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      Paint
      last edited by

      Machine is built and pfSense is installed!

      What performance tests would you like me to run (please provide the commands so I run the correct test)?

      Thanks!

      pfSense i5-4590
      940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
      BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
      Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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        mauroman33
        last edited by

        Hi Paint,

        could you please run the simple OpenVPN benchmark referenced here:
        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=105238.msg616743#msg616743 (Reply #9 message)

        Executing the command on my router with a Celeron N3150 I get
        27.41 real        25.62 user        1.77 sys

        (3200 / 27.41) = 117 Mbps OpenVPN performance (estimate)

        This value perfectly fits to the result of a real speed test.

        I recently got an upgrade to 250/100 connection and I'm considering buying a mini PC as your own if it were able to sustain this speed through the OpenVPN connection.

        Thanks!

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          Guest
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          I would like to know the routing power and speed between two VLANs, if you get it working.
          And on top a new speed test as you where showing it in your signature.

          Also a IPSec test would be fine to see but mostly it will not really running pending on the
          circumstance that two VPN endpoints must be there.

          If you want to do some tuning for your pfSense box you could try out this ones;
          Processor Main Frequency: 1.8GHz(Tubo 3.0GHz)
          Processor Model:Intel I7 4500U

          • Please enable PowerD (hi adaptive)
            this will scale the CPU frequency from the lowest bottom to the highest top likes needed by the system and
            pending of the entire network load of your network or pfSense firewall.

          Hard Drive: Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive

          • If this drive is supporting TRIM, enable also the TRIM support on the pfSense box
            If this mSATA will be supporting TRIM it should be a deal for you to activate the TRIM support
            of the pfSense system too

          RAM:  8GB 1600MHz DDR3L PC3-12800 ECC CL11 1.35V SODIMM

          • Please set the mbuf size to 1000000
            You will be able to realize it and not ending up in a booting loop, if you are owing
            sufficient amount of RAM and your 8 GB will be ideal for that tuning.

          And at last please create a /boot/loader.conf.local file if that wasn´t done right now and enter
          the line with the "mbuf size" there that this will suvive all updates/upgrades of your pfSense
          system from version to version, because all files will be written totally new!

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            Paint
            last edited by

            @mauroman33:

            Hi Paint,

            could you please run the simple OpenVPN benchmark referenced here:
            https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=105238.msg616743#msg616743 (Reply #9 message)

            Executing the command on my router with a Celeron N3150 I get
            27.41 real        25.62 user        1.77 sys

            (3200 / 27.41) = 117 Mbps OpenVPN performance (estimate)

            This value perfectly fits to the result of a real speed test.

            I recently got an upgrade to 250/100 connection and I'm considering buying a mini PC as your own if it were able to sustain this speed through the OpenVPN connection.

            Thanks!

            Here is the output:

            [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: openvpn --genkey --secret /tmp/secret
            [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc
            10.682u 0.677s 0:11.36 99.9%    742+177k 0+0io 1pf+0w
            [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root:
            

            (3200 / 11.36) = 281.7 Mbps OpenVPN performance (estimate)

            pfSense i5-4590
            940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
            BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
            Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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              Paint
              last edited by

              @BlueKobold:

              I would like to know the routing power and speed between two VLANs, if you get it working.
              And on top a new speed test as you where showing it in your signature.

              Also a IPSec test would be fine to see but mostly it will not really running pending on the
              circumstance that two VPN endpoints must be there.

              If you want to do some tuning for your pfSense box you could try out this ones;
              Processor Main Frequency: 1.8GHz(Tubo 3.0GHz)
              Processor Model:Intel I7 4500U

              • Please enable PowerD (hi adaptive)
                this will scale the CPU frequency from the lowest bottom to the highest top likes needed by the system and
                pending of the entire network load of your network or pfSense firewall.

              Hard Drive: Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive

              • If this drive is supporting TRIM, enable also the TRIM support on the pfSense box
                If this mSATA will be supporting TRIM it should be a deal for you to activate the TRIM support
                of the pfSense system too

              RAM:  8GB 1600MHz DDR3L PC3-12800 ECC CL11 1.35V SODIMM

              • Please set the mbuf size to 1000000
                You will be able to realize it and not ending up in a booting loop, if you are owing
                sufficient amount of RAM and your 8 GB will be ideal for that tuning.

              And at last please create a /boot/loader.conf.local file if that wasn´t done right now and enter
              the line with the "mbuf size" there that this will suvive all updates/upgrades of your pfSense
              system from version to version, because all files will be written totally new!

              Got this mostly up and working today. I am going to do some additional tweaks before I release any speed tests, but I can report that my WAN speeds are about he same (I'm capped at 100/100mbits anyway).

