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    • O
      oddworld19
      last edited by

      I set the "-P 0" flag on the server and the "-P 4" flag on the client. Is that right?

      With pfsense as server, I get 112 MBytes/s and with pfsense as client, I get 219 MBytes/s. That's strange…... I'm not sure how I even reached 219. To be honest, I'm not sure how to interpret these results.

      With pfsense acting as server

      [2.3-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: iperf -s -P 0 -i 1 -p 5001 -f M -B 192.168.10.1
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Server listening on TCP port 5001
      Binding to local address 192.168.10.1
      TCP window size: 0.06 MByte (default)
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      [  4] local 192.168.10.1 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 35998
      [  5] local 192.168.10.1 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 35999
      [  7] local 192.168.10.1 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 36001
      [  6] local 192.168.10.1 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 36000
      [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  4]  0.0- 1.0 sec  26.6 MBytes  26.6 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0- 1.0 sec  30.6 MBytes  30.6 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  0.0- 1.0 sec  26.5 MBytes  26.5 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0- 1.0 sec  28.4 MBytes  28.4 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0- 1.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  1.0- 2.0 sec  26.8 MBytes  26.8 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  1.0- 2.0 sec  30.6 MBytes  30.6 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  1.0- 2.0 sec  29.1 MBytes  29.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  1.0- 2.0 sec  25.6 MBytes  25.6 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  1.0- 2.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  2.0- 3.0 sec  27.6 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  2.0- 3.0 sec  29.8 MBytes  29.8 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  2.0- 3.0 sec  25.9 MBytes  25.9 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  2.0- 3.0 sec  28.7 MBytes  28.7 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  2.0- 3.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  3.0- 4.0 sec  26.7 MBytes  26.7 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  3.0- 4.0 sec  29.1 MBytes  29.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  3.0- 4.0 sec  28.3 MBytes  28.3 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  3.0- 4.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  3.0- 4.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  4.0- 5.0 sec  26.6 MBytes  26.6 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  4.0- 5.0 sec  29.4 MBytes  29.4 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  4.0- 5.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  4.0- 5.0 sec  27.9 MBytes  27.9 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  4.0- 5.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  5.0- 6.0 sec  27.0 MBytes  27.0 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  5.0- 6.0 sec  28.4 MBytes  28.4 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  5.0- 6.0 sec  29.0 MBytes  29.0 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  5.0- 6.0 sec  27.7 MBytes  27.7 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  5.0- 6.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  6.0- 7.0 sec  28.4 MBytes  28.4 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  6.0- 7.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  6.0- 7.0 sec  27.8 MBytes  27.8 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  6.0- 7.0 sec  27.7 MBytes  27.7 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  6.0- 7.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  7.0- 8.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  7.0- 8.0 sec  27.3 MBytes  27.3 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  7.0- 8.0 sec  28.3 MBytes  28.3 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  7.0- 8.0 sec  28.3 MBytes  28.3 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  7.0- 8.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  8.0- 9.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  8.0- 9.0 sec  28.3 MBytes  28.3 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  8.0- 9.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  8.0- 9.0 sec  27.6 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  8.0- 9.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  9.0-10.0 sec  28.0 MBytes  28.0 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  9.0-10.0 sec  28.4 MBytes  28.4 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  9.0-10.0 sec  28.2 MBytes  28.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  9.0-10.0 sec  27.4 MBytes  27.4 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  9.0-10.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  0.0-10.1 sec   276 MBytes  27.4 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0-10.1 sec   291 MBytes  28.9 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  0.0-10.1 sec   278 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0-10.1 sec   284 MBytes  28.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0-10.1 sec  1129 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      
