Watchguard XTM 5 Series
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Thanks chpalmer. I had previously looked through that but I can't find anything that will help me. As I say, I can't do anything after that final bit of output about the SSD. I can't type :(
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Ive never had any of the units Ive set up reject a cf card so Im at a loss here.
I have been using the Scandisk Ultra 4G cards if that helps.
All my units are on hard drives now as I think back. The one I run here at my main shop location was the first and just worked.
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Sorry I obviously didn't make myself clear. I am trying this on an SSD and haven't tried a card. I only have a 1 GB CF card that was with the XTM so would have to use an old version of PFS that would fit. I will take that as my next avenue of testing.
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Sorry I obviously didn't make myself clear. I am trying this on an SSD and haven't tried a card. I only have a 1 GB CF card that was with the XTM so would have to use an old version of PFS that would fit. I will take that as my next avenue of testing.
Sorry- read too fast and I should remember that. Ive read along since you've been trying…
Did you catch the bios settings for the SATA type drive in the article I linked. PATA first en such?
When you look at BIOS does the box see the drive? (You may have already answered and sorry if Im forgetful... busy here and going nuts. ;D )
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Hi All,
First, thank you for putting together this amazing resource - there is so much info here and so much talent its unbelievable.
OK, ego bribe out of the way, I have come into possession of an xtm 515 and been trying to get pfsense 2.3 on it for a couple days without much success.
Pre-reqs - i got a usb-serial cable which works to acccess the bios - 115200, putty defaults (8n1). I can also watch the default xtm os start up on it ok on the original 1gb transcend cf card (i know the watchguard OS pretty well)
I got a 4gb cf card - i can flash the original watchguard firmware onto this and boot it, so i know the cf card is good and bootableprocess i am following is - apply 4gb amd64 image to cf card, replace card in the 515. start up xtm 515.
First time i booted it, it started up pfsense without argument and i was able to do the port assignment, so i shut down the box to rack it and use it.
now, it POSTs and displays the bios splash then does nothing else - no further output from serial port after it completes detection of devices
I can replace the 4gb cf card with the original 1gb card and boot original watchguard os OK, and i have tried applying the original firmware to the 4gb card and this boots ok also - i have read there is a bug with the baud rate 9600 after first boot, but i have also read the firmware 2.3 defaults to baud 115200 and that is what i used to run the initial setup anyway.
Now, even if i re-flash the cf card with a clean pfsense 2.3 it simply wont boot - it just hangs after POST and BIOS screen (but WILL boot fireware OS just fine)
I even tried an older firmware so i could flash the watchguard default 1gb cf card with a 1gb pfsense image but that wont get past BIOS either.
I also tried:
pulling mobo battery
ram pull
booting with baud rate 9600 selected
starting serial/terminal connection after POST/bios screenI know I shouldn't need to flash the bios to run pfsense on an xtm 515, just the cf card, and in any case to flash the bios I'd need to get a working pfsense environment on it.
Any clues anyone? Has anyone had this issue before? Should I just give up and throw the thing in the trash?
All clues greatly appreciated :)
Iain
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Are you trying to start it with the console cable plugged in and console active? Try it both ways. with and without.
How long are you waiting? Ive noted my unit at times went a minute or two without doing anything.
Have a SATA drive you could try?
Dont throw it away! Someone will take it off your hands. ;D
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Interesting…
I had tried flashing the 1GB CF card and it still wouldn't boot (I was really pissed).
I came back to this thread and saw this message about trying to boot without serial connected. This works reliably (out of four boots)! If I wait until the three beeps are heard in close proximity and then connect the console all is fine. I will now try and do the same with the SSD and report back.
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I will try adding more patience and wait 5 mins before connecting…
Can't try the Sata port because I need to flash the bios to boot from it afaik? Or will it boot Sata if I remove the cf card? I've got enough Sata disks in the spare parts box... I'd kinda like to put an ssd and a ram upgrade in it anyway but I'm not spending any money on it unless I can get past step 1!
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chpalmer - you are bang on the money - add more patience!
Waited 5 minutes until i heard the magic three beeps and THEN connected to the console. Bingo.
I'd waited over 15 minutes before with the console connected and no response - it seems NOT connecting to the console until boot is completed is the secret (obviously, I couldn't wait to see the progress before…)
Think I might buy a nice big SATA disk, because more storage is always good...
Thanks guys! No need to trash a perfectly good (but traded up, so no sale...) 515.
