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Making PFSENSE as DNS for Active Directory

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    edanpedragosa
    last edited by Feb 5, 2015, 6:51 AM

    It may be different in your scenario but I always notice that when I point my client to the AD for DNS, when the internet goes down, some of the clients need to flush their dns to reconnect to some sites.  The AD is forwarding the request to the PFSENSE gateway fine after flushing the DNS.

    Here's what's happening in my case before:

    CLIENT –->  AD ---> PFSENSE GATEWAY

    if for some reasons the internet gets cut in the PFSENSE GATEWAY, the CLIENT needs to flush the DNS to resolve again properly.

    My setting now is:

    CLIENT ---> PFSENSE

    \  |
                        AD

    and is now working fine as expected.

    Sorry if it causes some confusion for some but this works for me.

    Just sharing...

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by Feb 5, 2015, 12:42 PM

      Well what are the ttls on the stuff that not requesting?  What is in your clients cache?  What is our neg cache setting? By default 300 seconds I do believe..  Do you understand what a neg cache is?

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        eNORm
        last edited by Aug 14, 2015, 3:27 PM

        Hi,

        I've been running this setup for a month now. It worked nicely, but when I needed to join a computer to the domain it would not work. I had to manualy change the dns-server on the computer that I wanted to join to point to AD-DNS. Did not help that AD-DNS was the secondary DNS-server that the pfsens dhcp-server gave out.

        Is there something missing form the advance settings in pfsense unbound dns resolver?

        
        server:
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.pdc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.gc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 3268 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.gc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 3268 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.f8f5a2da-93c9-414a-9347-426c5b294d2f.domains._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "177ea4ed-fe67-4a10-bd07-b021feeae604._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN CNAME elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kerberos._tcp.dc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 88 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kerberos._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.dc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 88 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.dc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kerberos._tcp.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 88 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kerberos._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 88 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_gc._tcp.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 3268 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_gc._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 3268 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kerberos._udp.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 88 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kpasswd._tcp.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 464 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_kpasswd._udp.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 464 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.DomainDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.DomainDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.ForestDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "_ldap._tcp.Default-First-Site-Name._sites.ForestDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN SRV 0 100 389 elektron.oslo.expology.no."
        local-data: "oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.1"
        local-data: "oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.2"
        local-data: "DomainDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.1"
        local-data: "DomainDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.2"
        local-data: "ForestDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.1"
        local-data: "ForestDnsZones.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.2"
        local-data: "gc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.1"
        local-data: "gc._msdcs.oslo.expology.no. 600 IN A 192.168.123.2"
        
        

        -eNORm-

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by Aug 14, 2015, 3:47 PM

          Why would you do this???  Point your clients to your AD server!!  If you want to use something other than MS AD for your dns - then use something like bind.  Unbound is not really meant to be a authoritative server for any domain.  Nor does it do any sort of zone transfers, etc.. etc..

          It is not the correct choice to run active directory dns..

          "Unbound is a validating, recursive, and caching DNS resolver"

          Do you see authoritative listed there??

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            jahonix
            last edited by Aug 14, 2015, 4:12 PM

            People first have to fully understand the adjectives you listed before putting them into use. That's probably what most users lack.
            I heard rumors that it's more than resolving a host name to an IP address.  :o

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              gjaltemba
              last edited by Aug 14, 2015, 8:32 PM

              I would like to give this a try but my setup uses AD DHCP to register the leases into AD-DNS.

              In this scenario, how does the AD-DNS get populated?

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by Aug 15, 2015, 2:18 AM

                it DOESN'T there is NO POINT to this at ALL - NONE!!  You have a freaking AD running with DC.. Run DNS on it - point your members to it..  There is ZERO benefit to trying to do with with a non authoritative caching resolver like unbound..

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                  coachmark2
                  last edited by Aug 24, 2015, 3:34 PM

                  Agreed. Let AD do DNS. Seriously. There is no reason to have anything else doing DNS for your domain. AD relies HEAVILY on DNS to the point where it ceases to function without it. Adding computers to your domain, anything using netdom, any MMCs you use to manage things, and heck, even basic logons for your users! If you want to do this, you're introducing complexity where there is no reason.

                  The argument is slightly different for AD DHCP. That does integrate nicely with DDNS, but DDNS is not some special secret wizardry that only Microsoft can do.

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                    jahonix
                    last edited by Aug 25, 2015, 12:09 AM

                    You're a bit late for the party but thanks for your contribution.

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                      plaj
                      last edited by May 13, 2016, 8:58 AM

                      Great hackersoft !
                      You made my day.
                      I was googleing for a while for a way to authenticate AD sessions over an IPsec VPN with NAT-T, on a site without an AD DC.
                      Added the DNS lines in the Unbound DNS Resolver Advanced options as you described, and a Host Override for each of my DCs on their NATed IP address and it finally works !
                      My computers can now authenticate on a DC controller on the other side of my Ipsec tunnel…
                      Also tried to add a new computer to the domain, and it's working too.

                      Perhaps there's another way to perform that... but this way works great for me.
                      Why am I not fallen on it earlier ? :)
                      Many thanks for this sharing !

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