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    • D Offline
      d4t4str34m
      last edited by

      Here are some notes that I took while poking around trying to figure something out:

      Interface status on WAN
      In out error 0/39
      Collisions 2499

      Pinging by name from firewall diagnostic but not from laptop.

      What is the best way to get the lan and firewall rules configurations off the firewall and uploaded here?

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      • johnpozJ Offline
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by

        simple screenshot..

        example

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          d4t4str34m
          last edited by

          Lol, easy enough. Should be attached below.

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          • KOMK Offline
            KOM
            last edited by

            Those 5 rules you added are useless since all traffic is handled by the Default Allow LAN to Any rules at the bottom.  Nothing in your rules should be interfering with LAN traffic since they're all allow rules.  A default install of pfSense blocks all from WAN and blocks nothing from LAN, so your LAN clients should literally be able to do anything.  Can you post a screen of System - General Setup?

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              d4t4str34m
              last edited by

              I want to lock it down so I will disable the default allow rule. I want to get it working first though before I mess around with that.

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              • KOMK Offline
                KOM
                last edited by

                I want to lock it down so I will disable the default allow rule. I want to get it working first though before I mess around with that.

                That's actually the opposite of how you should work on this.  Keep the default Allow All on LAN rules.  Get rid of your custom rules.  Get everything working that you need to get working, then start locking down if that's what you need to do.  Unless you're living with criminals, locking down LAN can be a real exercise in pain.

                When I try those DNS servers you have listed, they both fail to resolve anything for me but this might be a security issue.  What happens if you replace them with 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4?  Are you using the pfSense DNS Resolver or Forwarder?

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                  deajan
                  last edited by

                  Yep, google dns (8.8.8.4 & 8.8.4.4) or opendns (208.67.222.123 & 208.67.220.123).
                  Also, affect those DNS to a gateway.

                  Connect to your pfSense box via ssh and try

                  
nslookup www.google.com

                  What's the output ?

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                    d4t4str34m
                    last edited by

                    I have tried with DNS forwarder enabled and disabled. Results from nslookup using both sets of DNS numbers is below. I also used the ping utility on pfsense and that is below as well. It hits outside IP addresses fine but the only name it hit was google.com. Wouldn't get a reply from cnn.com. I have also attached a screenshot of some of my firewall log.

                    Server: 207.28.65.6
                    Address: 207.28.65.6#53

                    Non-authoritative answer:
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.176
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.166
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.154
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.177
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.163
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.170
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.165
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.144
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.181
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.148
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.185
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.152
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.174
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.187
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.159
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.155

                    Server: 8.8.8.8
                    Address: 8.8.8.8#53

                    Non-authoritative answer:
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.185
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.155
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.166
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.165
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.170
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.177
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.144
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.148
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.187
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.174
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.176
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.159
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.163
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.154
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.152
                    Name: www.google.com
                    Address: 209.56.124.181

                    PING google.com (209.56.124.159): 56 data bytes
                    64 bytes from 209.56.124.159: icmp_seq=0 ttl=61 time=8.028 ms
                    64 bytes from 209.56.124.159: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=7.957 ms
                    64 bytes from 209.56.124.159: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=8.001 ms

                    –- google.com ping statistics ---
                    3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
                    round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 7.957/7.995/8.028/0.029 ms

                    PING cnn.com (157.166.226.26): 56 data bytes

                    --- cnn.com ping statistics ---
                    3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

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                    • KOMK Offline
                      KOM
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                      I was asking if you could replace your DNS servers in System - General Setup with the Google ones.

                      I have tried with DNS forwarder enabled and disabled.

                      pfSense has two built-in DNS services.  I was asking which one you are using.  You shouldn't use both simultaneously.  If you are using DNS Forwarder only and you turn it off then you have no DNS at all.

                      Here is what I would do:

                      • Disable DNS Forwarder.

                      • Enable DNS Resolver.

                      • Check the DNS Query Forwarding checkbox under Services - DNS Resolver - General settings.

                      • Replace your DNS servers under System - General Setup - DNS Server Settings with Google 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

                      • Save & test.

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                      • johnpozJ Offline
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        is this pfsense virtual?

                        Your blocks are OUT of state blocks.. not blocking of syn packets..  Do you have asymmetrical routing issue.  How are you clients connect to pfsense.. And they use pfsense as their only gateway right??

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                          d4t4str34m
                          last edited by

                          Here is what I would do:
                          Disable DNS Forwarder.
                          Enable DNS Resolver.
                          Check the DNS Query Forwarding checkbox under Services - DNS Resolver - General settings.
                          Replace your DNS servers under System - General Setup - DNS Server Settings with Google 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.
                          Save & test.

                          Tried the DNS resolver and it didn't work. I have changed the dns numbers in the general setup and that didn't work.

                          is this pfsense virtual?

                          Your blocks are OUT of state blocks.. not blocking of syn packets..  Do you have asymmetrical routing issue.  How are you clients connect to pfsense.. And they use pfsense as their only gateway right??

