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    Major issue with QUAGGA-OSPF and VLANs (pfsense 2.3.0)

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    • H
      heper
      last edited by

      could you post the quagga status output for all 3 situations (all online/ lan1 offline / lan2 offline) 
      best to highlight the related routes & leave out sensitive information

      the more relevant info, the more likely the package maintainer might be able to track down the issue, or find a workaround

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        shaoranrch
        last edited by

        Hi,

        Uppon taking a closer examination I did noticed that Quagga indeed removes the adjacency and the OSPF table is at it should, but, for some reason, the routes learnt via OSPF and via VLAN 100 neighbor are being treated as kernel routes (just like you speculated, see picture below), thus the router is using them, what could be causing this? so far:

        • There aren't any static routes

        • The routes being treated as kernel routes were all learn via OSPF (and are a lot of routes)

        • Quagga is working as intended, the adjacency is being removed and the topology updated (as well as the routes), I didn't notice this the first time but it's happening like it should

        • Even though the routes were learnt from OSPF and the adjacency with the neighbor selected as next-hop is offline, the routes are kept in the FIB as kernel routes…

        The only gateway-group involves the WANs, other than that, the LAN group is in "allow anything" mode.

        Here's the routing table:

        All those kernel routes are kept always the same, doesn't matter if R1 or R2 is offline (OSPF routes and LSA table on the other hand are updated as they should), I really don't get what's happening here.

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          heper
          last edited by

          i started looking at this more closely.

          i'm facing the same/similar issue on a multilink-openvpn-site2site  (192.168.99.1 & 192.168.88.1)
          while both vpn are online:

          
          O   10.0.0.0/24 [110/120] via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1, 00:07:54
          K>* 10.0.0.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.10.10.0/24 [110/110] via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1, 00:07:54
          K>* 10.10.10.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.10.44.0/24 [110/110] via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1, 00:07:54
          K>* 10.10.44.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.10.100.0/24 [110/110] via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1, 00:07:54
          K>* 10.10.100.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.20.10.0/24 [110/10] is directly connected, em2_vlan10, 00:12:26
          C>* 10.20.10.0/24 is directly connected, em2_vlan10
          O   10.20.100.0/24 [110/10] is directly connected, em2, 00:12:27
          C>* 10.20.100.0/24 is directly connected, em2
          O   10.30.10.0/24 [110/1010] via 192.168.223.2, ovpns3, 00:12:21
          K>* 10.30.10.0/24 via 192.168.223.2, ovpns3
          C>* 127.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, lo0
          
          

          While one vpn is down:

          
          O   10.0.0.0/24 [110/520] via 192.168.88.1, ovpnc4, 00:00:05
          K>* 10.0.0.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.10.10.0/24 [110/510] via 192.168.88.1, ovpnc4, 00:00:05
          K>* 10.10.10.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.10.44.0/24 [110/510] via 192.168.88.1, ovpnc4, 00:00:05
          K>* 10.10.44.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.10.100.0/24 [110/510] via 192.168.88.1, ovpnc4, 00:00:05
          K>* 10.10.100.0/24 via 192.168.99.1, ovpnc1
          O   10.20.10.0/24 [110/10] is directly connected, em2_vlan10, 00:29:30
          C>* 10.20.10.0/24 is directly connected, em2_vlan10
          O   10.20.100.0/24 [110/10] is directly connected, em2, 00:29:31
          C>* 10.20.100.0/24 is directly connected, em2
          O   10.30.10.0/24 [110/1010] via 192.168.223.2, ovpns3, 00:29:25
          K>* 10.30.10.0/24 via 192.168.223.2, ovpns3
          C>* 127.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, lo0
          
          

          quagga is showing/USING selected kernel routes while there are no static routes set for subnets 10.0.0.0/24 | 10.10.10.0/24 | 10.10.44.0/24
          When I take down the link, quagga changes its Ospf-route correctly / but the "old" kernel route stays in place & remains selected. This causes the routing to fail

          Not sure if this is a quagga issue or a freebsd issue.
          Might be related to:
          https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=110245.0

          Hopefully @jimp will pick up this post / afaik he's one of the few people who might know the root cause of this.
          In the mean time i created a bugreport here: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/6305

          as requested adding config files:
          ospfd_client_side

          
          # This file was created by the pfSense package manager.  Do not edit!
          
          password ******
          interface ovpnc4
            ip ospf cost 500
          interface ovpnc1
            ip ospf cost 100
          interface ovpns3
            ip ospf cost 1000
          
          router ospf
            ospf router-id 10.20.10.1
            network 192.168.88.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.99.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.223.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.77.0/26 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.99.2/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.223.1/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.88.2/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.100.1/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.226.1/28 area 0.0.0.1
            network 10.20.10.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.2.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 10.20.100.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 172.20.20.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.66.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
          
          

          zebra_client_side

          
          # This file was created by the pfSense package manager.  Do not edit!
          
          password ******
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.77.0/26
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.99.2/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.223.1/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.88.2/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.100.1/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.226.1/28
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER permit any
          route-map ACCEPTFILTER permit 10
          match ip address prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER
          ip protocol ospf route-map ACCEPTFILTER
          