              I tried to enable TRIM via this post: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=83272.msg456248#msg456248

              Unfortunately, after adding ahci_load to my loader.conf.local and running touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot I still do not have TRIM (I dont think its a big deal though)

              [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: tunefs -p /
              tunefs: POSIX.1e ACLs: (-a)                                disabled
              tunefs: NFSv4 ACLs: (-N)                                   disabled
              tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l)                               disabled
              tunefs: soft updates: (-n)                                 enabled
              tunefs: soft update journaling: (-j)                       enabled
              tunefs: gjournal: (-J)                                     disabled
              tunefs: trim: (-t)                                         disabled
              tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e)  4096
              tunefs: average file size: (-f)                            16384
              tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s)       64
              tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m)             8%
              tunefs: space to hold for metadata blocks: (-k)            6408
              tunefs: optimization preference: (-o)                      time
              tunefs: volume label: (-L)
              
              

              Here is a copy of my /boot/loader.conf.local:

              ahci_load="YES"
              kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
              legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1
              legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1
              

              pfSense i5-4590
              940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
              BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
              Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                mauroman33
                last edited by

                @Paint:

                Here is the output:

                [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: openvpn --genkey --secret /tmp/secret
                [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc
                10.682u 0.677s 0:11.36 99.9%    742+177k 0+0io 1pf+0w
                [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root:
                

                (3200 / 11.36) = 281.7 Mbps OpenVPN performance (estimate)

                Thanks mate!
                Now I know that I have to find my way in this cpu's class

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                  ddarlington36
                  last edited by

                  What's the CPU usage like during the tests?  Is that test anything like iperf or dose it simulate the openvpn throughput/bandwidth.  Pretty impressive results !! I'm sold

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                    Guest
                    last edited by

                    Got this mostly up and working today. I am going to do some additional tweaks before I release any speed tests, but I can report that my WAN speeds are about he same (I'm capped at 100/100mbits anyway).

                    With disabled PowerD (hi adaptive) it could be that the CPU frequency is not scaling from low to high likes it
                    is needed by the load, and so any kind of many tests could be not really right then! Please don´t forget this
                    and think about.

                    I tried to enable TRIM via this post: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=83272.msg456248#msg456248

                    Unfortunately, after adding ahci_load to my loader.conf.local and running touch /root/TRIM_set; /etc/rc.reboot I still do not have TRIM (I dont think its a big deal though)

                    Please use this procedure shown in that thread/post exactly! It is right matching and well working!
                    Enable TRIM Support in pfSense

                    ahci_load="YES"
                    kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
                    legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1
                    legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1
                    

                    This might be right looking to me. If you are doing tests now, you could not be running out of kernel
                    space or mbuf size!

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                      Paint
                      last edited by

                      @mauroman33:

                      @Paint:

                      Here is the output:

                      [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: openvpn --genkey --secret /tmp/secret
                      [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc
                      10.682u 0.677s 0:11.36 99.9%    742+177k 0+0io 1pf+0w
                      [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root:
                      

                      (3200 / 11.36) = 281.7 Mbps OpenVPN performance (estimate)

                      Thanks mate!
                      Now I know that I have to find my way in this cpu's class

                      anytime! Loving this MiniPC so far!

                      pfSense i5-4590
                      940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
                      BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
                      Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                        Paint
                        last edited by

                        @ddarlington36:

                        What's the CPU usage like during the tests?  Is that test anything like iperf or dose it simulate the openvpn throughput/bandwidth.  Pretty impressive results !! I'm sold

                        CPU is almost non existent (less than .1-.2 on the 1min top) I will provide a more detailed update once I finish my firewall/traffic shaping/snort/country blocking setup.

                        I still need to do an iperf test, but I believe I will get very close to 1gbps over my LAN. Therefore, CPU is your bottleneck when using VPN. The previous test shows how fast your CPU can encrypt information and backs into a mbps theoretical max.

                        pfSense i5-4590
                        940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
                        BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
                        Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                          Guest
                          last edited by

                          Thanks mate!
                          Now I know that I have to find my way in this cpu's class

                          If you are unsure, money is not the real problem for you and you will be having much throughput in the WAN
                          and LAN area or high throughput over any VPN tunnel, go and buy a Intel Xeon E3-1240v3 and 8 GB DDR3
                          1600MHz RAM and you will be getting out the maximum of all! Not cheap, but very effective in any kind of.
                          You can also save money over a longer time or get parts refurbished!

                          I still need to do an iperf test, but I believe I will get very close to 1gbps over my LAN. Therefore, CPU is your bottleneck when using VPN. The previous test shows how fast your CPU can encrypt information and backs into a mbps theoretical max.

                          Set up at the LAN interface a subnet likes 192.168.xx and on the other LAN interface another one likes
                          172.xx.xx and then iPerf client to server test, you can repeat it through the WAN interface by setting up there
                          a small GB switch and set up outside the AN interface the iPerf server.

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                            Paint
                            last edited by

                            @BlueKobold:

                            Thanks mate!
                            Now I know that I have to find my way in this cpu's class

                            If you are unsure, money is not the real problem for you and you will be having much throughput in the WAN
                            and LAN area or high throughput over any VPN tunnel, go and buy a Intel Xeon E3-1240v3 and 8 GB DDR3
                            1600MHz RAM and you will be getting out the maximum of all! Not cheap, but very effective in any kind of.
                            You can also save money over a longer time or get parts refurbished!

                            I still need to do an iperf test, but I believe I will get very close to 1gbps over my LAN. Therefore, CPU is your bottleneck when using VPN. The previous test shows how fast your CPU can encrypt information and backs into a mbps theoretical max.

