down to these two. Other than having more ports (which I really won't need), are their any pros/cons of either or experiences anyone would like to share?

                Thanks!!

                I'm currently using a TP-Link TL-SG2424v2 Smart (Managed) Switch. I like it a lot and it give you 24 ports; of which 4 are SFP combo ports. I picked it up at FRYS Electronics for $169 last year. Quite a bit cheaper and just as good as the two options you have above.

                Here is some of the features which are largely standard but it is quite a bit for the relatively low price.
                • Gigabit Ethernet connections on all ports provide full speed of data transferring
                • L2+ Feature-Static Routing, helps route internal traffic for more efficient use of network resources
                • Integrated security strategy including 802.1Q VLAN, Port Security and Storm control help protect LAN area investment
                • L2/L3/L4 QoS and IGMP snooping optimize voice and video applications
                • IPv6 support with dual IPv4/IPv6 stack, MLD snooping, IPv6 neighbor discovery
                • WEB/CLI managed modes, SNMP, RMON and Dual Image bring abundant management features
                • Industry-leading 2-year warranty and unlimited 24/7 technical support

                http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/TL-SG2424_V2.html
                http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-JetStream-24-Port-Gigabit-T1600G-28TS/dp/B016M1QTS2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1460540488&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=TL-SG2424+V2

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                • jahonixJ
                  jahonix
                  last edited by

                  @cf_murph:

                  Anyone else have any opinion on either?

                  Go with the SG300.
                  I have yet to see a Cisco fail personally. Five out of the 6 Netgears I've ever had my hands on don't live anymore. No wonder I run when I hear their name.

                  You might consider TP-Link switches as well.
                  At home I have a TL-SG5428 as core switch and 3 or 4 TL-SG3210 on edges together with one SG300-20 (in the living room, go figure!  ;-).

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                    mattlach
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                    @jahonix:

                    Go with the SG300.
                    I have yet to see a Cisco fail personally. Five out of the 6 Netgears I've ever had my hands on don't live anymore. No wonder I run when I hear their name.

                    Second this.  I have had poor experiences with Netgears.  Their cheap ones will do in a pinch, because they are so cheap, but if you are getting a larger more expensive switch, I'd get something else.

                    I've had great experiences with HP Procurve switches.  My current 1810G-24 has been a real trooper.  I have a lifetime overnight replacement warranty on it, but I don't need it because it's never come even close to having a problem.

                    If you don't need a 24 port switch, they come in 8 port varieties as well (I have one of these too) and they are great.

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                      bennyc
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                      +1 for the SG300. Have it at home, serving me already a couple of years without any issue. Can be a set and forget if you like it to be…

                      I have had that netgear 16-port, and you should be aware that it has no real gui. You need to install a soft that uses bonjour to configure it, and if that wasn't bad enough I wasn't able to choose on which vlan I could access the switch for management. Perhaps in meantime they improved their soft, but at that time it was so and unfortunately I couldn't live with it, so I counted my losses and cashed for a Cisco. (should have done that in the first place, lessons learned)

                      You have been warned  ;)

                      If you are on a budget, I have set up TP-Links for others, and they feel pretty solid and are loaded with the right set of features. Hard to beat for the money, though they may not have the same MTBF figures as Cisco.

                      my 2cents...

                      4x XG-7100 (2xHA), 1x SG-4860, 1x SG-2100
                      1x PC Engines APU2C4, 1x PC Engines APU1C4

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                        coxhaus
                        last edited by

                        I have been running a Cisco SG300 switches for a couple years and several months with pfsense.  No issues. I run in layer 3 mode with the switch being my DHCP server and VLAN router.  Pfsense handles all the firewall and internet traffic.

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                          Guest
                          last edited by

                          Five out of the 6 Netgears I've ever had my hands on don't live anymore. No wonder I run when I hear their name.

