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    Getting Old Traffic Data Back After Upgrade

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    • B Offline
      bigjess007
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      I was on 2.2.6 and used the RRD Graphs to monitor traffic by day/week/month pretty constantly.  I just made the (possibly huge mistake) of upgrading from 2.2.6 to 2.3.2 and finding surprise, that function's gone.  Maybe I missed it somewhere in reading about upgrading, but I'm not sure why it wasn't called out in HUGE text.  Upon searching the forums seems tons and tons of folks are upset about it (understandably).

      So here I am.  I did a full backup before I upgraded and I see it in root.  I'm trying to decide what to do now, go back to 2.2.6 or stay where I am.

      I see in status > RRD Summary that there is current and previous months data.  So I'm assuming that the system is still counting the data and can access my old data.

      Is there a way for me to manually access the data and get the totals based on what I want?  I'm guessing there would be as the RRD Summary page is able to tally the previous month.

      Otherwise I'm going to have no choice but to roll back and I need to do it soon otherwise I'm going to loose the current traffic data on 2.3.2 when I go back and restore the backup.

      Thank you.

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        dneuhaeuser
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        you could try the "vnstat" package for traffic monitoring.
        but I don't know if it will recognize your historical data…

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          bigjess007
          last edited by

          @dneuhaeuser:

          you could try the "vnstat" package for traffic monitoring.
          but I don't know if it will recognize your historical data…

          I read the vnstat thread, but it's not released yet to the stable branch, and I'm not switching to the development branch to get it.

          And if when it is released to the stable branch it doesn't read and graph the historical data, it's pretty much wortheless to me.  So I hope it will but I can't find an answer on that.

          Is there no documentation or a tool that can parse the RRD data if I exported it?  Theoretically there has to be because there's code in 2.3.2 that is reading this and last month.  And can anyone confirm that the RRD data is still being added to (seems to be)?

          I can kinda understand removing the graphs as they needed all those dependencies.  But again, where was the freaking warning.  And why isn't there the option in RRD Summary to atleast let you have it tell you data totals based on date range, etc.  I fail to understand why they couldn't leave that part and just not have it graph it.  Graphs would have been great but atleast if I had the ability to choose a date range I could have figured it out myself.  Heck I could have done it manually in excel.

          Extremely unhappy this wasn't made prevalent in the upgrade notes.  I know I'm not the only one by the posts about this that is really upset about this.  I know there are arguments that it wasn't that accurate of data, but that wasn't the case for me.  It was accurate within just a few megs.

          Rolling back is going to be a gigantic pain in the butt cause I have to go get the physical computer to do it.  More frustrations.

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          • jdillardJ Offline
            jdillard
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            You'll have to use the Traffic Totals package moving forward and a 3rd party RRD reader, like an NMS, for past totals.

            You can select date range in Status > Monitoring and export to CSV and total there, but due to the way the data is stored in RRD the accuracy varies.

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              JasonJoel
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              @bigjess007:

              Extremely unhappy this wasn't made prevalent in the upgrade notes.  I know I'm not the only one by the posts about this that is really upset about this.  I know there are arguments that it wasn't that accurate of data, but that wasn't the case for me.  It was accurate within just a few megs.

              Come on, man. It was in the release notes - read them!!

              EVERY change / feature is important to SOMEONE… So by your logic they should make EVERY change 'prevalent' in the release notes (which is the same as making none of them prevalent...)?

              I understand you aren't happy about the change, but it was NOT a secret so don't insinuate such...

              Jason

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                bigjess007
                last edited by

                @jdillard:

                You'll have to use the Traffic Totals package moving forward and a 3rd party RRD reader, like an NMS, for past totals.

                You can select date range in Status > Monitoring and export to CSV and total there, but due to the way the data is stored in RRD the accuracy varies.

                I ended up finding the traffic totals package, and it is working going forward.

                I researched reading the RRD files manually and that's way over my head.  Doesn't appear to be an easy way to do that.

                So I used your tip and just exported the data to CSV and imported it in to Excel which I was able to manipulate way easier.  Thanks for that!!

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