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    PfSense 2.3 new Traffic Graph doesn't include total Traffic in time period

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      BabaBooey
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      @N8LBV:

      Please bring it back! 
      Was VERY useful and now completely gone.

      It was a very commonly replied upon report.
      Companies want to and expect to be able to look at traffic history and see how it has changed over days, weeks, months,  busy events etc. 
      It was the main selling point for a client I am working with now and we actually had to roll back to 2.2 for this reason.

      I really don't understand the mentality behind decisions to drop a feature like this that is so commonly used and demanded on gateway reports.

      Steve

      +1

      Why was it removed? I don't understand  :o

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        cmb
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        Because it's a function of rrdtool graph, which has absurdly large dependencies in latest rrdtool. jdillard's working on a replacement with vnstat.

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          BabaBooey
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          @cmb:

          Because it's a function of rrdtool graph, which has absurdly large dependencies in latest rrdtool. jdillard's working on a replacement with vnstat.

          That's good to hear  :D
          Just ordered a SG-4860 btw, looking forward to getting rid of my current power hungry and large computer for this beauty  ;D

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            loudgas
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            Any chance update 2.3_1 includes the restoration of our beloved feature?

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              tgharold
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              @cmb:

              Because it's a function of rrdtool graph, which has absurdly large dependencies in latest rrdtool. jdillard's working on a replacement with vnstat.

              Except that vnstat was also dropped in v2.3.

              The RRD Graphs were useful for a bunch of reasons:

              • Traffic per day / month / week / year
              • Being able to look and see how busy a link was without sitting on Status / Traffic Graph (which does not show history)
              • NNTP graphs showing jitter / offset

              I'm not pleased at all that RRD Graphs were dropped in 2.3.

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                drzoidberg33
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                While I appreciate the new design aspects, the old RRD graphs were a lot easier to access and read.

                Hope someone will create a package for legacy graphs.

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                  melik2k3
                  last edited by

                  new monitoring feature is useless for me
                  plz bring back rrd graph or give any alternative for traffic summary
                  so disapointed after upgrading to 2.3  :'(

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                    BabaBooey
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                    @drzoidberg33:

                    While I appreciate the new design aspects, the old RRD graphs were a lot easier to access and read.

                    Hope someone will create a package for legacy graphs.

                    I agree, the new graphs are a bit clunky. They are nicer looking and probably have a lot of potential, but I prefer the old graphs, they were easier to use, for me at least. It may be because I'm used to the old RRD graphs though.
                    But the lack of total traffic info is quite annoying. That is the most important information for me.

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                      JasonJoel
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                      They are aware everyone wants total tgraffic stats back, and have said they are working on it.

                      What I tell those I support, is to pretend 2.3 is actually 3.0 and a full re-write.

                      Thus, it will take time to get all of the features back in, so don't install until at least the first sp/point release. :) Because no one would install a ".0" release….

                      That is really my only criticism of this process, many (maybe most) people assume that a .X release should be OK to install and won't completely change/break everything. In this case that was a wrong assumption.

                      The level of change would have been more clear if it would have been 3.0 instead of 2.3...

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                        zeno78200
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                        I want to also add my few cents on this topic.
                        I am also quite disappointed of not having anymore the possibility to check how much traffic was flowing during a specific period of time.
                        New graphs are nice, but they are definitely not comparable with RRD.

                        I hope that an alternative will be provided soon. I mean, this is something that you can find even of extremely cheap devices for home use. In offices is a huge loss to not have these info anymore  :-X

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                          blewis
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                          Like all of you, I'm also desperately hoping for daily total traffic over a period of time as well.  I have Uverse and even they have a usage meter, which is of questionable accuracy according to: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30773881-Usage-meter-is-now-live

                          jdillard is suppose to bringing out an updated vnstat package for this function, hopefully in the v2.3.2 release.

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                            ortizdr
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                            @blewis:

                            Like all of you, I'm also desperately hoping for daily total traffic over a period of time as well.  I have Uverse and even they have a usage meter, which is of questionable accuracy according to: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30773881-Usage-meter-is-now-live

                            jdillard is suppose to bringing out an updated vnstat package for this function, hopefully in the v2.3.2 release.

                            I am in the same boat. The rrd graph was great! Just updated to 2.3, it looks great!!!

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                              jdillard
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                              Here is a preview (from a test VM so the traffic is not normal looking): https://i.imgur.com/GqvihFX.gifv

                              All I should have left is getting the options in and out of the configuration. This is my first time doing that, so not sure how long that is going to take.

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                                BabaBooey
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                                Thanks, nice work, looking forward to the update  ;D

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                                  Vidmo
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                                  Looks good. Is this meant to replace VNStat or the RRD graph functionality? Just trying to get an idea or where the requirements are coming from.

                                  Vidmo

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                                    jdillard
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                                    It is vnStat, I just put a fancy front-end on it (using it's JSON output) and allow you to set it up without going to the CLI. It is basically a better version of the old vnstat2 package.

                                    It doesn't replace RRD, it just complements it in regards to bandwidth/traffic totals as a lot of people liked that functionality. It also stores the data in a way that is more accurate than RRD for historical data.

                                    The old RRD graphs had a totaling function in the graphing utility, but we cut the graphing utility out because it was going to double the total size of the pfSense image. Not everyone needs traffic totals though, so it is being left as an optional package instead of as part of base. I just felt traffic totals were a basic functionality that should be in pfSense and this was the path of least resistance. I also wanted to learn how to make a package so that I could be more useful in that regard in the future.

                                    Another thing that was lost when we cut out the rrdtool graphing was emailed reports with images. I'm not going to do it, but someone could in theory add vnStat images into the reporting package with vnstati.

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                                      richtj99
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                                      Hi,

                                      Just curious if there has been any progress made on it.  The gif looks perfect!

                                      Thanks,
                                      Rich

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                                        ortizdr
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                                        @richtj99:

                                        Hi,

                                        Just curious if there has been any progress made on it.  The gif looks perfect!

                                        Thanks,
                                        Rich

                                        I second this!!

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                                          Liath.WW
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                                          Not quite as nice as having all those graphs presentable as they were with RRD, but a damned sight better than what is here now.

                                          Heck if RRD is still even possible I'd prefer that as a downloadable package, unless this new tool can 1-up the old tools.  RRD wasn't always very accurate, especially with older data.  But at least is was something I could pull up and argue with the ISP when they pull some of the crazy stunts they do.

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                                            jdillard
                                            last edited by

                                            @richtj99:

                                            Hi,

                                            Just curious if there has been any progress made on it.  The gif looks perfect!

                                            Thanks,
                                            Rich

                                            It's closer: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=109700.msg634458#msg634458

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