                          Here in that case I would consider to go with the Cisco SG300 switch and for the same price there should be not
                          talked about. But in many other cases I personally and inside of my company where I work we are using Netgear Switches without any problems at all! So some switches from Netgear I would in other case surely suggesting.
                          GS105Ev2
                          GS108Ev2
                          GS105PE
                          GS108PE
                          GS108Tv2
                          GS110T
                          GS110TP 
                          M5300 series
                          M6100 series
                          M7100 series
                          M7300 series

                          Running without any problems and the upcoming M4200 and M4300 series will be also be in use later this
                          year so I can´t tell anything about them. There should be no problem to use them straight down the road.

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                            damir
                            last edited by

                            Is the the model you guys are recommending?

                            http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150087&cm_re=SG300--33-150-087--Product

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                              Guest
                              last edited by

                              @NEK4TE:

                              Is the the model you guys are recommending?

                              http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150087&cm_re=SG300--33-150-087--Product

                              The Cisco SG300-10 is one of the best switches in the field and you can´t make something wrong with it.

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                              • jahonixJ
                                jahonix
                                last edited by

                                @NEK4TE:

                                Is the the model you guys are recommending?

                                Yes if you don't need PoE.

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                                  dmurphynj
                                  last edited by

                                  @mattlach:

                                  I've had great experiences with HP Procurve switches.  My current 1810G-24 has been a real trooper.  I have a lifetime overnight replacement warranty on it, but I don't need it because it's never come even close to having a problem.

                                  If you don't need a 24 port switch, they come in 8 port varieties as well (I have one of these too) and they are great.

                                  I will completely echo this.  My entire home LAN has HP switches throughout.  I have an 1810g-8, an 1810-24g, and the core switch is an HP 1920-24g-poe+.

                                  Fantastic gear, all works tremendously well for my purposes.

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                                    damir
                                    last edited by

                                    Friend of mine is recommending me to get:  DGS-1100-16 (D-Link) (he has been using it now with his pfSense setup / similar to what i will be doing, without any issue, he says)

                                    Any thoughts on this? Its cheaper then most of the recommended models.

                                    However, i will not be doing anything crazy, few VLAN, Probably Link Aggregation (2Ports) with QNAP and maybe few ports Jumbo Frames.

                                    Please advise

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      The SG300-28 is a Layer 3 switch for $250.

                                      I have used those DGS-1100 units for some small jobs. They seem to do as they're told.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        damir
                                        last edited by

                                        Big thanks for responding sir.

                                        My concern about this switch is: 802.3ad Link Aggregation

                                        I am still deciding between 16 and 24 port.

                                        I just found a review @ newegg:
                                        http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127356CVF&cm_re=DGS-1100-24--33-127-356CVF--Product

                                        " Cons: No IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link aggregation support. Hardware version A1. The switch is small, it could be mounted in the rack but will be site in the middle, I was expecting a full size Cisco switch. The switch looks more like desktop switch than a rack mountable switch. "

                                        After checking @ : http://ca.dlink.com/products/business-solutions/easysmart-16-port-gigabit-switch/
                                        It shows:
                                        • 802.3ad Link Aggregation
                                            • 1 group, 2-4 ports per group (DGS-1100-05)
                                            • 2 groups, 2-4 ports per group (DGS-1100-08/-08P)
                                            • 5 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-10MP)
                                            • 8 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-16)
                                            • 12 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-24/-24P)
                                            • 13 groups, 8 ports per group (DGS-1100-26MP)

                                        The reason i am making sure this switch covers it, is:
                                        https://www.qnap.com/i/en/tutorial/con_show.php?op=showone&cid=216

                                        If any1 could advise about this as well, i would really appreciate it.

                                        Thanks

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          I didn't use .ad in my implementation. I can say it works fine on the SG300. The docs say its supported, so be sure to get the version that it's supported on.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            damir
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank you again for fast response.

                                            I will do some more re-search, as well contact D-Link in the morning.

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