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Were you able to do this=
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No… not yet. Requires flashing the bios, no?
Iain
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Anytime I try and press the key to enter the BIOS it just locks up (as I have now discovered because I have the terminal connected).
Can I connect a USB keyboard and press the keys on that instead and then connect to the terminal after a while to see the BIOS screens?
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Remember, its tab to enter the bios - ignore the directives given by the bios itself!!!
Just console on 115200 and start hitting tab as soon as boot starts - read only though, so this is just to prove it works…
My recipe is:
flash disk with image, replace cf card
remove console cable - power on.
open a beer and start drinking - half way through you will heard the three beeps indicating pfsense has booted
NOW connect the console cable and putty in.XTM 5 seems to be like schroedingers firewall - observing the console at boot confuses it...
NOW to try out a Watchguard M500... i am in the very lucky position to have one with a fscked soft power switch that i warrantied, and watchguard never asked for the original back... i think that will be a 50c component replacement...
Will open a new thread with results if i get any luck with an m500 (about $8000 to on a trade in at the moment, so probably hasnt appeared here yet...)
Iain
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I really do recommend that you guys do the bios flash as soon as your able or willing. Its scary because if it crashes then…
But It seems to make things boot better.
But then again as long as you never have to reboot....... ;D
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For all you guys who have upgraded your processors:
Is it necessary to flash the bios first, or can it be done without, and does the unit change clock speed etc. automatic?
Have you used openvpn, and have you noticed increase in throughput and if so, what is your throughput.
I'd like to saturate a 100 mbit line, preferable with 256 bit
Right now my box with the standard celeron 440 passes 50 mbit (which is mi line's max speed) at 128 bit encryption, but it completely stalls it, fail to write rrd graphs, and becomes unresponsive. The cpu usage is 100 % or near 100 %.Does the unit accept any AES-NI capable processor?
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Thanks in advance
/cortex -
For all you guys who have upgraded your processors:
Is it necessary to flash the bios first, or can it be done without, and does the unit change clock speed etc. automatic?
Have you used openvpn, and have you noticed increase in throughput and if so, what is your throughput.
I'd like to saturate a 100 mbit line, preferable with 256 bit
Right now my box with the standard celeron 440 passes 50 mbit (which is mi line's max speed) at 128 bit encryption, but it completely stalls it, fail to write rrd graphs, and becomes unresponsive. The cpu usage is 100 % or near 100 %.Does the unit accept any AES-NI capable processor?
[edit: added 3rd question]
Thanks in advance
/cortex1. You do not have to flash the bios to change out the cpu. At least I didn't, but I ended up doing so later on.
2. I do run openvpn however it is as a client not a host so not sure if it's what you're looking for however I haven't speed tested it yet. Somehow that part slipped my mind.
3. I do not believe the xtm5 series can handle a aes-ni processor. My understanding those started at the i5/7 series processors where as this supports c2d/q processors from the generation before.
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1. You do not have to flash the bios to change out the cpu. At least I didn't, but I ended up doing so later on.
2. I do run openvpn however it is as a client not a host so not sure if it's what you're looking for however I haven't speed tested it yet. Somehow that part slipped my mind.
3. I do not believe the xtm5 series can handle a aes-ni processor. My understanding those started at the i5/7 series processors where as this supports c2d/q processors from the generation before.
It is running as a client, and I would like to be able to use OpenVPN at even higher speeds than 50 mbit (around 90-100 mbit).
What processor did you slip in your unit?
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It is running as a client, and I would like to be able to use OpenVPN at even higher speeds than 50 mbit (around 90-100 mbit).
What processor did you slip in your unit?
I'm running a q9550s as its a low power model. I've seen some run full power models but the xtm isn't as fully spec'd as the original Lanner appliance so I didn't want to risk it burning itself up. Plus in all honesty I'm probably overkill as it is as I'm still trying to learn myself.
When I get home I will try to remember to run a speed test. Any preference on what exactly you want measured?
Edit: I did run a speed test however my line is capped at 50Mb down and it hits it just fine. Sorry I can't tell you my actual max.
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I'm running some vpn clients with 128 encryption algorithm (BF-CBC) and SHA1 160 bit.
The router is fine delivering throughput at 50 mbit with low cpu usage, except (of course) when it is tunnelling all the data through the vpn. If I limit it to 45 mbit the interface stays fine, but at 49 mbit (limited) it starts to hang.
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Anyone know if the E8400 xeon will work.
It seem like it isn't drawing more power than the supply is rated?