      XXXXXXXX@yyyyYYYyyYY:~$ iperf -c 192.168.10.1 -P 4 -i 1 -p 5001 -f M -t 10
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Client connecting to 192.168.10.1, TCP port 5001
      TCP window size: 0.08 MByte (default)
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      [  5] local 192.168.10.66 port 36000 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 5001
      [  3] local 192.168.10.66 port 35998 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 5001
      [  4] local 192.168.10.66 port 35999 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 5001
      [  6] local 192.168.10.66 port 36001 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 5001
      [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  4]  0.0- 1.0 sec  32.1 MBytes  32.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0- 1.0 sec  27.6 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0- 1.0 sec  30.1 MBytes  30.1 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  0.0- 1.0 sec  28.0 MBytes  28.0 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0- 1.0 sec   118 MBytes   118 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  1.0- 2.0 sec  29.0 MBytes  29.0 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  1.0- 2.0 sec  27.1 MBytes  27.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  1.0- 2.0 sec  31.0 MBytes  31.0 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  1.0- 2.0 sec  26.1 MBytes  26.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  1.0- 2.0 sec   113 MBytes   113 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  2.0- 3.0 sec  27.1 MBytes  27.1 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  2.0- 3.0 sec  28.8 MBytes  28.8 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  2.0- 3.0 sec  29.8 MBytes  29.8 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  2.0- 3.0 sec  26.0 MBytes  26.0 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  2.0- 3.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  3.0- 4.0 sec  27.9 MBytes  27.9 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  3.0- 4.0 sec  28.8 MBytes  28.8 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  3.0- 4.0 sec  27.1 MBytes  27.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  3.0- 4.0 sec  28.6 MBytes  28.6 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  3.0- 4.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  4.0- 5.0 sec  27.5 MBytes  27.5 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  4.0- 5.0 sec  26.5 MBytes  26.5 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  4.0- 5.0 sec  29.8 MBytes  29.8 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  4.0- 5.0 sec  28.2 MBytes  28.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  4.0- 5.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  5.0- 6.0 sec  26.9 MBytes  26.9 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  5.0- 6.0 sec  29.0 MBytes  29.0 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  5.0- 6.0 sec  27.5 MBytes  27.5 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  5.0- 6.0 sec  28.9 MBytes  28.9 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  5.0- 6.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  6.0- 7.0 sec  27.6 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  6.0- 7.0 sec  28.6 MBytes  28.6 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  6.0- 7.0 sec  27.5 MBytes  27.5 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  6.0- 7.0 sec  27.8 MBytes  27.8 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  6.0- 7.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  7.0- 8.0 sec  28.2 MBytes  28.2 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  7.0- 8.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  7.0- 8.0 sec  27.4 MBytes  27.4 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  7.0- 8.0 sec  28.4 MBytes  28.4 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  7.0- 8.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  8.0- 9.0 sec  27.6 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  8.0- 9.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  8.0- 9.0 sec  28.2 MBytes  28.2 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  8.0- 9.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  8.0- 9.0 sec   112 MBytes   112 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  9.0-10.0 sec  27.9 MBytes  27.9 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   276 MBytes  27.6 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  9.0-10.0 sec  28.8 MBytes  28.8 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   284 MBytes  28.3 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  9.0-10.0 sec  27.9 MBytes  27.9 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec   291 MBytes  29.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  9.0-10.0 sec  29.0 MBytes  29.0 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  9.0-10.0 sec   114 MBytes   114 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0-10.0 sec   278 MBytes  27.8 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  1129 MBytes   113 MBytes/sec
      