                            Set up at the LAN interface a subnet likes 192.168.xx and on the other LAN interface another one likes
                            172.xx.xx and then iPerf client to server test, you can repeat it through the WAN interface by setting up there
                            a small GB switch and set up outside the AN interface the iPerf server.

                            ill do a few different tests for iperf in the next few days. I already have my DHCP server cloning my G1100 MAC and DHCP request so that I can run the FIOS MoCA G1100 Quantum Router in parallel to my pfSense box - this eliminates a double NAT situation, allows me to use my own router, and keep all of the FIOS services (Remote DVR, VoD, CallerID, etc) without the need for my backend "three router" setup.

                            To setup a new vlan to test a fake WAN will be a piece of cake after that  :P

                            This whole setup only cost me $400 USD + $30 USD for a Dell PowerConnect 2716 Managed Switch from eBay. For the price, I dont think it can be beat!

                            pfSense i5-4590
                            940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
                            BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
                            Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                              aGeekhere
                              last edited by

                              What speed do you get from the squid cache?
                              Download a file
                              Test files here
                              http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/test/
                              Then once it is downloaded try redownloading and check the speed from the squid cache

                              Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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                                Paint
                                last edited by

                                @aGeekHere:

                                What speed do you get from the squid cache?
                                Download a file
                                Test files here
                                http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/test/
                                Then once it is downloaded try redownloading and check the speed from the squid cache

                                http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/test/ this link does not work….

                                pfSense i5-4590
                                940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
                                BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
                                Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                                  asterix
                                  last edited by

                                  Use this for enabling TRIM.

                                  https://gist.github.com/mdouchement/853fbd4185743689f58c

                                  You don't need to do enable AHCI by adding ahci_load="YES" … it works for me without this.

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                                    aGeekhere
                                    last edited by

                                    this link does not work….

                                    Must be location blocked, try a Ubuntu iso or any large file that will cached.

                                    Never Fear, A Geek is Here!

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                                      Paint
                                      last edited by

                                      @Asterix:

                                      Use this for enabling TRIM.

                                      https://gist.github.com/mdouchement/853fbd4185743689f58c

                                      You don't need to do enable AHCI by adding ahci_load="YES" … it works for me without this.

                                      thanks. that worked:

                                      [2.3.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.lan]/root: tunefs -p /
                                      tunefs: POSIX.1e ACLs: (-a)                                disabled
                                      tunefs: NFSv4 ACLs: (-N)                                   disabled
                                      tunefs: MAC multilabel: (-l)                               disabled
                                      tunefs: soft updates: (-n)                                 enabled
                                      tunefs: soft update journaling: (-j)                       enabled
                                      tunefs: gjournal: (-J)                                     disabled
                                      tunefs: trim: (-t)                                         enabled
                                      tunefs: maximum blocks per file in a cylinder group: (-e)  4096
                                      tunefs: average file size: (-f)                            16384
                                      tunefs: average number of files in a directory: (-s)       64
                                      tunefs: minimum percentage of free space: (-m)             8%
                                      tunefs: space to hold for metadata blocks: (-k)            6408
                                      tunefs: optimization preference: (-o)                      time
                                      tunefs: volume label: (-L)
                                      

                                      migrated my entire network over to pfsense as the main router with two AP running DDWRT. I have done a lot of tweaking, but will finalize some stuff over the weekend. I hope to then post some performance benchmarks.

                                      Next on to snort and traffic shaping  8) 8) 8)

                                      pfSense i5-4590
                                      940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
                                      BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
                                      Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                                        Guest
                                        last edited by

                                        You don't need to do enable AHCI by adding ahci_load="YES" … it works for me without this.

                                        I must consider to this, I would recommend to shorten this line in the boot/loader.conf.local file, it is not
                                        really needed for your pfSense machine.

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                                          Paint
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                                          @BlueKobold:

                                          You don't need to do enable AHCI by adding ahci_load="YES" … it works for me without this.

                                          I must consider to this, I would recommend to shorten this line in the boot/loader.conf.local file, it is not
                                          really needed for your pfSense machine.

                                          I dont use ahci_load="YES" in my /boot/loader.conf.local file.

                                          I have made many System Tunable changes and loader.conf.local changes. Below are my /boot/loader.conf.local changes:

                                          
                                          legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1
                                          legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1
                                          aio_load="YES"
                                          pf_load="YES"
                                          pflog_load="YES
                                          if_em_load="YES"
                                          hw.em.rxd=4096
                                          hw.em.txd=4096
                                          #ahci_load="YES"
                                          cc_htcp_load="YES"
                                          net.inet.tcp.hostcache.cachelimit="0"
                                          hw.em.num_queues="2"
                                          kern.ipc.nmbclusters="1000000"
                                          

                                          pfSense i5-4590
                                          940/880 mbit Fiber Internet from FiOS
                                          BROCADE ICX6450 48Port L3-Managed Switch w/4x 10GB ports
                                          Netgear R8000 AP (DD-WRT)

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                                            asterix
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                                            Why do u need traffic shaping on a 100MBit line?

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