          

          ospf_server_side

          
          # This file was created by the pfSense package manager.  Do not edit!
          
          password ********
          interface ovpns7
            ip ospf cost 500
          interface ovpns2
            ip ospf cost 1000
          interface ovpns5
          interface ovpns1
            ip ospf cost 1000
            ip ospf authentication-key *******
          
          router ospf
            ospf router-id 10.10.10.1
            network 192.168.88.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.99.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.222.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.224.0/30 area 0.0.0.1
            area 0.0.0.0 authentication
            network 192.168.88.1/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.99.1/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.222.1/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.224.1/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.100.2/32 area 0.0.0.1
            network 10.10.10.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 10.10.100.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.77.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 192.168.1.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
            network 10.10.44.0/24 area 0.0.0.1
          
          

          zebra_server_side

          
          # This file was created by the pfSense package manager.  Do not edit!
          
          password ******
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.88.1/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.99.1/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.222.1/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.224.1/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER deny 192.168.100.2/32
          ip prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER permit any
          route-map ACCEPTFILTER permit 10
          match ip address prefix-list ACCEPTFILTER
          ip protocol ospf route-map ACCEPTFILTER
          
          
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            shaoranrch
            last edited by

            Hi,

            I see, incredible at least it's not an isolated issue. Hopefully they'll check this and give us a solution.

            Thanks.

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              kennylam
              last edited by

              Same problem applies on my pair of pfSense 2.3 too….. the cost of path was properly calculated, but the kernel route just occupied the highest prioity.

              Take my case as example:

              O  192.168.101.0/24 [110/15] via 172.16.53.254, em1_vlan999, 00:00:12
              K>* 192.168.101.0/24 via 192.168.168.1, em5

              While em1_vlan999 is a direct link with lower cost (5) and em5 is a remote site with is in higher cost (200), em5 was selected still. The cost settings on all site are equal.

              My setup relied on OpenVPN too, and worked fine on pfSense 2.2.3-2.2.6, until I upgraded all routers to pfSense 2.3.

              pfSense 2.3_1 with Quagga_OSPF 0.6.13

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                shaoranrch
                last edited by

                I believe this is a major issue and should be given top priority, we're talking about routing and deployments where redundancy is a must, this is just unacceptable. Maybe the devs could tell us when can we expect this to be solved.

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                  heper
                  last edited by

                  while this is a major issue for you, me & probably a some others / the chances are, that more urgent matters exist.
                  If you can provide more detailed debugging info, it will help finding the root cause & will help getting a solution faster.

                  i'm just a user of ospf & don't have the knowledge to find out why it is behaving like it is. afaik there has been little changes to the pfSense-package (except the conversion of the GUI)

                  –--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  I've just tried going back to an earlier version of quagga on a test system. it appears to solve the 'kernel-route' issue …. but my test setup is too limited to fully test this. If i have spare time next week i'll run some further tests
                  if your test environment is better (or wish to risk this on a production environment), run below from shell :
                  for 32bit:

                  
                  pkg add -f http://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:x86:32/release_3/All/quagga-0.99.24.1_2.txz
                  
                  

                  for 64bit:

                  
                  pkg add -f  http://pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/release_3/All/quagga-0.99.24.1_2.txz
                  
                  

                  USE WITH CAUTION / THIS MAY HAVE UNWANTED CONSEQUENCES

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                    heper
                    last edited by

                    just tried it on one of my production systems. downgrading seems to have solved the routing issues i had with the dual-openvpn failover.
                    i'll update the redmine accordingly.

                    If @shaoranrch & @kennylam could confirm that downgrading helps, then we are getting somewhere  :)

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                      kennylam
                      last edited by

                      That worked for me too. OSPF routes on VLAN/OpenVPN are now selected as primary route ,as the costs defined.

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                        reqlez
                        last edited by

                        Great … I have the same issue, of course after beating my head against the wall for 2 hours i find this post. K and O routes of same interface showing up, the K obviously doesn't get updated and my traffic doesn't failover.

                        I dont have any VLANs ... maybe rename the topic to "Major issue with QUAGGA-OSPF"

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                          heper
                          last edited by

                          Dus reverting ti older version work first you?

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                            reqlez
                            last edited by

                            By the way I confirmed that installing an older version as per above instructions fixed the problem.

                            What i still hate is that when the VPN connection gets reconnected ( even one with lower priority ) , the OSPF package gets restarted and the routing table gets cleared and stuff and drops traffic for a few seconds. This is an old limitation that has not been fixed still :(

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                              reqlez
                              last edited by

                              I also found something else different on the version of the OSPF that works ( downgraded ).