      

      With pfsense acting as client

      [2.3-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: iperf -c 192.168.10.66 -P 4 -i 1 -                                    p 5001 -f M -t 10
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Client connecting to 192.168.10.66, TCP port 5001
      TCP window size: 0.06 MByte (default)
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      [  6] local 192.168.10.1 port 15069 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 5001
      [  5] local 192.168.10.1 port 4301 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 5001
      [  4] local 192.168.10.1 port 10417 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 5001
      [  3] local 192.168.10.1 port 46991 connected with 192.168.10.66 port 5001
      [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  6]  0.0- 1.0 sec  56.9 MBytes  56.9 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0- 1.0 sec  56.9 MBytes  56.9 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  0.0- 1.0 sec  74.4 MBytes  74.4 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  0.0- 1.0 sec  31.2 MBytes  31.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0- 1.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  1.0- 2.0 sec  56.4 MBytes  56.4 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  1.0- 2.0 sec  56.4 MBytes  56.4 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  1.0- 2.0 sec  71.5 MBytes  71.5 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  1.0- 2.0 sec  35.2 MBytes  35.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  1.0- 2.0 sec   220 MBytes   220 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  2.0- 3.0 sec  56.4 MBytes  56.4 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  2.0- 3.0 sec  56.4 MBytes  56.4 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  2.0- 3.0 sec  80.6 MBytes  80.6 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  2.0- 3.0 sec  26.4 MBytes  26.4 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  2.0- 3.0 sec   220 MBytes   220 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  3.0- 4.0 sec  56.4 MBytes  56.4 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  3.0- 4.0 sec  56.4 MBytes  56.4 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  3.0- 4.0 sec  82.1 MBytes  82.1 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  3.0- 4.0 sec  24.6 MBytes  24.6 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  3.0- 4.0 sec   220 MBytes   220 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  4.0- 5.0 sec  56.2 MBytes  56.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  4.0- 5.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  4.0- 5.0 sec  75.9 MBytes  75.9 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  4.0- 5.0 sec  30.6 MBytes  30.6 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  4.0- 5.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  5.0- 6.0 sec  56.2 MBytes  56.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  5.0- 6.0 sec  56.2 MBytes  56.2 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  5.0- 6.0 sec  78.8 MBytes  78.8 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  5.0- 6.0 sec  28.1 MBytes  28.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  5.0- 6.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  6.0- 7.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  6.0- 7.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  6.0- 7.0 sec  72.8 MBytes  72.8 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  6.0- 7.0 sec  34.2 MBytes  34.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  6.0- 7.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  7.0- 8.0 sec  56.0 MBytes  56.0 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  7.0- 8.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  7.0- 8.0 sec  79.4 MBytes  79.4 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  7.0- 8.0 sec  27.2 MBytes  27.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  7.0- 8.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  8.0- 9.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  8.0- 9.0 sec  56.0 MBytes  56.0 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  8.0- 9.0 sec  70.8 MBytes  70.8 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  8.0- 9.0 sec  36.2 MBytes  36.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  8.0- 9.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  9.0-10.0 sec  72.4 MBytes  72.4 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  9.0-10.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0-10.0 sec   563 MBytes  56.3 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  9.0-10.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   563 MBytes  56.3 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec   759 MBytes  75.9 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  9.0-10.0 sec  34.4 MBytes  34.4 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  9.0-10.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   308 MBytes  30.8 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  2193 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [2.3-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root:
      
      
      XXXXX@YYYYY:~$ iperf -s -P 0 -i 1 -p 5001 -f M
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Server listening on TCP port 5001
      TCP window size: 0.08 MByte (default)
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      [  4] local 192.168.10.66 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 46991
      [  5] local 192.168.10.66 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 10417
      [  6] local 192.168.10.66 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 15069
      [  7] local 192.168.10.66 port 5001 connected with 192.168.10.1 port 4301
      [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
      [  4]  0.0- 1.0 sec  31.0 MBytes  31.0 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0- 1.0 sec  74.1 MBytes  74.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0- 1.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  0.0- 1.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0- 1.0 sec   217 MBytes   217 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  1.0- 2.0 sec  71.4 MBytes  71.4 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  1.0- 2.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  1.0- 2.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  1.0- 2.0 sec  35.2 MBytes  35.2 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  1.0- 2.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  2.0- 3.0 sec  26.2 MBytes  26.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  2.0- 3.0 sec  80.6 MBytes  80.6 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  2.0- 3.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  2.0- 3.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  2.0- 3.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  3.0- 4.0 sec  82.0 MBytes  82.0 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  3.0- 4.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  3.0- 4.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  3.0- 4.0 sec  24.8 MBytes  24.8 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  3.0- 4.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  4.0- 5.0 sec  30.5 MBytes  30.5 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  4.0- 5.0 sec  75.9 MBytes  75.9 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  4.0- 5.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  4.0- 5.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  4.0- 5.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  5.0- 6.0 sec  28.2 MBytes  28.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  5.0- 6.0 sec  78.7 MBytes  78.7 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  5.0- 6.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  5.0- 6.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  5.0- 6.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  6.0- 7.0 sec  34.2 MBytes  34.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  6.0- 7.0 sec  72.8 MBytes  72.8 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  6.0- 7.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  6.0- 7.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  6.0- 7.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  7.0- 8.0 sec  27.2 MBytes  27.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  7.0- 8.0 sec  79.4 MBytes  79.4 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  7.0- 8.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  7.0- 8.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  7.0- 8.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  8.0- 9.0 sec  36.2 MBytes  36.2 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  8.0- 9.0 sec  70.7 MBytes  70.7 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  8.0- 9.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  8.0- 9.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  8.0- 9.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  9.0-10.0 sec  34.5 MBytes  34.5 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  9.0-10.0 sec  72.4 MBytes  72.4 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  9.0-10.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  9.0-10.0 sec  56.1 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  9.0-10.0 sec   219 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      [  4]  0.0-10.0 sec   308 MBytes  30.8 MBytes/sec
      [  5]  0.0-10.0 sec   759 MBytes  75.8 MBytes/sec
      [  7]  0.0-10.0 sec   563 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [  6]  0.0-10.0 sec   563 MBytes  56.1 MBytes/sec
      [SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  2193 MBytes   219 MBytes/sec
      