                          It is the pfsense appliance. It is not virtual. The pfsense box is the only gateway. As soon as I unplug pfsense and hook up the old cipa firewall everything works. It has the dns numbers in it that I have given you.

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                            d4t4str34m
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                            For some reason when I plug my pfsense box in, it is doing something to my dns server. I have to manually put a dns address into client machine settings to get dns working and get them on the internet. Machines are getting ip settings properly from my dhcp server but the dns is not working. The dhcp and dns reside on the same server.

                            I just noticed that pfsense works as a dns fine if I put that in my dhcp server to hand out.

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                              phil.davis
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                              I just noticed that pfsense works as a dns fine if I put that in my dhcp server to hand out

                              Well then, pfSense is good.
                              If you have an internal DNS server, and the gateway address of your pfSense LAN side is not the same as the LAN side gateway address of the previous router, then you will have to tell that internal DNS server what is the new way to get to the internet (and thus to resolve external DNS). Once that is working, then your internal DHCP server should be able to give out the internal DNS server IP, and the internal DNS server will successfully lookup all names.

                              (I am guessing a bit about what exactly you have on your internal network and how it all talked before putting pfSense in place)

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                                d4t4str34m
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                                If you have an internal DNS server, and the gateway address of your pfSense LAN side is not the same as the LAN side gateway address of the previous router, then you will have to tell that internal DNS server what is the new way to get to the internet (and thus to resolve external DNS).

                                I have it all set up with the same addresses as the last firewall so nothing should have changed. I had a rule for tcp/udp port 53 open for all and I figured that would allow my internal DNS to get DNS info from the net. I disabled all my rules to try and figure out what the issue was. I will start re-enabling them tomorrow and see if I can figure out what is causing the problem.

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                                  d4t4str34m
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                                  So now the issue is my internal DNS server is not getting out. I can ping the IP of the firewall, LAN IP and WAN IP. I cannot ping the WAN gateway IP. I can from the other machines on the network. I cannot figure out why the Mac OD servers are having so many issues.

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                                    tim.mcmanus
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                                    @d4t4str34m:

                                    So now the issue is my internal DNS server is not getting out. I can ping the IP of the firewall, LAN IP and WAN IP. I cannot ping the WAN gateway IP. I can from the other machines on the network. I cannot figure out why the Mac OD servers are having so many issues.

                                    Are you running MacOS X Server and using that as a DNS server?

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                                      d4t4str34m
                                      last edited by

                                      Are you running MacOS X Server and using that as a DNS server?

                                      Yes. I ended up adding those machines into the host over ride in the DNS Resolver of pfsense. Now my machines can find the OD server for their accounts while on the network. I am still trying to figure out why it can't get out on the internet.

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                                        tim.mcmanus
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                                        @d4t4str34m:

                                        Are you running MacOS X Server and using that as a DNS server?

                                        Yes. I ended up adding those machines into the host over ride in the DNS Resolver of pfsense. Now my machines can find the OD server for their accounts while on the network. I am still trying to figure out why it can't get out on the internet.

                                        I have a lot of experience with Mac OS X Server.  What's probably happening is that it's making IPv6 DNS queries.  I've complained to Apple engineers that it should do both IPv4 and IPv6, preferably using IPv4 as a default.  But they told me that's the way it's supposed to work.

                                        Check your DNS logs on Mac OS X Server and you should see a lot of these:

                                        24-Jun-2016 00:12:32.030 error (host unreachable) resolving 'ns-1272.awsdns-31.org/A/IN': 2001:500:40::1#53
24-Jun-2016 00:12:32.030 error (host unreachable) resolving 'ns-1272.awsdns-31.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:500:40::1#53
24-Jun-2016 00:12:32.030 error (host unreachable) resolving 'ns-1272.awsdns-31.org/A/IN': 2001:500:f::1#53
24-Jun-2016 00:12:32.030 error (host unreachable) resolving 'ns-1272.awsdns-31.org/AAAA/IN': 2001:500:f::1#53

                                        That's OS X Server trying to do IPv6 lookups and failing.  My ISP doesn't use IPv6, so I had to force OS X Server to do IPv4 lookups, which resolved the issue.

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                                          d4t4str34m
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                                          I don't think that is it. For some reason I can ping all the way through pfsense (LAN and WAN) by ip address from those apple servers but I can't ping the gateway for my WAN. If I plug in the old firewall everything works fine. If I run a traceroute from the apple server to the WAN gateway IP of pfsense, I get a hop from my LAN gateway number and then it stops. It seems to get hung up in the firewall.

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                                            d4t4str34m
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                                            I am going to change my DHCP service from the problematic apple server to pfsense. The only issue is that I have a lot of static assignments so I wanted to do an export from the apple server and then import into pfsense. I have exported settings to a plist file and then used the plutil command to convert to xml. I have also tried running sudo serveradmin settings dhcp >/path/to/file.txt. I then opened the text file created in excel and save it as an xml.

                                            I keep getting an error when importing the xml file in pfsense. The error says "An area to restore was selected but the correct xml tag could not be located." Is there something that needs to be in the xml file to make this work?

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