                              router ospf
                                ospf router-id 192.168.2.254
                                passive-interface re1
                                network 192.168.2.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.101.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.102.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.103.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.104.0/24 area 0.0.0.0

                              on the version that works, there is only ONE entry per subnet here … on the NEW version that doesn't work, there are 2 entries per subnet ... so it looks like this :

                              router ospf
                                ospf router-id 192.168.2.254
                                passive-interface re1
                                network 192.168.2.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.101.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.102.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.103.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.101.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.104.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.102.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.103.0/24 area 0.0.0.0
                                network 192.168.104.0/24 area 0.0.0.0

                              ( NOT EXACT but you get the idea, two entries per subnet under the ospfd.conf )

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                                r.vanmoerkerk
                                last edited by

                                Hi All,

                                First of all, thanks for this post. We had a lot of major issues in the network after 2.3 update of pfsense. By this post we could fix the issue and found what happend after a lot of hours troubleshooting.

                                Found a bug notice about this already one month old: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/6305 and created a new one on our own name with our support subscription. Wil post an update if we get one.

                                Downgrading the package fixed the issue for us.

                                Also we cannot redistribute the default 0.0.0.0/0 using zebra.conf to our lan. We also have a support out for that question to hopfully get a fix or update.

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                                  heper
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks. Ive bumped the redmine ticket Yesterday.

                                  Hopefully it'll get fixed soon

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                                    miguelgoncalves
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi!

                                    I am also seeing this behaviour… Asked about it here: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=112698.0

                                    Attached are configuration files. These were created manually because I had to include some commands to stop Quagga inserting routes to the OpenVPN addresses into the kernel. It worked before. A recent upgrade stopped the failover from working.

                                    I really hope this is solved quickly.

                                    Cheers,
                                    Miguel

                                    dc_ospfd.txt
                                    dc_zebra.txt
                                    hq_ospfd.txt
                                    hq_zebra.txt

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                                      r.vanmoerkerk
                                      last edited by

                                      No luck with support, they don't give any feedback or recognizes the issue. The test mentioned in the redmine is not a fair test. The bug has the effect that it advertises the whole network to itself so other bgp/ ospf instances in our netwerk are overwriten with this new data and locations are not reachable. It has nothing to do with wan failover in our case.

                                      It could be that the extra kernel routes are the issue but if that is the case then try to fix this. All was doing well in previous configs and after upgrade this issue happend. After reversing quagga packages it is fixed so don't blame me for thinking that it is related to the quagga package.

                                      How can we get some more action on this from the pfsense side? It is with issues like this that our management is not having faith in the solution, we have support but no response about this issue, not our package. It is part of the pfsense firewall suite product.

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                                        heper
                                        last edited by

                                        i think it would be ideal if one of the coredevs reverts the pfsense package to quagga 0.99.x.x for now.  (there wasn't anything wrong with it)

                                        then the coredevs have more time to find a way to replicate the issue & report it upstream.

                                        I believe this issue might affect a lot of quagga-users, but not all of them have noticed it…. in some cases you only notice it when an interface goes down.

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                                          echu2016
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello All!!!
                                          I´ve been with this annoying bug like three long long days!!
                                          While I realized that wasn´t only me, i quickly solved by reverting the package to an older version as proposed previously in this thread (thanks!)

                                          For me is quite easy to reproduce it.
                                          Let´s start by assuming we have a running and configured instance on an pfSense box.
                                          Our daemon now learns a brand new route, for instance 10.1.1.0/24.
                                          Example output:

                                          Quagga Zebra Routes:

                                          Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP,
                                                O - OSPF, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, P - PIM, A - Babel,
                                                > - selected route, * - FIB route

                                          O>* 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.123.13, em5, 00:00:31

                                          We now have a next hop change (because of a link down situation).

                                          That line would now be seen (in my case) like this:

                                          O>* 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.19.25, em5, 00:00:02

                                          (sorry for the upercase)
                                          UP TO HERE OK!!!!

                                          BUT, let´s go back to the original route:

                                          O>* 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.123.13, em5, 00:00:31

                                          IF, in this step for any reason zebra is reloaded or restarted from now on we will see  like this:

                                          O> 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.123.13, em5, 00:00:31
                                          K>* 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.123.13, em5, 00:00:31

                                          What happens in a failover scenario? Well… This:

                                          O> 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.19.25, em5, 00:01:20
                                          K> 10.1.1.0/24 [110/12] via 192.168.123.13, em5, 00:00:05*

                                          Red line shows the problem!!! Kernel route is wrong!!
                                          As far as i read, there is a daemon option line "–keep-kernel" That says zebra to preserve previous learned routes before actually booting up.

                                          If my explanation seems ok, then there is only one simple way to reproduce it:

                                          1- Make OSPF learn a new route.
                                          2- Go to services and restart both :Quagga OSPFd and Quagga Zebra daemons.
                                          3- Try to alter the paths and see that the line beggining with K won´t change any more!!!

                                          Hope I helped!

                                          Thanks!!!

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                                            georgeman
                                            last edited by

                                            Bump!!

                                            Any updates on this? Unfortunately I don't have an appropiate lab to test what echu2016 posted above, and my production systems are currently running the previous version of the Quagga package as suggested.
                                            But what he posted makes perfect sense, and should be pretty simple to reproduce and track.

                                            If it ain't broke, you haven't tampered enough with it

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