      

      Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4 (Atom c2758)
      pfSense 2.3.2

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        Downloadski
        last edited by

        Well try 8 streams than.

        It could be that the packet flow is not optimized to come from the firewall itself, but more to push data through from lan to wan.

        I assume if pfsense is the server and you send data to it, all rules will have to be inpected, and you hit on the last one (logically)
        Perhaps move it to top for test and see if it improves, than you know if going through the rules has such a impact.

        With pfsense as client it is pushing data out so no filters at all i assume.

        And that 219 is the total of the 4 sessions that run in parrallel.

        If i think about it, pfsense its lagg seems to work if the total is above 125 MB/sec it must go over more than one link.

        If that does not work for a pc connected to your switch, the switch does not distribute the session over multiple links. That is default for 1 connected pc.

        You could test in parrallel with 2 clients against the pfsense server.
        If the total of the 2 clients goes above 125 Mb/sec the traffic goes over more than 1 link.

        (You will never see 125 MB/sec in real world over 1GE links)

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        • O
          oddworld19
          last edited by

          Okay. Here are the results. What do they mean?

          8 streams w/ pfsense as server  [SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  1133 MBytes  113 MBytes/sec
          12 streams w/ pfsense as server  [SUM]  0.0-10.1 sec  1138 MBytes  113 MBytes/sec
          32 streams w/ pfsense as server [SUM]  0.0-10.2 sec  1151 MBytes  113 MBytes/sec
          64 streams w/ pfsense as server  [SUM]  0.0-10.3 sec  1163 MBytes  113 MBytes/sec

          8 streams w/ pfsense as client  [SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  2160 MBytes  216 MBytes/sec
          12 streams w/ pfsense as client  [SUM]  0.0-10.0 sec  2848 MBytes  284 MBytes/sec
          32 streams w/ pfsense as client  [SUM]  0.0-10.3 sec  3249 MBytes  314 MBytes/sec
          64 streams w/ pfsense as client  [SUM]  0.0-10.5 sec  3269 MBytes  312 MBytes/sec

          Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4 (Atom c2758)
          pfSense 2.3.2

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            oddworld19
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            When I test pfsense acting as server, and two clients sending data at the same time using this:

            iperf -c 192.168.10.1 -P 64 -i 1 -p 5001 -f M -t 10
            

            Then the result is that both clients each have the following result:

            Client #1
            [SUM]  0.0-10.2 sec  1153 MBytes  113 MBytes/sec

            Client #2
            [SUM]  0.0-10.3 sec  1162 MBytes  113 MBytes/sec

            When I run the following, they each only get 56.9 MB/s

            iperf -c 192.168.10.1 -P 1 -i 1 -p 5001 -f M -t 10
            

            That tells me that LACP is working because I could saturate the line with -P 64

            Why does a single -P stream not saturate the line?

            Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4 (Atom c2758)
            pfSense 2.3.2

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              Downloadski
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              It seems to me the lacp is working on the pfsense side.

              I do not know juniper, but with a ciso you can only do lacp if the physical interface members have the same configuration. So port speed, duplex, mdix etc.
              Perhaps you can check that ?

              Read this one: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos15.1/topics/concept/interfaces-hashing-lag-ecmp-understanding.html

              Standard hashing is on payload it seems,mall the iperf packets might have the same payload, so they end up on 1 of the members of the link..
              Change to level 2 info, your clients have different mac adresses.

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                oddworld19
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                I see more info on hashing here:  https://forums.juniper.net/t5/Ethernet-Switching/EX2200-LACP-hashing-algorithm/td-p/107844

                I don't see any issue with LACP. I'm expecting it to only do one gigabit links for four separate clients. I think it's strange that I need more than one stream of iperf to saturate the line. In my tests on the management interface, I plugged a linux machine directly into the management port. No switch involved.

                Any idea why iperf needs -P 32 or 32 Streams to saturate the line?

                Included information about my LACP link below:

                root> show interfaces ae0
                Physical interface: ae0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
                  Interface index: 128, SNMP ifIndex: 599
                  Description: pfsense
                  Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, Speed: 4Gbps, BPDU Error: None, MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled,
                  Source filtering: Disabled, Flow control: Disabled, Minimum links needed: 1, Minimum bandwidth needed: 0
                  Device flags   : Present Running
                  Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: XXXXXXX
                  Current address: XXXXX, Hardware address: XXXXX
                  Last flapped   : 2016-04-14 17:32:53 CDT (20:17:55 ago)
                  Input rate     : 113307208 bps (13345 pps)
                  Output rate    : 113834880 bps (13366 pps)
                
                  Logical interface ae0.0 (Index 65) (SNMP ifIndex 603)
                    Flags: SNMP-Traps 0xc0004000 Encapsulation: ENET2
                    Statistics        Packets        pps         Bytes          bps
                    Bundle:
                        Input :         14611          0        916446            0
                        Output:       2293348          0     245371565            0
                    Adaptive Statistics:
                        Adaptive Adjusts:          0
                        Adaptive Scans  :          0
                        Adaptive Updates:          0
                    Protocol eth-switch
                      Flags: Is-Primary, Trunk-Mode
                
                

                Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4 (Atom c2758)
                pfSense 2.3.2

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                  Downloadski
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                  What OS are the client pc's running ?
                  It might be the iperf clients for the OS version issues.

                  My test from pc with windows 7 to freebsd 10.1 server was 350 MB/sec with one session in iperf.
                  It also depends on buffer size, packet size tested etc, i think.

                  This was with 10GE link over intel cards.
                  Wintel combination did not want to go faster than that it seems.

                  Freebsd to freebsd was simply close to line rate with one session.

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                    Guest
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                    I don't see any issue with LACP. I'm expecting it to only do one gigabit links for four separate clients.

                    In normal 4 single line will be aggregated to one fat pipe that is then in numbers the 4x (400%) of that single
                    line as an example here showing then up as 4 GBit/s aggregated.

                    I think it's strange that I need more than one stream of iperf to saturate the line.

                    How much you will need to saturate one single line?

                    In my tests on the management interface, I plugged a linux machine directly into the management port. No switch involved.

                    And no LAG, VLAN and QoS over all or?

                    Any idea why iperf needs -P 32 or 32 Streams to saturate the line?

                    Each line has its speed limit but this is mostly also owed to other circumstances besides.

                    Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, Speed: 4Gbps, BPDU Error: None, MAC-REWRITE Error:
                    

                    1.- What is the MTU size on all devices in that test?
                    2.- What does you configure the LAG?
                    – (2 Lines sending and 2 lines receiving or 4 lines sending and receiving)
                    -- (active / active all lines are in usage or active passive one line is in usage and the rest is as spare for failover)

                    In normal you will have no need for that experiences to go with your set up.
                    You can do the following things in my eyes.
                    1.- Setting up a static (manual) LAG and use round robin method and on top 2 line for sending and 2 lines
                    for receiving by using active / active
                    2.- You could use your Layer3 switch to route between the VLANs only inside of that switch that will be
                    more nearly wire speed and the freed capacities from the pfSense box you will be perhaps able to use for
                    other things, or as a silent reserve.

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                      oddworld19
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                      How much you will need to saturate one single line?

                      It looks like "-P 2" will saturate the line, but "-P 1" will not.

                      In my tests on the management interface, I plugged a linux machine directly into the management port. No switch involved.

                      And no LAG, VLAN and QoS over all or?

                      Correct. The management port does not have any LAGG, VLAN or any other tags. Just one computer plugged directly into the pfsense machine.

                      1.- What is the MTU size on all devices in that test?
                      2.- What does you configure the LAG?
                      – (2 Lines sending and 2 lines receiving or 4 lines sending and receiving)
                      -- (active / active all lines are in usage or active passive one line is in usage and the rest is as spare for failover)

                      To answer #1
                      MTU on Juniper switch is 1514.
                      MTU on linux clients are 1500.
                      MTU on pfsense LAGG is 1500.
                      MTU on pfsense igb0 / igb1 / igb2 / igb3 are each 1500
                      Detailed ifconfig is below

                      To answer #2
                      LAGG is configured as LACP over 4 lines. Each of the 4 lines both send and receive. If one line goes down, Juniper will ignore it and then use the remaining acceptable lines. Only one line is necessary to maintain satisfactory connection.

                      ifconfig on pfsense:
                      
                      THIS IS THE LAGG
                      lagg0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                              options=400bb <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,jumbo_mtu,vlan_hwcsum,vlan_hwtso>ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
                              inet6 XXXXXXXXXXXXX%lagg0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb
                              inet 192.168.10.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.10.255
                              inet 10.10.10.1 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 10.10.10.1
                              nd6 options=21 <performnud,auto_linklocal>media: Ethernet autoselect
                              status: active
                              laggproto lacp lagghash l2,l3,l4
                              laggport: igb0 flags=1c <active,collecting,distributing>laggport: igb1 flags=1c <active,collecting,distributing>laggport: igb2 flags=1c <active,collecting,distributing>laggport: igb3 flags=1c <active,collecting,distributing>THIS IS MANAGEMENT PORT 
                      em1: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                              options=4009b <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum,vlan_hwtso>ether XXXXXXXXXXXX
                              inet6 XXXXXXXXXXXX%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
                              inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.5.255
                              nd6 options=21 <performnud,auto_linklocal>media: Ethernet autoselect
                              status: no carrier
                      
                      THIS IS ONE OF THE PORTS INCLUDED IN THE LAGG
                      igb0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                              options=400bb <rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,jumbo_mtu,vlan_hwcsum,vlan_hwtso>ether XXXXXXXXXXXX
                              nd6 options=21 <performnud,auto_linklocal>media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT <full-duplex>)
                              status: active</full-duplex></performnud,auto_linklocal></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,jumbo_mtu,vlan_hwcsum,vlan_hwtso></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,auto_linklocal></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,vlan_hwcsum,vlan_hwtso></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></active,collecting,distributing></active,collecting,distributing></active,collecting,distributing></active,collecting,distributing></performnud,auto_linklocal></rxcsum,txcsum,vlan_mtu,vlan_hwtagging,jumbo_mtu,vlan_hwcsum,vlan_hwtso></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                      

                      Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4 (Atom c2758)
                      pfSense 2.3.2

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                        mikeisfly
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                        PC1 core i5-3470 3.2 GHz /w 4GB or RAM SAMSUNG SSD 830 EVO, OS Windows 10 pro (10.0.10586)
                        PC2 core i5-2400 3.1 GHz /w 8GB of RAM SAMSUNG SSD 840 EVO , OS Windows 10 Pro (10.0.10586)
                        A network share was configured on PC1 , the test file:

                        Spartacus Season 1 Episode 1 Past Transgressions.mkv:
                        file size is 4,583,539 KB (About 4.3 GB)

                        Both PCs are connected to an HP Procurve 2810-24G and I have 4 port LAGG (LACP) going back to a Brocade FastIron 648P. From the Brocade I have a single Gigabit port going to my PfSense Firewall which is using the built in Intel NIC on the motherboard as the LAN port. The LAN port is sub-interfaced with 5 virtual ports.
                                      GbE                                                        x4 GbE(LAG)
                        [PfSense]–-----------[Brocade FastIron 648P]–--------------------[ProCurve]–---------------[PC1]
                                                                                                                                                |–---------[PC2]
                        PfSense is a core i5-3470 running at 3.2GHz with 4GB of RAM. My current version of PfSense is 2.3 Release 64bit. I have 10 Open VPN tunnels with not much traffic going across them at the moment, and my CPU usually is at 1% from what I can observe. At the time the test is being done the only traffic is YouTube from a Chromecast.

                        Test 1:
                        PC1 to PC2 on same subnet
                        Trial 1 took 41.01 Sec to transfer the test file which is indicated above which was calculated to be 873.17 Mbps.

                        Test 2:
                        PC1 to PC2 on Different subnets
                        Trial 1 took 45.28 Sec to transfer the test file which is indicated above which was calculated to be 790.83 Mbps.

                        These are the fastest times for each test. I ran 3 trails for each test to try to get a more accurate idea about how your network might perform. I have more data that I hope to publish later today.

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                          oddworld19
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                          Thanks. That's interesting. You're not maxing out either.

                          Supermicro SYS-5018A-FTN4 (Atom c2758)
                          pfSense 2.3.2

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                            mikeisfly
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                            I would say that I'm pretty close and if you look on trial 1 I'm not routing at all and I'm still not getting line rate. I'm pretty sure that has to do with the VLAN tags and also the overhead with TCP.

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                              Guest
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                              I would say that I'm pretty close and if you look on trial 1 I'm not routing at all and I'm still not getting line rate.

                              873 MBit/s + TCP overhead + VLAN TAG + QoS + all other running services that narrow down the
                              entire throughput of your pfSense appliance.

                              I'm pretty sure that has to do with the VLAN tags and also the overhead with TCP.

                              Each OpenVPN tunnel is taking one core from the CPU or SoC and all other packets are also "eating"
                              some CPU power as I know it. So what else packets and services you are running on that pfSense machine?

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                                mikeisfly
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                                Final Results:

                                Test 1 - No routing both machines on same subnet
                                                Time (Seconds) Speed (Mbps)
                                Pass 1 41.69                   858.9325603
                                Pass 2 80.43                   445.2181827
                                Pass 3 41.01                   873.1747973

                                Test 2 - PCs on different subnet PfSense doing the routing across vlans

                                Time (Seconds) Speed (Mbps)

                                Pass 1 45.28                   790.8325627
                                Pass 2 45.68                   783.907584
                                Pass 3 55.7                     642.8886614

                                Test 3 -  Cisco 2821 Router inserted and it is handling the routing between the two subnets

                                Time (Seconds) Speed (Mbps)
                                Pass 1 44.36                 807.2339594
                                Pass 2 44.12                 811.6250779
                                Pass 3 44.94                 796.8157196

                                Summary - What I did here is take out the high and low of all tests and then compared test 2 and test 3 against test 1 (which is switching performance)

                                Performance Hit
                                Test 2 8.73%
                                Test 3 6.02%

                                Summary :

                                Switching is faster than routing (duh!), but the Asics in the Cisco Router allow it to perform at nearly the same level as my PfSense Firewall with higher end hardware. From the results here we can see that the Cisco router has about 2% better routing performance which in my mind is well worth the trade-off of what PfSense gives me! I have done nothing in-terms of optimizations which could bring PfSense even closer to my Cisco Router, and like others have stated if I put a NIC with custom silicon the gap may get even closer. The purpose for this test was not to prove one platform is better than another, I always wanted to see something by way of charts with various hardware with some numbers for people to make some decisions for what is best for them.

                                Lastly , the CPU in my PfSense firewall went from 1-2% load to 10-13% when routing across vlans, which at first scared me because a couple of routing streams going across vlans could be a big hit, so I decided to add simultaneous transfers which did not bring the CPU above the 10% - 13% load (Nice!)

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